Model
Kali Doom
Posts: 136
Nashville, Arkansas, US
Mos Photography wrote: lol. I would be mad if you asked. My only problem is when you respond back with an attitude. BTW..I like your port. Paldies.
Photographer
RGK Photography
Posts: 4695
Wilton, Connecticut, US
Jessalyn_54 wrote:
you can argue all you want with the IRS, doesn't mean you're right. Just because a tax accountant tells you "oh yea you can deduct that" doesn't mean they are right. It means they told someone else to do it before and they got away with it. From the IRS web site What Can I Deduct? To be deductible, a business expense must be both ordinary and necessary. An ordinary expense is one that is common and accepted in your trade or business. A necessary expense is one that is helpful and appropriate for your trade or business. An expense does not have to be indispensable to be considered necessary.
Model
Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
RGK Photography wrote: Ok, as I said, you show me the ruling that says you can't, or the tax code which defines what is deductable. I repeat you CANNOT deduct clothes. Just because I'm not a CPA doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. Taken from http://www.irs.gov/publications/p529/ar02.html#d0e2533 Work Clothes and Uniforms You can deduct the cost and upkeep of work clothes if the following two requirements are met. 1. You must wear them as a condition of your employment 2. The clothes are not suitable for everyday wear. It is not enough that you wear distinctive clothing. The clothing must be specifically required by your employer. Nor is it enough that you do not, in fact, wear your work clothes away from work. The clothing must not be suitable for taking the place of your regular clothing. Examples of workers who may be able to deduct the cost and upkeep of work clothes are: delivery workers, firefighters, health care workers, law enforcement officers, letter carriers, professional athletes, and transportation workers (air, rail, bus, etc.). Musicians and entertainers can deduct the cost of theatrical clothing and accessories that are not suitable for everyday wear. However, work clothing consisting of white cap, white shirt or white jacket, white bib overalls, and standard work shoes, which a painter is required by his union to wear on the job, is not distinctive in character or in the nature of a uniform. Similarly, the costs of buying and maintaining blue work clothes worn by a welder at the request of a foreman are not deductible.
Photographer
Star
Posts: 17966
Los Angeles, California, US
Jessalyn_54 wrote:
I repeat you CANNOT deduct clothes. Just because I'm not a CPA doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. Taken from http://www.irs.gov/publications/p529/ar02.html#d0e2533 Work Clothes and Uniforms You can deduct the cost and upkeep of work clothes if the following two requirements are met. 1. You must wear them as a condition of your employment 2. The clothes are not suitable for everyday wear. It is not enough that you wear distinctive clothing. The clothing must be specifically required by your employer. Nor is it enough that you do not, in fact, wear your work clothes away from work. The clothing must not be suitable for taking the place of your regular clothing. Examples of workers who may be able to deduct the cost and upkeep of work clothes are: delivery workers, firefighters, health care workers, law enforcement officers, letter carriers, professional athletes, and transportation workers (air, rail, bus, etc.). Musicians and entertainers can deduct the cost of theatrical clothing and accessories that are not suitable for everyday wear. However, work clothing consisting of white cap, white shirt or white jacket, white bib overalls, and standard work shoes, which a painter is required by his union to wear on the job, is not distinctive in character or in the nature of a uniform. Similarly, the costs of buying and maintaining blue work clothes worn by a welder at the request of a foreman are not deductible.
so I can deduct model's costuming since it is a size 0-6 and I am a size 16? Star
Model
Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
Star wrote:
so I can deduct model's costuming since it is a size 0-6 and I am a size 16? Star if you bought it for a model and gave it to her I'm pretty sure you can deduct it. if you kept it I'm not so sure.
Photographer
Grafanovitchi
Posts: 573
San Marcos, California, US
Nemi Bea wrote: Because we don't have money. You = Working Professional Me = 20 year old kid, 40 thousand dollars in debt. duh. Why don't you chat about something else that has been beat into the fucking ground? Wow, you kiss your momma with that mouth?
Model
Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
can you imagine if your mom or dad worked for free? you would've grew up under some bridge, in some card box-that someone threw over the bridge-and you would've had all your teeth fall out-because you couldn't afford toothpaste-before the age of 18. Extreme, I know, close to reality, could've been. I finally got tired of people asking me to do stuff for free. I'm begining to speak up-finally-and tell them just what I think of working for free. I don't lower my prices anymore, if they can't afford it-oh well-get someone else. I mean, if Vogue or FLAUNT or NYLON or Dutch magazine asked me to do work for free, I would, only because I know millions of people would see my work, and that would lead to potential clients. It's weird how people think your rude, just because you tell them NO. Well, I have one thing to say and it has 4 letters and ends with-THEM. Willy Branlund Mos Photography wrote: I so agree with you man. woa dude. that's not how it works. You don't go to another thread, click quote, copy and paste it into the thread you're workin' in. If anything, you state "This guy in this other thread made a good point I would like to quote."
