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MelissaLynnette LaDiva
Posts: 50816
Leawood, Kansas, US
Kasmia wrote:
But it didnt have me or my hot model friends, and they make me cook and massage lol  Oh, I was with other hot models. 
Besides, aren't you people far away anyway?
Model
gabriell_a
Posts: 1616
Manaus, Amazonas, Brazil
Photographer
Kas_
Posts: 11110
Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada
Melissa Lynnette wrote:
Oh, I was with other hot models.
Besides, aren't you people far away anyway? It'll be worth the trip, do I need to show photographic proof? lol
Model
MelissaLynnette LaDiva
Posts: 50816
Leawood, Kansas, US
Kasmia wrote:
It'll be worth the trip, do I need to show photographic proof? lol Sure, why not? 
But I still only do one a week.
Model
MELissaMOORE
Posts: 1939
Fairfield, California, US
Your limits are your own personal choice and that is coming from someone
who does mostly nude modeling. You are 5'8" so you have a chance at runway some of us shorties have to go another route. Stay true to yourself.
Kisses,
MEL
Photographer
Archived
Posts: 13509
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Yeah, only listen to people who agree with you. That's wise. :eyeroll: Kali Hyde wrote:
I am listening to the good advice, and the advice that I agree with. Not people who are saying things that I'm doing are scams and fake .. I'm the one that went to the convention, I'm the one that got signed with an agency.
Model
gabriell_a
Posts: 1616
Manaus, Amazonas, Brazil
john hill wrote:
And why shouldn't photographers charge???If it is for your portfolio - that is the biz!!!We are not a charity!!! jh I don't see anything wrong with paying photographers that work for agencies to make the models comp card. Everything in life can't be free. Photographers need to make money too.
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gabriell_a
Posts: 1616
Manaus, Amazonas, Brazil
Photographer
Archived
Posts: 13509
Phoenix, Arizona, US
kali, put away your wallet for a second, stop falling for tall tales that guys with cameras tell girls about how they're guaranteed to get into playboy if they just drop the panties, and THINK.
or not, ya know. your call. i'm just sayin.
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gabriell_a
Posts: 1616
Manaus, Amazonas, Brazil
Dave Wright Photo wrote:
Yeah, only listen to people who agree with you. That's wise.
:eyeroll:
Sorry that I don't think good advice is " The thing that you did is a scam, you aren't with a real agency..because that agencies website doesn't have models that I know on it"
Whatever.
Model
gabriell_a
Posts: 1616
Manaus, Amazonas, Brazil
Dave Wright Photo wrote:
kali, put away your wallet for a second, stop falling for tall tales that guys with cameras tell girls about how they're guaranteed to get into playboy if they just drop the panties, and THINK.
or not, ya know. your call. i'm just sayin. I didn't consider playboy...I asked for opinions on why I was getting more attention from those kind of things...
Photographer
Archived
Posts: 13509
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Kali Hyde wrote:
I didn't consider playboy...I asked for opinions on why I was getting more attention from those kind of things... because you're not a rail, which means you're not built for high fashion, so people that shoot that work aren't talking to you. the people who are looking for girls of your build are sending you messages, and your build is suited for other work - like nude, lingerie, maybe even commercial and editorial.
why would you blow someone off who suggests you got scammed? are you sure the agency is legitimate? do they have a reputation? are you getting work? or did someone just tell you that they could make you a star, if you pay their photographer friend, who may or may not kick back some money to the "agency" for duping you?
i'm not saying it's one way or another, i'm saying it doesn't sound like you know.
Photographer
Kas_
Posts: 11110
Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada
Melissa Lynnette wrote:
Sure, why not?
But I still only do one a week. The Drinks
HotTub View#1
HotTub View#2
Company
As for the other people there, mostly my friends in my profile 
I'll pencil you in for Decembers naked hot tub party
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gabriell_a
Posts: 1616
Manaus, Amazonas, Brazil
Dave Wright Photo wrote:
because you're not a rail, which means you're not built for high fashion, so people that shoot that work aren't talking to you. the people who are looking for girls of your build are sending you messages, and your build is suited for other work - like nude, lingerie, maybe even commercial and editorial. It's silly that it took 6 pages of people saying things back and forth to get a straight answer like that. Thank you.
I have the height though, I just need to lose some weight. I've been on a runway infront of different agencies. Agencies that weren't all looking for the same thing. Some were impressed, some weren't.
