Photographer

eyelight

Posts: 1598

Moorpark, California, US

THis has been an educational thread... that's for damn sure.  By nature, I am a hugger for three reasons:
1. Italian - it's what we do.
2. Theatre - I tyeach it, Direct it, and Live it. - it's what we do.
3. I was beaten as a child... okay make that two reasons...

However, when I first started, I was shooting headshots and almost every client initiated hugging.  Now, I only don't if the model/client seems physically distant and I like to believe I am reasonably good at reading those types of signals...

Sep 11 06 07:56 pm Link

Photographer

Curt at photoworks

Posts: 31812

Riverside, California, US

Melissa Lynnette wrote:
Oh Curt!  You know you're the only photographer I'd ever like to hug!

https://photoworks.ws/images/icons/biggrin.gif

Sep 11 06 07:56 pm Link

Photographer

D. Brian Nelson

Posts: 5477

Rapid City, South Dakota, US

I hug.  But only for prurient reasons.

-Don

Sep 11 06 08:11 pm Link

Photographer

dgold

Posts: 10302

Pawtucket, Rhode Island, US

oldguysrule wrote:

dude you are scaring me. will you not hug your child for fear of impregnating them? talk about uptight!

Uptight and not alright.
...All you need is love.
Spread the word...and hugs and kisses...
do not fear.
Love is all you need.

Sep 11 06 08:20 pm Link

Model

Idaho

Posts: 1271

Colorado Springs, Colorado, US

Iris Swope wrote:

The escort should be stopping the hugging shouldn't he? No physical conctact at all, lest you be accused of molesting them.


(The last model I 'cheek-kissed' I accidently got his mouth, and grabbed his crotch)

but it really was an accident

umm I have accidents like this in clubs. Women's butts keep running into my hands!

Sep 11 06 08:23 pm Link

Photographer

oldguysrule

Posts: 6129

studio L wrote:
the sun just does not revolve around you, no matter the size of your king jimmy photographer's ego, 'neh?

lol... let's talk when you're out of diapers *wink

Sep 11 06 11:31 pm Link

Model

e-string

Posts: 24002

Kansas City, Missouri, US

If you equate modeling to your regular job... either you don't have any passion for your art, or you must have an awesome day job.

I've been hugged so many times by my photographers.. I have become friends with many of them, but others will hug me as well. Heck, I've been hugged while I was still nude several times because they were so happy about an image we just got.

Sep 11 06 11:34 pm Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

I'm gonna give a long extended hug to the next male model I shoot... And the agency booker, and any photog I shoot with (no one heard that), and any pretty guy I see in the future....


I got my Hottest Guy thread... come contribute....

https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=75421

Sep 11 06 11:39 pm Link

Model

MelissaLynnette LaDiva

Posts: 50816

Leawood, Kansas, US

e-string wrote:
If you equate modeling to your regular job... either you don't have any passion for your art, or you must have an awesome day job.

Uh no.  But how many times do photographers equate modeling with real jobs, the real business world, etc.?  They can do it, but I can't?  You can't go two seconds on this site without some "blunt", "honest" photographer giving us the real deal about "do you not show up to your real job?", "do you bring an escort to your real job?", "would you work for free in the real world?".  But all of a sudden I equate a productive photo shoot with the "real" world, and I'm an uptight bedwetter who wasn't hugged enough as a child and has no love for the human race.  Interesting.

Sep 12 06 01:45 am Link

Model

Wynd Mulysa

Posts: 8619

Berkeley, California, US

This thread is the reason I am sometimes really awkward when parting with someone - No matter how much I know them.
What's the big deal about a hug?!

Sep 12 06 02:00 am Link

Model

Muse Anya

Posts: 344

Sunnyvale, California, US

I don't know if hugging is more of a Californian thing or not, but just friends I've made here in Chicago so far (in the past 2 weeks)... half of them are weird about hugs and comment on me being a Californian ever time I want one.... haven't worked with any photographers here yet. 

