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Have you inquired their rates or just asked for TFP/CD? With that said, if you find yourself in AZ give me a shout and I'll do some TFCD with you... Miss Shanna Banana wrote: Dec 15 06 05:20 pm Link Your attitude is great. Being able to ask that question is a very sincere thing. Dec 15 06 05:20 pm Link Frog516 wrote: I don't know... Dec 15 06 05:20 pm Link Jay Bowman wrote: Thanks, that was driving my nuts. Dec 15 06 05:21 pm Link Carlos Arturo Velarde wrote: After Carlos, then me next !!! Dec 15 06 05:21 pm Link Jay Bowman wrote: Apparently we were wrong Jay. She seems to have no end of willing shooters, even WITH those demands. Dec 15 06 05:23 pm Link Ransom J wrote: Appalling isn't it? Dec 15 06 05:27 pm Link Why after? We can shoot her (and another model) at a cool location both of us can secure wolff wrote: Dec 15 06 05:27 pm Link Shanna... another question... Why would you want to mess up such beautiful breasts? Dec 15 06 05:30 pm Link I do believe that it has become highly evident that your attitude is your only hindrence in your ability to gain work. As someone else has pointed out, your bio reads EXTREMELY negatively. Here are a few suggestions that might give you a boost: Your bio is your resume. Would you tell a company that you're hoping to hire you "I aboslutely won't work at a register because the customers are rude!"? I think not!! You're simply going to suck it up and try to get hired and *then* negotiate. Your bio also reads like a lazy want ad that doesn't really want anything at all. Its hard to tell what your strengths are and where you'd like to go with your modeling career. Sure a website, but what kind? There are a wealth of different kinds of websites out there, everything from hardcore fetish to eye candy type stuff. A little more clarity would help. Heres the other important part: Remove anything that is negative out of your bio. Replace it with either positive alternatives or nothing at all. Sure, you will get requests that you don't want and that is ok. At this point it doesn't sound like people are beating down the door. Better to POLITELY turn down too many requests than to sit around and twiddle your thumbs wishing you had work. Being open to *anyone* contacting you gives you the freedom to choose exactly who you wish to work with. You can't be picky if you have no one to pick through. On the money issue: Welcome to the world of being an adult. Crying that you don't have money definately doesn't encourage people to give you money, no matter what you do. Believe me, there are tons of people (myself and my boyfriend included) that are struggling to make ends meet. Modeling is one of my resources. I treat it just like another job and will do whatever it takes to get the job done. I have my limits, as should you. However, if you actually want to make money at this then you've got to make it work for you, and that includes being willing to do things that aren't exactly in your flavor, simply because someone is paying you to do so. This doesn't mean that you have to comprimise any of your principles. However, it is important to be sure that those principles aren't comprimising your ability to gain work. Best of luck, it looks like you're going to need it. Dec 15 06 05:31 pm Link She provides 3 samples of the type of website she wants to do. NC17 wrote: Dec 15 06 05:32 pm Link Jay Bowman wrote: Meh... i wouldn't call it appalling. I mean if she can find those willing to do it good for her. Wouldn't be me. Or a lot of GREAT shooters that i know. But if she can find some great shooters to do it then that's REAL good for her. Dec 15 06 05:45 pm Link Time for objective honesty. You asked. Maybe I misread. I'm not bashing you. I don't know you at all before this thread, and you may be the sweetest person in the world, so forgive me if I sound crass. Here are some thoughts that came to mind as I looked at your portfolio and read through this thread: 1. you come across as fickle and fussy 2. you keep whining about being broke and lots of other things that are nobody's business. We all have issues to deal with. It's life. 3. there's already an undertone of "f-off, I'm pissed and I want someone to do something for me ... jerk." This is backed up by the music at your myspace (Fuck You, Street Terror) "I'm a teenager with PMS" -- I seriously don't tolerate that sanctimonious crap from anyone, including myself. For me, I slide past people who come at me this way before they get close. Life is too complicated already so nobody wants to add more hassles on our list of things that have to be fixed or solved or that add stress and angst to our lives. Without knowing anything about you, these are perceived symptoms like flashing red lights. The risk factor goes up for possible hassles, changing minds, excuses, negativism, etc., on top of the already hard work of executing good photo shoots and all the hours of work that follows in post processing. When we already pack our schedules to the bursting point, it's very important to choose the people who come into our lives very carefully. TFP or otherwise. Posting pictures of yourself like this is another warning signal that you might not be professional enough to set aside valuable time for: And when you say: "Who I'd like to meet: nobody ugly or skanky, or really old. old people pee on themselves" ... that sounds like most photographers out there who could take good pictures of you. So, what's the point? First, be yourself. If that doesn't sell, change to something that does, or do something else. Opportunities are everywhere around us. Some people can see them, lots of people can't or won't. That's just the way it is. I don't know what else to say. I'm depressed now. I don't like to talk like this. I'm sorry. I feel like I need a shower. I feel ugly and skanky and really old. I may as well pee on myself now. Dec 15 06 06:14 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: LMAO Dec 15 06 06:21 pm Link Carlos Arturo Velarde wrote: I don't think