Model
gabriell_a
Posts: 1616
Manaus, Amazonas, Brazil
Dave Wright Photo wrote:
because you're not a rail, which means you're not built for high fashion, so people that shoot that work aren't talking to you. the people who are looking for girls of your build are sending you messages, and your build is suited for other work - like nude, lingerie, maybe even commercial and editorial.
why would you blow someone off who suggests you got scammed? are you sure the agency is legitimate? do they have a reputation? are you getting work? or did someone just tell you that they could make you a star, if you pay their photographer friend, who may or may not kick back some money to the "agency" for duping you?
i'm not saying it's one way or another, i'm saying it doesn't sound like you know. The photographer that shoots for Victor's International is Jeff Strought. I shot with him mid October... I saw some of the photos and I was very impressed. Victor then picks out the ones for my comp card, and mails them to clients.
(cue everyone google his name & then come back and tell me it was a scam!)
Photographer
R Michael Walker
Posts: 11987
Costa Mesa, California, US
Kali Hyde wrote:
It's silly that it took 6 pages of people saying things back and forth to get a straight answer like that. Thank you.
I have the height though, I just need to lose some weight. I've been on a runway infront of different agencies. Agencies that weren't all looking for the same thing. Some were impressed, some weren't. My very first comment was on your plus 15 or so LBS for your height to do fashion ..then of course that the London Gig was PROBABLY a scam..Did you contact Brittney about her expierence with a similar ploy?
Mike
Photographer
fotorat
Posts: 509
Newcastle upon Tyne, England, United Kingdom
Daniela V wrote:
1. stop right there. agencies don't charge anything. Good agencies DO charge..they just don't do it upfront. All of the best agencies i know of do charge for your comps, delivering of books and even phone calls to clients. As soon as you get your first paid job they will take it from you, which, I find this is fair since it is the cost of doing business.
Model
gabriell_a
Posts: 1616
Manaus, Amazonas, Brazil
fotorat wrote:
Good agencies DO charge..they just don't do it upfront. All of the best agencies i know of do charge for your comps, delivering of books and even phone calls to clients. As soon as you get your first paid job they will take it from the model, which I find this is fair since it is the cost of doing business. THANK YOU!
Model
gabriell_a
Posts: 1616
Manaus, Amazonas, Brazil
Mike Walker wrote:
My very first comment was on your plus 15 or so LBS for your height to do fashion ..then of course that the London Gig was PROBABLY a scam..Did you contact Brittney about her expierence with a similar ploy?
Mike Is it plus 20 or plus 15?
Photographer
David Holloway
Posts: 713
Liberty Lake, Washington, US
Kali Hyde wrote:
Sorry that I don't think good advice is " The thing that you did is a scam, you aren't with a real agency..because that agencies website doesn't have models that I know on it"
Whatever. No offence to you but your above statement shows your lack of maturity..Modeling just like photography should be conducted as a business. These pros are trying to help you, however, you are too blinded by your lack of maturity and starry eyes to accept the help.
Maybe you should step back and listen to the people who, as someone put it, "been in the industry longer then you have been alive". These people are in the position to let you know if your being scammed and what you need to do to shoot for that dream of high fashion, but if you hold true to that lack of maturity you will discount this advice as well but hey, as a new model who is only 18...You are more worldly then these other people and are an expert in the modeling industry.
One thing I know is that it is hard to accept advice if you don't like it, but it can be done and you should listen to these people, they will steer you in the right direction
my.02
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The German Woman
Posts: 1346
Berlin, Georgia, US
Eric S. wrote:
The hottest high-fashion model in the world right now (In my humble opinion), Natalia Vodianova, has posed topless and nude numerous times in the last year including a feature in W magazine.
I wish you a happy successful career as a "high-fashion model" and of course, you never even have to shoot in lingerie, never mind nude. But please don't assume the "high-fashion" world is detached from nudity. Natalia Vodinova has been a top model for many many years...completely different thing than posing nude before your career as a fashion model takes off. ESPECIALLY is you pose nude for glamour shots like Playboy or Maxim or something like that.
Photographer
REOO Arts
Posts: 135
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US
didnt really read farther than the first page of the thread, but wow what a self indulgent bullshit thread. the fact that there are currently 6 pages to this hurts my mind. I only clicked on this because it has passed through the "Last Posts" section of the main page, and i figured that there might be so sort of reasonable conversation.
So lately it seems that a lot of people think that I would be more successful doing things that involve less clothing. Or going for a more trashier look. Some think I have more of a porn star face than a models. that kind of upsets me, I don't want to be in porn, or do anything involving nudity. It just isn't for me. I want to be a high fashion model.
I know my portfolio isn't anything special right now, a lot of you have already gone over it with me. I'm working on it!
It seems like there are a lot more job openings being offered to me in that line of work though..I don't know what to do. I don't have a problem posing in lingerie or in swimsuits..but everyone I say that to is like " Well then why can't you just step up one level to nude? "
Because I don't want to. I'm comfortable with my body. I just don't want to be portrayed like that. I've gotten offers for different magazines..Ones that I would have to be practically completely nude in, obviously.