The ones I have worked with in Cali, though, have been pretty easy going on hugs.  If our energies really complemented eachother during the shoot, and we were able to connect in both creating beautiful images and talking, both parties are happy to hug at the end.  I feel blessed to have met some really beautiful people modeling.

Sep 12 06 02:02 am Link

Model

Wynd Mulysa

Posts: 8619

Berkeley, California, US

Melissa Lynnette wrote:
But all of a sudden I equate a productive photo shoot with the "real" world, and I'm an uptight bedwetter who wasn't hugged enough as a child and has no love for the human race.  Interesting.

You're funny.  smile.  Thanks.

Sep 12 06 02:03 am Link

Photographer

Le Beck Photography

Posts: 4114

Los Angeles, California, US

Melissa Lynnette wrote:
Maybe this only happens to me, but what is up with photographers hugging me after a shoot that goes well?  My boss doesn't hug me when he lands a big important client.  My old boss never hugged me when.....oh wait, she did, but she was my aunt.  Ok, bad example.  But what I'm wondering is:  How many photographers are huggers?

I let the Model decide. I offer my hand but so far all the women want a hug. I'm old enough to be their father but I don't think that's it.

Brazilians not only hug but they expect three kisses on the cheek, one on each cheek and a second on the first one, At least Cariocas and Paolistas do ;-)

Sep 12 06 02:15 am Link

Photographer

Curt at photoworks

Posts: 31812

Riverside, California, US

Iris Swope wrote:
I'm gonna give a long extended hug to the next male model I shoot... And the agency booker, and any photog I shoot with (no one heard that), and any pretty guy I see in the future....


I got my Hottest Guy thread... come contribute....

https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=75421

you've completely perved on us.

(I didn't mean for that to sound bad...)

Sep 12 06 02:40 am Link

Photographer

Blakberi Photography

Posts: 1647

Quebec, Quebec, Canada

Hugging can be intensely awkward if judged badly...

But as artistics, we tend to feel closer to someone when we have a shared experience that affects you both.  If the shoot was rubbish, a swift firm "that's all folks" handshake is due and expected.  If it goes well and there was a great rapport, hug it out

Sep 12 06 02:52 am Link

Model

Sarah Hunter

Posts: 1463

Los Angeles, California, US

Iris Swope wrote:
(The last model I 'cheek-kissed' I accidently got his mouth, and grabbed his crotch)

but it really was an accident

That rocks big_smile

Honestly, I think people are just really friendly in this profession.  Also, I'd say about 90% of the people I work with turn out to be really good friends, so we always end up hugging at the end of a shoot, anyway.  It could be a Texas thing, too.

Sep 12 06 02:55 am Link

Photographer

duds here

Posts: 397

Chicago, Illinois, US

Yes in this industry it kind of takes after the movie industry which as you know is all hugs.  I have been hugged and even kissed (surprised) by models etc.

It is just a way of saying hi, as long as no one takes advantage or does anything distasteful.  It is done all the time.

Once I worked with a prop stylist she hugged, and then when I ran across her at another studio, she ran up and hugged me gave me a kiss, on the cheek like I was her lost boy friend, I didn't mind.

It is better than a kick in the butt!

C

Sep 12 06 03:00 am Link

Photographer

duds here

Posts: 397

Chicago, Illinois, US

Read you post about you will hug from now on, good for you.

don't forget, you said no one hugged you from where you came from, but everyone is different.

So you have to be cool and go with the flow unless there is really something you don't like about a person or what they are doing.

Sep 12 06 03:07 am Link

Photographer

Andrei Ku

Posts: 83

New York, New York, US

i'm in seattle

no hugs here or anything of this sort..rarefied sanitized air of gloomy reserved niceness about everything and everyone

i need a hug (

Sep 12 06 03:37 am Link

Photographer

LeDeux Art

Posts: 50123

San Ramon, California, US

Melissa Lynnette wrote:
Maybe this only happens to me, but what is up with photographers hugging me after a shoot that goes well?  My boss doesn't hug me when he lands a big important client.  My old boss never hugged me when.....oh wait, she did, but she was my aunt.  Ok, bad example.  But what I'm wondering is:  How many photographers are huggers?

