Feral Oneiric wrote:
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He tells me to find something else to live for.
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Kayelless addressed this very point in the post immediately above yours.  Live for yourself.

Kayelless wrote:
how you doin' tonight, Guy?

Doing good.  My major issue is figuring out how to get a job, now that I've decided to abandon my one highly marketable skill (computer programming).  I've basically chosen three paths to starvation: I can be a fine-art photographer, I can be a writer, or I can be an actor.

Supposedly I have a genius-level IQ.  Brings home the point that IQ doesn't mean much.

How are you?

Lawrence Guy wrote:

Doing good.  My major issue is figuring out how to get a job, now that I've decided to abandon my one highly marketable skill (computer programming).  I've basically chosen three paths to starvation: I can be a fine-art photographer, I can be a writer, or I can be an actor.

Supposedly I have a genius-level IQ.  Brings home the point that IQ doesn't mean much.

How are you?

nice path to starvation.... send us post cards, eh?

Lawrence Guy wrote:
Doing good.  My major issue is figuring out how to get a job, now that I've decided to abandon my one highly marketable skill (computer programming).  I've basically chosen three paths to starvation: I can be a fine-art photographer, I can be a writer, or I can be an actor.

Supposedly I have a genius-level IQ.  Brings home the point that IQ doesn't mean much.

How are you?

As someone who has myself considered abandoning my marketable computer-programming skills and choosing a path to starvation, I must ask:

Why have you decided to abandon those marketable skills?

Monad Studios wrote:

As someone who has myself considered abandoning my marketable computer-programming skills and choosing a path to starvation, I must ask:

Why have you decided to abandon those marketable skills?

seriously. I'm trying to gain them.
Wanna trade, Guy?

Lovely Laurie wrote:

I know how you feel. But I finally went to the doctor today and told them and they rushed me to a therapist.  I have to go back to get evaluated to see what drugs I should take. Are you on meds? Do you see a therapist?

how are you doing?

SPierce Photography wrote:
Good Morning everyone

Morning!

Monad Studios wrote:
As someone who has myself considered abandoning my marketable computer-programming skills and choosing a path to starvation, I must ask:

Why have you decided to abandon those marketable skills?

I have come to despise the work.  It is a lonely, soulless job, plagued by managers who don't understand Murphy's Law, if it ain't broke don't fix it, GIGO, KISS, and other basic tenets of engineering.  It is being overrun by new supposedly "improved" technologies that are resource hogs and impose inadequate API's and flawed programming paradigms on the developer.  It is a festering wasteland populated by wet-behind-the-ears college graduates who think they know more about programming than experienced professionals, and who are better suited for working in an Object-Oriented spaghetti factory.  It rarely provides an opportunity to innovate, since innovation is too expensive.  We are often forced to integrate with buggy, badly-designed and poorly-documented third-party libraries that can't actually handle production environments.  Lifecycle management is driven by customer whim instead of rational design decisions.  Features are requested that bypass security and reliability of software, but "must" be added because the customer wants them.

In short, it's the antithesis of rational design, and I couldn't take it anymore.

Give me C++ on UNIX with an intelligent, non-delusional, non-paranoid boss and I *might* be happy.  But with the direction the industry is going, I see the chances of that dwindling.

Guy

P.S.  I'm sure some of you will disagree with some of what I have said.  This has been my experience after 9 years as a professional programmer.  I'm not interested in debating it.  Other companies might not have the same problems I described, but they have problems nonetheless.

Kayelless wrote:

Morning!

How you doing this am?

Lawrence Guy wrote:
Gah.  Having said all that stuff in my previous post, I just applied for a job at Google.  I don't know if I want anyone to wish me luck or not.

*confused*

I'm going to hire you as my official mentor....

SPierce Photography wrote:

How you doing this am?

Editing images and listening to Sade. I'm doin' good.

Lawrence Guy wrote:
Gah.  Having said all that stuff in my previous post, I just applied for a job at Google.  I don't know if I want anyone to wish me luck or not.