Photographer
AU fotografia
Posts: 1723
Houston, Texas, US
Nemi Bea wrote: Because we don't have money. You = Working Professional Me = 20 year old kid, 40 thousand dollars in debt. duh. Why don't you chat about something else that has been beat into the fucking ground? hunnie, i'm a 21 year old photographer and college student in debt because of my photo equipment and cost of education, not because i'm just trying to be pretty, so now, back offf
Model
MelissaLynnette LaDiva
Posts: 50816
Leawood, Kansas, US
Jessalyn_54 wrote: woa dude. that's not how it works. You don't go to another thread, click quote, copy and paste it into the thread you're workin' in. If anything, you state "This guy in this other thread made a good point I would like to quote." Yeah, basically.
Model
MelissaLynnette LaDiva
Posts: 50816
Leawood, Kansas, US
And is this thread really about cheap models, or one model who didn't want to pay this guy and so she went off? She shouldn't have, of course, but does it make me cheap because I look for TFP first? Well I look for paid first, just not off this site. Or does it make me "thrifty"?
Model
Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
Melissa Lynnette wrote: And is this thread really about cheap models, or one model who didn't want to pay this guy and so she went off? She shouldn't have, of course, but does it make me cheap because I look for TFP first? Well I look for paid first, just not off this site. Or does it make me "thrifty"? we're thrifty honey and I totally bought some shoes yesterday for $4.50 brand new, 70% off, from Fashion Bug and used them in a photoshoot today. that is ALSO being thrifty.
Photographer
Frank McAdam
Posts: 2222
New York, New York, US
Mos Photography wrote: Why do models want to use the best photographers on MM, but not pay for his/her talent? Gee, it must be lonely at the top.
Model
Kaitlin Lara
Posts: 6467
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US
Well I'm sure this has probably been said before, but I'm like 10 posts away from a shirt, so I'm going to say it anyway. Just as you feel you deserve to be paid, many models deserve to be paid, or to do TFP. Just as you won't accept TFP, some models won't pay. It's simple. If you're a good model, you shouldn't have to pay anyone. If you're a good photographer, you shouldn't have to pay anyone. You pretty much answered your own question in the original post...lol
Model
Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
Kaitlin Lara wrote: Well I'm sure this has probably been said before, but I'm like 10 posts away from a shirt, so I'm going to say it anyway. Just as you feel you deserve to be paid, many models deserve to be paid, or to do TFP. Just as you won't accept TFP, some models won't pay. It's simple. If you're a good model, you shouldn't have to pay anyone. If you're a good photographer, you shouldn't have to pay anyone. You pretty much answered your own question in the original post...lol keep on keepin on, you're close to that shirt!
Photographer
Jim Ball
Posts: 17632
Frontenac, Kansas, US
Jessalyn_54 wrote:
we're thrifty honey and I totally bought some shoes yesterday for $4.50 brand new, 70% off, from Fashion Bug and used them in a photoshoot today. that is ALSO being thrifty. temporary thread hijack: Hey Jessie, get off the forums and check your email!
Model
Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
Jim Ball wrote:
temporary thread hijack: Hey Jessie, get off the forums and check your email! hey I did! check YOUR email!
Photographer
KXphotography
Posts: 301
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
hey i read like the 5th email, and stop reading, oh well hopfully someone reads mine. all i know is that, some people are just plane rude! If you don't like someone's style just 'no thankyou' not 'no no no, rub in your face no!' people just pist me off!
Photographer
Jim Ball
Posts: 17632
Frontenac, Kansas, US
Jessalyn_54 wrote:
hey I did! check YOUR email! My damn mail server is slow--nothing from you yet.
Model
MelissaLynnette LaDiva
Posts: 50816
Leawood, Kansas, US
Jessalyn_54 wrote:
we're thrifty honey and I totally bought some shoes yesterday for $4.50 brand new, 70% off, from Fashion Bug and used them in a photoshoot today. that is ALSO being thrifty. Juuuuuust making sure. I was in Payless yesterday, and they are doing that BOGO thing and I almost got tricked into shopping, but I am unemployed so I couldn't. Boo!!
Photographer
Kevin Connery
Posts: 17825
El Segundo, California, US
Mos Photography wrote: I understand that some models are building their port, but please dont go off on me when I say I am not accpeting any TFP. Why do models want to use the best photographers on MM, but not pay for his/her talent? Mos Photography wrote: Im only here for advice. Nothing more nothing less. I dont depend on this site for getting money.
Photographer
Robert Ector
Posts: 386
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Kevin Connery wrote:
If you would stop stalking me from post to post, you would understand what I said. I do not DEPEND on this site for money. Meaning my bills will be paid rather or not I get paying models from here. I get PLENTY of paying gigs off of the board. PLENTY.
Model
Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
Mos Photography wrote: If you would stop stalking me from post to post like the sick fuck that you are, you would understand what I said. I do not DEPEND on this site for money. Meaning my bills will still be paid rather or not if I get paying models from here. I get PLENTY of paying gigs off of the board. PLENTY. read the rules of the forums. no flaming or name calling. watch it.