Ive had models hug me but I am normaly hot and sweaty after a shoot and I never invite this hug, I dont really like to touch the subject at all as it spoils the illusion that we are trying to create

Sep 12 06 03:43 am Link

Photographer

Nihilus

Posts: 10888

Nashville, Tennessee, US

People don't hug?

Sep 12 06 03:45 am Link

Photographer

LeDeux Art

Posts: 50123

San Ramon, California, US

Melissa Lynnette wrote:
Whoa whoa whoa people!!  I'm not anti hugging, I just thought it was odd.  The photographers in Kansas didn't hug me, this is new for me.  I don't think anyone wants to screw me or whatever, I was just wondering.  I'm not big on the touchy feely with people I don't know all that well.  Sheesh!!  I'll hug from now on ok? smile

you do what you feel comfortable with, your space should always be respected

Sep 12 06 03:46 am Link

Photographer

Justin Huang

Posts: 1308

Irvine, California, US

even when i motion for a hug, models never hug me

i smell funny

Sep 12 06 03:54 am Link

Model

MsHeidi

Posts: 2081

Jessheim, Akershus, Norway

I just gotta say i allways hug..family, friends and photographers!

Sep 12 06 03:59 am Link

Makeup Artist

LisaJohnson

Posts: 10525

Nashville, Tennessee, US

we're big on hugging in the south...but sometimes.... I don't want a hug from someone I just started work with.... maybe later when we've all EARNED it.... wink  no tongues on the first date either.... heehee

Sep 12 06 04:02 am Link

Makeup Artist

LisaJohnson

Posts: 10525

Nashville, Tennessee, US

{{{{ ANDREI }}}} HUGS!

Andrei Ku wrote:
i'm in seattle

no hugs here or anything of this sort..rarefied sanitized air of gloomy reserved niceness about everything and everyone

i need a hug (

Sep 12 06 04:07 am Link

Photographer

studio L

Posts: 1775

Oakland, California, US

oldguysrule wrote:

lol... let's talk when you're out of diapers *wink

i'll schedule that o'sensai (right here in the green can at my feet that contains all such arrogant detritus), lord knows i'll never make it out of the diapers you've dressed me in though...so don't hold your (limited) breath old man, it could prove fatal in your condition *double wink*

Sep 12 06 01:15 pm Link

Model

Mistriss de morte

Posts: 620

Wilmington, Delaware, US

i've only hugged photogs (they've only hugged me) after a absolutly terrific shoot, and with photogs I'll be working with again and again. The rest have been handshakes. but i like hugs, especially after a terrific shoot!!

Sep 12 06 01:19 pm Link

Photographer

studio L

Posts: 1775

Oakland, California, US

Wynd Mulysa wrote:
This thread is the reason I am sometimes really awkward when parting with someone - No matter how much I know them.
What's the big deal about a hug?!

not a thing in the world, if two parties desire it

and plenty when one doesn't

I fail to see what is hard to understand about that

(it's that imperfect: "do unto others as others would have you do unto them..." thing they started teaching in kindegarten)

Sep 12 06 01:19 pm Link

Photographer

studio L

Posts: 1775

Oakland, California, US

jonathan ledeux wrote:

you do what you feel comfortable with, your space should always be respected

well said.

Sep 12 06 01:22 pm Link

Photographer

studio L

Posts: 1775

Oakland, California, US

Andrei Ku wrote:
i'm in seattle

no hugs here or anything of this sort..rarefied sanitized air of gloomy reserved niceness about everything and everyone

i need a hug (

haha, how about a "cool avatar!" instead?

Sep 12 06 01:22 pm Link

Photographer

studio L

Posts: 1775

Oakland, California, US

MsHeidi wrote:
I just gotta say i allways hug..family, friends and photographers!

pick me pick me pick me!