UGH.
wow, looking for attention that mommy and daddy didnt give you?
eh dont even bother to respond to this. i wont be here to pay attention.
Model
gabriell_a
Posts: 1616
Manaus, Amazonas, Brazil
REOO Arts wrote:
didnt really read farther than the first page of the thread, but wow what a self indulgent bullshit thread. the fact that there are currently 6 pages to this hurts my brain. I only clicked on this because it has passed through the "Last Posts" section of the main page, and i figured that there might be so sort of reasonable conversation. If you only have negative things to say, why add it to everyone elses? I intended on getting some advice from people who claim to know their shit, and that's what I did.
Model
gabriell_a
Posts: 1616
Manaus, Amazonas, Brazil
REOO Arts wrote:
wow, looking for attention that mommy and daddy didnt give you?
eh dont even bother to respond to this. i wont be here to pay attention. you're pretty mature and know everything, since I have parents and all. Asshole. I'm sure I'll have a response in a minute or so from you, always do.
Photographer
The German Woman
Posts: 1346
Berlin, Georgia, US
Kali Hyde wrote:
I would go to New York..but I don't fit into the 5'9-5'11 size 0-2 category. I'm almost 5'9..and nowhere near a size 0, or 2. Going to New York would be a waste of time, and money I think. You are a short girl according to industry standard.
You have a beautyful face and beautiful hair but I'm telling you right now even if you lost weight and got your body right you'd still have a hard time becoming a fashion model and getting signed with a legit agency. I haven't even checked out those agencies you're signed with but the fact that I've never heard of them makes me cringe already
Photographer
fotorat
Posts: 509
Newcastle upon Tyne, England, United Kingdom
Kali....
In all honesty...After reading a few of your responses..I am guessing that by high fashion you mean the brands like Channel, Dior, Cavalli, Prada, etc. I will be the first to tell you I do not do high fashion photography.....not because I don't want to, but because it is quite a competitive field and there is room for very few. The same holds true for high fashion models. With the little experience I have I can tell you that your portfolio is not even close to being there. I would even hate the thought that you actually paid for some of those shots. The height thing is only about a third of it. You need the body and the face to go with it.
Now if you want to model for anything else thats a complete different story. I can see you pursuing a lucrative carreer as a commercial model without the need to take your clothes off. Now I do not have any idea what your local market is like, but I would suggest a place like Miami(in season) or Los Angeles for this.
I do hope this made it clearer for you and do wish you the best.
sincerely,
Roberto
Model
gabriell_a
Posts: 1616
Manaus, Amazonas, Brazil
fotorat wrote:
Kali....
In all honesty...After reading a few of your responses..I am guessing that by high fashion you mean the brands like Channel, Dior, Cavalli, Prada, etc. I will be the first to tell you I do not do high fashion photography.....not because I don't want to, but because it is quite a competitive field and there is room for very few. The same holds true for high fashion models. With the little experience I have I can tell you that your portfolio is not even close to being there. I would even hate the see you pursuing a lucrative carreer as a commercial model without the need to thought that you actually paid for some of those shots. The height thing is only about a third of it. You need the body and the face to go with it.
Now if you want to model for anything else thats a complete different story. I can take your clothes off. Now I do not have any idea what your local market is like, but I would suggest a place like Miami(in season) or Los Angeles for this.
I do hope this made it clearer for you and do wish you the best.
sincerely,
Roberto Yes, Thanks =]
Model
Grace Face
Posts: 1266
When I first read the title of this thread, I misread it as "everyone wants to be naked"
And I was like...hmm!
Photographer
The German Woman
Posts: 1346
Berlin, Georgia, US
Daniela V wrote:
I'm canting. LMAO
Model
gabriell_a
Posts: 1616
Manaus, Amazonas, Brazil
Annique Delphine wrote:
You are a short girl according to industry standard.
You have a beautyful face and beautiful hair but I'm telling you right now even if you lost weight and got your body right you'd still have a hard time becoming a fashion model and getting signed with a legit agency. I haven't even checked out those agencies you're signed with but the fact that I've never heard of them makes me cringe already No offence but that doesn't mean they aren't good, and can't find me work.
Photographer
Kevin Connery
Posts: 17825
El Segundo, California, US
Kali Hyde wrote:
I intended on getting some advice from people who claim to know their shit, and that's what I did. You did. You didn't like it.
"Whatever."
Photographer
The German Woman
Posts: 1346
Berlin, Georgia, US
Kali Hyde wrote:
No offence but that doesn't mean they aren't good, and can't find me work. ok well...good luck with that......in....where again are you????