it messed them up. I like it. Dec 15 06 06:24 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: AHEM Dec 15 06 06:26 pm Link OBVIOUSLY You can do anything you want to do. Me too. Maybe that's the answer to your original question. Free Will Dec 15 06 06:29 pm Link Miss Shanna Banana wrote: Then you shouldnt link to your myspace from your MM account... Dec 15 06 06:30 pm Link Photographers unlike some models really read models profiles. I have not contacted models sometimes based on what I deem negative things or a tone I feel in their information. Who needs more drama in their lives? There was a past thread where a model made some silly accusations against a photographer here. I wondered why he offered to shoot her after reading her past nutty remarks and her profile. TFP doesn't mean shoot anyone willing to shed their clothes. The ideal is to sound upbeat and positive. I for example would always consider paying a model and would never say I wouldn't. You are a very attractive young women and I'm sure some here might even consider paying for your travel expenses . The ideal is to sound like someone they might want to work with besides being pretty, what do you offer? Being friendly and polite go a long way. Dec 15 06 06:30 pm Link Miss Shanna Banana wrote: It's LINKED to your online portfolio where you DO look for shoots. Hence it is represented to all possible bookers as a place to gain further knowledge of you as a model/person. Dec 15 06 06:30 pm Link alright thats cool i got some stuff to do yall have fun, i wont be looking in this anymore Dec 15 06 06:32 pm Link See? If this was a photo shoot, it would have just gone down the drain. Dec 15 06 06:33 pm Link Hold on... isn't BCG from TX, too? Didn't he shoot alt girls and periodically come up with topics that just boggled the mind? Nevermind, I don't know where I was going with that line of thinking... (but if you are out there, Criag, I'm on to you, buddy) Dec 15 06 06:35 pm Link Miss Shanna Banana wrote: well damn Dec 15 06 06:36 pm Link You are a beautiful lady, but please tell me that drawing all over your chest is not a real tat. If it's real, then I'm afraid you have shot yourself in the knee as far a serious modeling goes. Dec 15 06 06:47 pm Link She's 5'3" What type of modeling was she qualified to do that she shot herself in the foot about? Dec 15 06 06:48 pm Link Ransom J wrote: There's always glamor, commercial, and of course fetish (although I don't think the tat would be a problem w/ the last one). Dec 15 06 06:58 pm Link You have to tone up in your stomach area...there are plenty of glamour models in your area that you have to compete with. You have a cool face and an interesting look...but glamour girls are a dime a dozen..especially for GOOD glamour photographers. Take some outdoor shots. Dec 15 06 07:02 pm Link But the important question is: Will potential clients/paying photographers like it? I have nothing against tattoos, and some really complement the model's personna/personality.. but something of that size and location will definitelly limit your marketability in a lot of places... not to mention make it very very expensive to pay for the coverup so I won't be looking to shoot with you after that... Miss Shanna Banana wrote: Dec 15 06 07:02 pm Link She has basically just limited her availability to alternative/fetish... Katy Goldapple wrote: Dec 15 06 07:04 pm Link Katy Goldapple wrote: There's glamour and most wouldn't care about the tat. Dec 15 06 07:04 pm Link Carlos Arturo Velarde wrote: well the good thing is i wanna do fetish Dec 15 06 07:07 pm Link Most of the time the photographer already has a concept or style and you may not fit that concept. Speaking of Banana, I like Banana Puddin. Yes, she's a MM model. I haven't had any puddin in so long. Let me go and holla at her. Dec 15 06 07:10 pm Link Ransom J wrote: I was responding to when u said something to the extent of her being 5'3 and wondering what modeling opportunities she had that she shot herself in the foot with. I was just trying to say that shorter models have opportunities too. Dec 15 06 07:13 pm Link Miss Shanna Banana wrote: then why do you want the serious amazing photogs to shoot you? let the serious and amazing models work with them. Dec 15 06 07:13 pm Link Jay Bowman wrote: Mayhaps she's fishing. Some models do that on her. Fishing for a freebie Dec 15 06 07:21 pm Link Katy Goldapple wrote: Agree. There are models on here who aren't tall and have made plenty of progress. But that's not the point here. Her issues is her own. Peeps have pointed out what she is doing, the attitude won't get you far at all. She asked a question, but continues rejecting the answer. Skip it. Either she takes heed or she doesn't. Dec 15 06 07:28 pm Link there's a zillion cute girls with tattoos. i could walk up to one of em on the street, hand her my card, and say, "hey, you're a cute girl with tattoos. i'd love to photograph you, it would only take a couple hours, and i'd give you a CD with a couple really great photos of yourself for your time," and i'd have a model. unless you have something more to offer than all the other cute short girls in the universe, i don't know what to tell you. i don't think fetish modeling is very lucrative, financially, because fetish is going much more mainstream, so there are far more girls who want to get into that scene than there used to be. my advice would be to do TFP shoots, or pay photographers, get your name out there, and then maybe someday you'll be a big name that people are willing to pay for. Dec 15 06 07:44 pm Link This is what our lovely OP had to say about us on another members page : https://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=195334 Miss Shanna Banana wrote: What do you call the last 3 pages in this thread? Nevermind. You just wanted people to tell you how hot you were and not hand out actual advice. Dec 15 06 07:51 pm Link Apparently since we didn't stroke her ego, we are hipocrites with no good advice... who knew???!?! Envy wrote: Dec 15 06 07:55 pm Link |