Photographer
Robert Ector
Posts: 386
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Jessalyn_54 wrote:
read the rules of the forums. no flaming or name calling. watch it. I apologize to the forum. Jessalyn, shut up.
Model
Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
Mos Photography wrote:
I apologize to the forum. Jessalyn, shut up. you kiss your mamma with that mouth?
Model
MelissaLynnette LaDiva
Posts: 50816
Leawood, Kansas, US
Mos Photography wrote:
I apologize to the forum. Jessalyn, shut up. Are you fucking serious?! Gotta love these ***************** damn this isn't the pit. Bye.
Model
Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
Melissa Lynnette wrote:
Are you fucking serious?! Gotta love these ***************** damn this isn't the pit. Bye. it will be in the Pit soon if Mos keeps trash talking people
Photographer
Robert Ector
Posts: 386
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Jessalyn_54 wrote:
you kiss your mamma with that mouth? Sometimes I do. And Mellissa, I think Jessalyn could use a 5 minute break from you swinging on her balls. You all have a nice day.
Model
Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
Mos Photography wrote:
Sometimes I do. And Mellissa, I think Jessalyn could use a 5 minute break from you swinging on her balls. You all have a nice day. you're just jealous that people are agreeing with me and that I have friends. you're also jealous that I was right about the tax thing not that you were saying I was wrong. I'm just waiting for RGK to admit I was right.
Model
Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
to Mos: I hope you know that if we're pissing you off you can always have this thread locked. Just contact-a-mod.
Photographer
Robert Ector
Posts: 386
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Jessalyn, im not pissed off. You are just very immature. Thats all.
Model
Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
Mos Photography wrote: Jessalyn, im not pissed off. You are just very immature. Thats all. Please, enlighten me on how I'm immature. I'm sure that others will disagree with your statement. My posts are very educated and to the point. Being funny does not equate to immaturity. When someone is being immature, they resort to name calling. *cough*
Model
K Ann
Posts: 713
Renton, Washington, US
I found enough great photographers that do TFP so I didn't worry about not working with one because he wanted me to pay. It didn't feel like that big a loss. Now I'm getting more and more paid offers so I know I never have to pay! But I'm not rude or offensive when they tell me I need to pay, I just tell him/her that I can't afford it, which is true.
Model
MelissaLynnette LaDiva
Posts: 50816
Leawood, Kansas, US
Mos Photography wrote:
Sometimes I do. And Mellissa, I think Jessalyn could use a 5 minute break from you swinging on her balls. You all have a nice day. Sweetheart, learn how to spell. My name only has one "l" in it, thanks. And as long as Jess doesn't mind me swinging on her balls, then we're all good. I don't see what reason you have to get all hostile. Remember, we both agreed with your original point, and I was considering paying you for a shoot when I came to Atlanta for the holidays, because you do have a wonderful portfolio, but apparently that was easily forgotten when you got into some dick swinging contest with Kevin and decided to take it out on Jess. Ugh, why isn't this in the Pit dammit!
Model
K Ann
Posts: 713
Renton, Washington, US
Whoa, so it's what...midday there in the states give or take a timezone? And you come home from work, or are still at work, to get on the computer and argue? I think everyone here needs to blow off their tension and stress at the gym or something. It's past midnight here and I've said all I will, I'm not gonna argue my point since I've made it already.
Model
MelissaLynnette LaDiva
Posts: 50816
Leawood, Kansas, US
KelseyAnn wrote: Whoa, so it's what...midday there in the states give or take a timezone? And you come home from work, or are still at work, to get on the computer and argue? I think everyone here needs to blow off their tension and stress at the gym or something. It's past midnight here and I've said all I will, I'm not gonna argue my point since I've made it already. It's Sunday. Who's at work?
Model
K Ann
Posts: 713
Renton, Washington, US
haha, Oh I'm in Israel! It's all different here! Good point... Today's the first day of the work week here.
Model
MelissaLynnette LaDiva
Posts: 50816
Leawood, Kansas, US
KelseyAnn wrote: haha, Oh I'm in Israel! It's all different here! Good point... Today's the first day of the work week here. Smoochies! Yeah, in the US we like to laze around on Sundays. Ooh, and it's Halloween weekend, who's gonna dress slutty and go get candy?
Photographer
Robert Ector
Posts: 386
Atlanta, Georgia, US
KelseyAnn wrote: Whoa, so it's what...midday there in the states give or take a timezone? And you come home from work, or are still at work, to get on the computer and argue? I think everyone here needs to blow off their tension and stress at the gym or something. It's past midnight here and I've said all I will, I'm not gonna argue my point since I've made it already. I totally agree. Im not going to argue with Kellyanne or Melissa. Flavor of Love is about to come on....lol
Model
K Ann
Posts: 713
Renton, Washington, US
But it's still God's day! Let's all be nice, eh? Yeah, I said I would stop talking... I kinda just wanted to see if anyone would get mad at me or not. *blushes*
Model
K Ann
Posts: 713
Renton, Washington, US
I fly back to Greece on Tues, I get in pretty late. No Halloween for me :*(
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