Model
gabriell_a
Posts: 1616
Manaus, Amazonas, Brazil
Annique Delphine wrote:
ok well...good luck with that......in....where again are you???? pittsburgh =]
Model
Ashley N Spicer
Posts: 69
Orlando, Florida, US
I personally think that you are delusional in that you state that you only want to listen to those that agree with you.
First off, do you realize how many scams are out there? Just because their website might look good or tempting or they tell you that you're pretty (which you are) doesn't mean they are legit.
A lot of what is posted on the net concerning scams and other things should be used to your benefit as far as choosing an appropriate agency, photographer, or company to work with. For you to just bash what everyone says even when provided with proof is ridiculous and goes to show that you're not that serious about your modeling career. In fact, I think you deserve to be screwed over due to the disrespect you've given to quite a few people that have tried to help you.
Regardless, I'm no expert but DO YOUR RESEARCH!! I agree with those that think you're a bit naive... you give off this sense of thinking nothing wrong can happen to you and everyone out there that gives you the time of day is totally legitimate and will get you somewhere.
You need a reality check.
Model
gabriell_a
Posts: 1616
Manaus, Amazonas, Brazil
Ashley N Spicer wrote:
I personally think that you are delusional in that you state that you only want to listen to those that agree with you.
First off, do you realize how many scams are out there? Just because their website might look good or tempting or they tell you that you're pretty (which you are) doesn't mean they are legit.
A lot of what is posted on the net concerning scams and other things should be used to your benefit as far as choosing an appropriate agency, photographer, or company to work with. For you to just bash what everyone says even when provided with proof is ridiculous and goes to show that you're not that serious about your modeling career. In fact, I think you deserve to be screwed over due to the disrespect you've given to quite a few people that have tried to help you.
Regardless, I'm no expert but DO YOUR RESEARCH!! I agree with those that think you're a bit naive... you give off this sense of thinking nothing wrong can happen to you and everyone out there that gives you the time of day is totally legitimate and will get you somewhere.
You need a reality check. Because no one that I have worked with yet has screwed me over. It's ridiculous that that is all people have to say to me.. that something is a scam or that it isn't real... I've already done it, it wasn't.
Model
gabriell_a
Posts: 1616
Manaus, Amazonas, Brazil
Kevin Connery wrote:
You did. You didn't like it.
"Whatever." No, I did like some of it, and took in a lot of it. But the same people that keep saying over and over that something is a scam is wasting their time.. that's what I said whatever to. If they want to think that, let them. "whatever"
And you googled that photographer...what do you think
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Ashley N Spicer
Posts: 69
Orlando, Florida, US
Kali Hyde wrote:
Because no one that I have worked with yet has screwed me over. It's ridiculous that that is all people have to say to me.. that something is a scam or that it isn't real... I've already done it, it wasn't. You've claimed you were charged $200 from whatever 'agency' you belong to (Quickbook or something?) which is one of the BIGGEST red lights right there...
Remember that an agency is the one that takes the risk in hiring you - NOT YOU!!! You should not be required to pay anything whatsoever. In fact, (please correct me if I'm wrong), but I believe you said that you've paid to work with their photographer's or something like that. I have no problem paying for a great photographer to work with me.. they're in business like everyone else. But for your agency to require it is ridiculous. I have an agency interested in me down in Miami that wants me to test with one of their photographer's. Not naming any names, but he's a well known NYC photographer that will be in my area in December. I shoot free of charge.
Do you see what I'm getting at? I'm not attacking you at all. I think you're quite a beautiful girl. I just think that you're really not taking heed of the advice being presented to you.
Model
gabriell_a
Posts: 1616
Manaus, Amazonas, Brazil
Ashley N Spicer wrote:
You've claimed you were charged $200 from whatever 'agency' you belong to (Quickbook or something?) which is one of the BIGGEST red lights right there...
Remember that an agency is the one that takes the risk in hiring you - NOT YOU!!! You should not be required to pay anything whatsoever. In fact, (please correct me if I'm wrong), but I believe you said that you've paid to work with their photographer's or something like that. I have no problem paying for a great photographer to work with me.. they're in business like everyone else. But for your agency to require it is ridiculous. I have an agency interested in me down in Miami that wants me to test with one of their photographer's. Not naming any names, but he's a well known NYC photographer that will be in my area in December. I shoot free of charge.
Do you see what I'm getting at? I'm not attacking you at all. I think you're quite a beautiful girl. I just think that you're really not taking heed of the advice being presented to you. no, the photographer was the agencies..it was to make my comp cards.
Photographer
Jason McKendricks
Posts: 6025
Chico, California, US
Kali Hyde wrote:
It's silly that it took 6 pages of people saying things back and forth to get a straight answer like that. Thank you. Respectfully, I said much the same thing way back on page 3.
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