Miss Shanna Banana wrote:
no i actually wasnt talking about you. i was refering to envy and a few other people

What did I say that was false?

I fail to see how I'm a hypocrite. I have no problems finding photographers to shoot with me.

Carlos Arturo Velarde wrote:
Apparently since we didn't stroke her ego, we are hipocrites with no good advice... who knew???!?!

actually i wasnt talking about you, i was referring to the people who turned the thread into a thrash on me about how i wont pay photographers. i don't have money jeez so let it go. and move on people damn

Envy wrote:

What did I say that was false?

here I don't know, why do you make it your time to go into forums just to dump on other models?

AdamtheJohnson wrote:
You have a wonderful attitude, and beautiful tits! I love your tattoo, can we shoot sometime? I'll give you full copyright for free and you can 'sparkle' the nipples out for MySpace all you want!







That better?

no you guys are misunderstanding, envy you rock, your hot. i don't hate you
i don't hate any of you.
seriously
just i wanted to get some offers. i didn't plan on a bunch of people thrashing, i mean i knew it would happen lol but this has just gotten out of hand
i didn't mean to offend anyone. im sorry. lets just all stop arguing. its silly.

Miss Shanna Banana wrote:

here I don't know, why do you make it your time to go into forums just to dump on other models?

My comment was valid. You were rude and obnoxious , I'm not the only one that remembers you. Apparently you haven't changed.

Miss Shanna Banana wrote:

actually i wasnt talking about you, i was referring to the people who turned the thread into a thrash on me about how i wont pay photographers. i don't have money jeez so let it go. and move on people damn

Well Envy actually knows what she's talking about and believe it or not some of us know a thing or two about the world of fetish...and you should meet Xanthia for she is a doll and a joy to work with which is why so many of us shoot her. There is a ton to learn here if you listen.

Miss Shanna Banana wrote:
here I don't know, why do you make it your time to go into forums just to dump on other models?

Edited to be nice.

Collin J. Rae wrote:

Well Envy actually knows what she's talking about and believe it or not some of us know a thing or two about the world of fetish...and you should meet Xanthia for she is a doll and a joy to work with which is why so many of us shoot her. There is a ton to learn here if you listen.

im trying but eveytime i kinda try to post something everyone just has to come back with things that are hardcore. all i wanted was some advice on what im doing wrong. some things i could do, instead of what a shitty person i am and stuff for asking a question

Miss Shanna Banana wrote:

im trying but eveytime i kinda try to post something everyone just has to come back with things that are hardcore. all i wanted was some advice on what im doing wrong. some things i could do, instead of what a shitty person i am and stuff for asking a question

Well, in this case, they are one andthe same.,

Miss Shanna Banana wrote:
im trying but eveytime i kinda try to post something everyone just has to come back with things that are hardcore. all i wanted was some advice on what im doing wrong. some things i could do, instead of what a shitty person i am and stuff for asking a question

Miss Shanna Banana wrote:
im not sure what you mean. i defiantly need alot of advice. but as far as thrashing me and shit because i can't afford to pay people and stuff like that, its ridiculous.
i kinda wish envy didn't hate my guts though because she rocks. and you photographers rock. cept you hate me too but i'll get over it. i have plenty of cheesecake

We dont hate you. WE dont like your 'tude though. You've just put yourself on a high pedestal, and you only have one shoot under your belt.

Miss Shanna Banana wrote:
I can never get those awesome photographers to work with me. They just wont give me the time of day, am I doing something wrong with my looks or poses, what is it?

I don't know if I qualify as awsome but I'd love to shot with you. Ever get down to Austin, look me up.

David

DavidsStudio wrote:

I don't know if I qualify as awsome but I'd love to shot with you. Ever get down to Austin, look me up.

David

yeah I'm planning on moving there next year actually

Miss Shanna Banana wrote:
im not sure what you mean. i defiantly need alot of advice. but as far as thrashing me and shit because i can't afford to pay people and stuff like that, its ridiculous.
i kinda wish envy didn't hate my guts though because she rocks. and you photographers rock. cept you hate me too but i'll get over it. i have plenty of cheesecake

I don't hate you. Why does every model here feel I hate them? I just choose to distance myself from drama queens and attention whores. I'm not saying you are one or the other. Ok, maybe a little of both. BUT I honestly believe if you saw the way were are presenting yourself right now, you would understand why no one wants to help you any further.