*confused*

Good luck! Heres hoping that no matter what you are doing, you find a fun company and a wonderful boss to work with

Lawrence Guy wrote:

I have come to despise the work.  It is a lonely, soulless job, plagued by managers who don't understand Murphy's Law, if it ain't broke don't fix it, GIGO, KISS, and other basic tenets of engineering.  It is being overrun by new supposedly "improved" technologies that are resource hogs and impose inadequate API's and flawed programming paradigms on the developer.  It is a festering wasteland populated by wet-behind-the-ears college graduates who think they know more about programming than experienced professionals, and who are better suited for working in an Object-Oriented spaghetti factory.  It rarely provides an opportunity to innovate, since innovation is too expensive.  We are often forced to integrate with buggy, badly-designed and poorly-documented third-party libraries that can't actually handle production environments.  Lifecycle management is driven by customer whim instead of rational design decisions.  Features are requested that bypass security and reliability of software, but "must" be added because the customer wants them.

In short, it's the antithesis of rational design, and I couldn't take it anymore.

Give me C++ on UNIX with an intelligent, non-delusional, non-paranoid boss and I *might* be happy.  But with the direction the industry is going, I see the chances of that dwindling.

Guy

P.S.  I'm sure some of you will disagree with some of what I have said.  This has been my experience after 9 years as a professional programmer.  I'm not interested in debating it.  Other companies might not have the same problems I described, but they have problems nonetheless.

I loved the old C, C++ programming on *nix systems. It was so simple. So easy to streamline. Now, as you said. we're being forced to use "prefabbed code" to implement complex tasks that it wasn't designed to handle. At least not efficiently.

I'm with ya on all this. Best of luck with whatever it is you do. When I was doing it, I did it as a volunteer for non-profit organizations and they were happy to just let me do my thing as long as it did their thing. No income for me other than satisfaction. I did realize then that I wouldn't want to do it for a paying job.

Kayelless wrote:
I'm going to hire you as my official mentor....

How much does the job pay?  What are the hours?  Do you expect results?  If so, do you expect good results?

Lawrence Guy wrote:

How much does the job pay?  What are the hours?  Do you expect results?  If so, do you expect good results?

peace of mind. 24/7 on call. in 15 days or my money back. only on good days.
When can you start?

Kayelless wrote:

Editing images and listening to Sade. I'm doin' good.

sweet! im editing too

SPierce Photography wrote:

sweet! im editing too

I just got back from therapist visit. Finished my turkey baked potato, and now I'm gonna try and get one more image in before nap time.

Kayelless wrote:

I just got back from therapist visit. Finished my turkey baked potato, and now I'm gonna try and get one more image in before nap time.

Hey Kevin, when you get back on, please check the thread you started for me.
https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=410646

Spark-Star Graphics wrote:
No joke here but when i saw the title i thought this was a joke

Nope. Not a joke.  Just some artists trying to look out for one another.

Willie Sheldon wrote:
http://www.photographictherapy.com/

Here is a website for those of us in the community that use photography to get feelings out, help those in need.

Thanks!
Bookmarked

Willie Sheldon wrote:
http://www.photographictherapy.com/

Here is a website for those of us in the community that use photography to get feelings out, help those in need.

Thank you.

Kayelless wrote:

Editing images and listening to Sade. I'm doin' good.

That reminds me ....

SPierce Photography wrote:
I got reject notices from all the jobs i applied  for so i'm screwed again

just means those weren't the doors that were opened.
even in the darkest of nights the earth is still turning which means a new day is still coming.  With each new day comes a new opportunity of life.

It is frustrating walking down a long hallway trying to find the right door, but one that is open will find you even as you find it.... but the greatest is that door is meant for you to open.

Kayelless wrote:
just means those weren't the doors that were opened.
even in the darkest of nights the earth is still turning which means a new day is still coming.  With each new day comes a new opportunity of life.