Sep 12 06 01:22 pm Link

Model

MsHeidi

Posts: 2081

Jessheim, Akershus, Norway

haha!

smile

Sep 12 06 01:25 pm Link

Photographer

studio L

Posts: 1775

Oakland, California, US

Miz Beth wrote:
i've only hugged photogs (they've only hugged me) after a absolutly terrific shoot, and with photogs I'll be working with again and again. The rest have been handshakes. but i like hugs, especially after a terrific shoot!!

o pick me pick me pick me...i do terrific shoots! (smile)

Sep 12 06 01:25 pm Link

Photographer

Nelia

Posts: 2166

San Francisco, California, US

I have hugged several models after a shoot, but they are always the one to initiate the hugging.   I normally extend my hand for a handshake as we are wrapping up the shoot and have had several models hug me instead.

I do not ever want to do anything that might give the model(s) an impression of me not being totally professional at all times.    As a rule, I always tell the model, whether or not they are nude, before I touch them to move into a pose. I do not think I would even consider hugging a model while they were nude, it would make me feel too awkward.

There are several models that I have become friends with, and I am much more comfortable hugging them, but again, never while they were nude.  I’m am not uptight, I just want to keep this on a totally professional level at all times.

Sep 12 06 01:32 pm Link

Photographer

studio L

Posts: 1775

Oakland, California, US

MsHeidi wrote:
haha!

smile

(sniff) laughed at in my first attempt at personal therapy to overcome my "uptightness", oh what a cruel world it surely is! (smile)

Sep 12 06 01:45 pm Link

Photographer

David Velez

Posts: 626

New York, New York, US

Hugging is something I do on a model/crew by model/crew basis.
Upon first meeting it's not usually done but after working together for hours and coming out with great work and having fun etc a hug at the end is no biggie and is welcome by all. I don't initiate but I will also not be rude.
There is another hug and that is when meeting with someone who is of a certain culture that has not only hugging but the kissing on the cheek. Sometimes it's only one kiss, other times it may be 3-4 times alternating.
If the people want to wave goodbye from the other side of the room and leave that's fine with me but sometimes they will come right to me and give a hug and kiss which is also fine as it represents a personal thanks and goodbye on both parts. It goes for guys too not just women.
David 6of7

Sep 12 06 01:47 pm Link

Photographer

Adams Photography

Posts: 177

Eufaula, Alabama, US

I hug when it is initiated by the model.

Sep 12 06 01:56 pm Link

Photographer

DanPhoto

Posts: 121

Tampa, Florida, US

DigitalCMH wrote:
Good question with a not a good answer I guess...I can only provide my own experience/opinions.

Women like to hug!  So because of that, I never know WHAT to do.  Soooo, I play it safe.  I'll either stand there say, "So long have a good day, blah blah" or i'll even put my hand out for a shake.  The vast majority of these turning into hugs initiated by the model.

So yeah, I'm a hugger, but only because they make me.

I feel the same. usually after you have worked together then it becomes a friendship thing. I personnaly like hugs but I will extend a handshake and usually if the shoot went great the model will give you a hug.  This to me is a sign of showing appreciation for the effort we put in to create great images.  Again it all depends on your culture and heritage. If you background is from the mediterranean region its commond.  I remember going over seas and even my male relatives would hug and kiss me on both cheeks. I was a bit spectacle but realized its a common thing. So If you get a simple hug it just means you both clicked and the shoot went well. Which means you should have goo/great images.

Sep 12 06 01:59 pm Link

Photographer

UnoMundo

Posts: 47532

Olympia, Washington, US

Melissa Lynnette wrote:
I assure you I do not wet the bed.  And why do I have issues because I don't expect to be hugged everytime I do a shoot?

Ok, so the plastic sheets are backdrops ?  You need a support hug. Do bedwetters have a special hug ?


simple: If my chest is bigger than yours I shake your hand.

Sep 12 06 02:00 pm Link