Envy wrote:

I don't hate you. Why does every model here feel I hate them? I just choose to distance myself from drama queens and attention whores. I'm not saying you are one or the other. Ok, maybe a little of both. BUT I honestly believe if you saw the way were are presenting yourself right now, you would understand why no one wants to help you any further.

WEll I know I love you. Youre in my 12.

AdamtheJohnson wrote:

WEll I know I love you. Youre in my 12.

*sniff*

You rock.

Envy wrote:

AdamtheJohnson wrote:
WEll I know I love you. Youre in my 12.*sniff*

Envy wrote:
You rock.

Dr Molly Black wrote:
This is totally a "he said, she said" situation, but I happen to know that somebody wanted to help this model set up a site and she blew off him driving all the way from Austin to her area to shoot her.

He doesn't take part in the forums and thus wouldn't see this, but honestly, for a very pretty girl, who could do great alternative work, you're expecting a LOT that isn't part of the way the real world works.

You got a LOT of good advice on what you might want to do if you want to actually succeed as an alternative model, but you became aggro and dissed the very people who wanted to help.

I would have shot you, happily, though I doubt I could have shot you half as well as the friend who originally shot you. Good luck with your future endeavors (and yes, I mean that) and try to listen to the people who have advice for you. Not everybody is out to get you. Some people just want to give you good advice.

Like I had already stated, she's fishing.

Envy wrote:

*sniff*

You rock.

AdamtheJohnson wrote:
And you know why? Your ATTITUDE. I've never even shot you, but it comes through.

Ransom J wrote:
Yeah Envy rocks pretty frickin hard.

Flattery gets you everywhere. *-*

Get out and post in the forums.  Make announcements on the front page as often as it will let you.  Go search the casting call forum to find out if there is anything in your area.  Be sure to search through roughly page 10, those things move quickly.  Search for photographers in your area that have a picture quality that you admire.  Complement them on it.  If you have family or friends in another large city do some research and see if there are photographers there.  Take a visit and stay with friends to cut costs.

If you put effort into networking, this site can be an excellent tool.

If you behaved poorly here before, then yeah, you will probably want to spend some time trying to cultivate a more calm, professional reputation.  Rebuild those bridges.  If travel is rarely an option, nothing will hurt your chances to work more than local gossip.  Seriously.

Ultimately, though, if photographers you want to shoot with are unwilling to do TFP with you, you may want to consider paying them.

Otherwise, be ready to do a lot of legwork finding the talented hobbyists and beginners who are looking for TFP themselves.

You need to figure out exactly what you want out of this whole thing, and whether or not those are reasonable goal(s).  I don't do adult work or promotional modelling/hostessing (and I'm an inch shorter than you, for reference), so I realized fairly early that modelling is not a viable career choice for me.

And as a hobby, modelling can be very expensive and effort/time-consuming!

If you're willing to work with that, it can be quite fun and rewarding.  It all depends on what you're trying to do.

Shanna wrote:
I can never get those awesome photographers to work with me. They just wont give me the time of day, am I doing something wrong with my looks or poses, what is it?

You're not gross looking or anything. It just that you live in the wrong state.

Shanna wrote:
I can never get those awesome photographers to work with me. They just wont give me the time of day, am I doing something wrong with my looks or poses, what is it?

I get a LOT of mail from models (some are friends) out of Texas saying that there aren't a lot of photographers doing the kind of thing I do down there, prompting me to say I'll need to take a trip down there in the next couple years.

In the meantime, if you ever make it to L.A. between then and now...

GLB Graphics wrote:

Yes indeed... We would be standing in line...

I'll get in that line....

PS.
All my friends move to Texas to retire...

Huynh Photography wrote:

You're not gross looking or anything. It just that you live in the wrong state.

and with that, the thread can come to a screeching halt.

Huynh Photography wrote:

You're not gross looking or anything. It just that you live in the wrong state.

https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=99318

yeah baby!

Shanna wrote:
well since im gunna be doing fetish and what not the ink shouldn't get in the way

Don't count on that
even in the fetish market, too much in and especially things lie big chest pieces can be limiting.

T H Taylor wrote:
The absolute very LAST thing that comes to mind when I look at you is "gross!"

Location, location, location!
Good luck!

lmao...