It is frustrating walking down a long hallway trying to find the right door, but one that is open will find you even as you find it.... but the greatest is that door is meant for you to open.

ive got to have something before march 1st i dont really have any choice i HAVE  to find something

and god i hope so. im ready to give up on doing photography as a career

SPierce Photography wrote:

ive got to have something before march 1st i dont really have any choice i HAVE  to find something

trust me I understand what you are saying. I've been on the negative for over a year... feel like I'm trying to climb a mudslide (created by my own rain storm), but the first step is knowing I will make it no matter what.

Kayelless wrote:

trust me I understand what you are saying. I've been on the negative for over a year... feel like I'm trying to climb a mudslide (created by my own rain storm), but the first step is knowing I will make it no matter what.

I'mtrying to stay positive and all that, but i'm not as worried about me as I am about two models I booked (and will be paying) at the end of March. I need to make sure that, no matter what, I have enough for them, but right now it's really hard. I just want to get back on my feet again and show that I really can make it on my own! I have to buy groceries, etc. A job doesn't seem to be panning out... i'm finally going to suck it up and go to the unemployment office on Tuesday, but that won't pay the rent-- or the groceries, or anything aside from that.

SPierce Photography wrote:

I'mtrying to stay positive and all that, but i'm not as worried about me as I am about two models I booked (and will be paying) at the end of March. I need to make sure that, no matter what, I have enough for them, but right now it's really hard. I just want to get back on my feet again and show that I really can make it on my own! I have to buy groceries, etc. A job doesn't seem to be panning out... i'm finally going to suck it up and go to the unemployment office on Tuesday, but that won't pay the rent-- or the groceries, or anything aside from that.

just don't give in to despair. *huggs*

Kayelless wrote:

just don't give in to despair. *huggs*

*hugs* I just feel so hopeless and useless!

SPierce Photography wrote:

*hugs* I just feel so hopeless and useless!

I believe everyone has a purpose or reason for being in this world. Part of what got me through my darkest days was holding onto that belief in myself even though I couldn't feel it.  I just refuse to see myself as down, now.  I believe I will always get up.

I put you in my prayer a while back which means I only expect to see you rise despite all that stands before you.  I believe this to be true as simple as I'm typing these words.  Believe it and you will.

SPierce Photography wrote:

*hugs* I just feel so hopeless and useless!

Ahh don't feel like that I had a really rough night myself last night this thread really helped. I know the feeling *hugs* from me too you'll be ok things will get better.

Kayelless wrote:

SPierce Photography wrote:
*hugs* I just feel so hopeless and useless!

I believe everyone has a purpose or reason for being in this world. Part of what got me through my darkest days was holding onto that belief in myself even though I couldn't feel it.  I just refuse to see myself as down, now.  I believe I will always get up.

I put you in my prayer a while back which means I only expect to see you rise despite all that stands before you.  I believe this to be true as simple as I'm typing these words.  Believe it and you will.

Thanks dude! *hug* I had a really great shoot today, so i'm trying to immerse myself in editing and working on her shots. Brand new model, isn't on MM yet but hopefully will be soon!

BC photos wrote:

Ahh don't feel like that I had a really rough night myself last night this thread really helped. I know the feeling *hugs* from me too you'll be ok things will get better.

Thank you! *hug*

SPierce Photography wrote:
ive got to have something before march 1st i dont really have any choice i HAVE  to find something

and god i hope so. im ready to give up on doing photography as a career

SPierce Photography wrote:
I'mtrying to stay positive and all that, but i'm not as worried about me as I am about two models I booked (and will be paying) at the end of March. I need to make sure that, no matter what, I have enough for them, but right now it's really hard. I just want to get back on my feet again and show that I really can make it on my own! I have to buy groceries, etc. A job doesn't seem to be panning out... i'm finally going to suck it up and go to the unemployment office on Tuesday, but that won't pay the rent-- or the groceries, or anything aside from that.

SPierce Photography wrote:
*hugs* I just feel so hopeless and useless!

SPierce Photography wrote:
Thanks dude! *hug* I had a really great shoot today, so i'm trying to immerse myself in editing and working on her shots. Brand new model, isn't on MM yet but hopefully will be soon!

SPierce Photography wrote:
Thank you! *hug*

Remember what we talked about.