Photographer

Curt at photoworks

Posts: 31812

Riverside, California, US

Curt Burgess wrote:
DAMN!!

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You're harshing my mellow!

Iris Swope wrote:
harshing my mellow???????????

this just so makes me want to hug you!

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From urbandictionary.com...

1. When someone takes away from your high, or tries to be cool by fucking with you when you are buzzed. What happens when a nancy (see Nancy) brings down your elated feelings while high.

Dude, you're really harshin' my mellow.

2.    harshing my mellow   
   
Bringing down my good mood.

I didn't like her.. she was really harshing my mellow, man.
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Def 2 most appropriate, but we all respect that it evolved from Def #1
wink

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Sep 11 06 12:15 pm Link

Photographer

Northwest Fashion

Posts: 13

Seattle, Washington, US

I am a hugger.  Probably 90% of all of my shoots end up in a hug.  I think it has become socially acceptable.  Body language is pretty easy to read.  I know when a model doesn't feel comfortable with a hug and those times I practice restraint.

Sep 11 06 12:19 pm Link

Makeup Artist

inese

Posts: 243

Los Angeles, California, US

If your boss hugs you and he is a male that's sexual harassement . If you in a corporate enviroment. But you in a fashion biz now so hug hug, kiss,kiss (I mean air kisses)is a part of it,so lighten up, I am foreigner that was add for me  too I learned to except it as a part of a culture.I work with the photographer and he hugs his clients I hug mine we all hug:) No one is really doing it for some perverted reasons .So don't worry or wear a Tee with this slogan"Sorry I don't Hug after or before The Photoshoot" smile you'll be safe than:)

Sep 11 06 12:22 pm Link

Photographer

Curt at photoworks

Posts: 31812

Riverside, California, US

Iris Swope wrote:
I'm gonna go start a "Prettiest Boys on MM" thread. actually someone else should start it, so it's not so obvious

Iris  - did you mean start a "Prettiest Boys on MM and their evil escorts" thread?

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Just wondering...

Sep 11 06 12:23 pm Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

Curt Burgess wrote:
Iris  - did you mean start a "Prettiest Boys on MM and their evil escorts" thread?

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Just wondering...


Whoops! Almost forgot!

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No, no escorts...we can make perv jokes about them once we get the thread going though smile

Kinda like the "I'd kill to shoot that Girl" thread

inese wrote:
So don't worry or wear a Tee with this slogan"Sorry I don't Hug after or before The Photoshoot" smile you'll be safe than:)

I once was going to make a sign that said "Please don't touch me" to set at my desk at work. Because this one dude always messed with me. Then I realised, it only bothered my because I was in such a foul mood.

Sep 11 06 12:27 pm Link

Model

MelissaLynnette LaDiva

Posts: 50816

Leawood, Kansas, US

inese wrote:
If your boss hugs you and he is a male that's sexual harassement . If you in a corporate enviroment. But you in a fashion biz now so hug hug, kiss,kiss (I mean air kisses)is a part of it,so lighten up, I am foreigner that was add for me  too I learned to except it as a part of a culture.I work with the photographer and he hugs his clients I hug mine we all hug:) No one is really doing it for some perverted reasons .So don't worry or wear a Tee with this slogan"Sorry I don't Hug after or before The Photoshoot" smile you'll be safe than:)

I like tee shirts. big_smile And I didn't start this cuz I think they're perverted, it just kept catching me off guard.  Random bursts of emotion aren't something I'm familiar with.

Sep 11 06 12:30 pm Link

Photographer

Cassandra Panek

Posts: 1569

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

i'm such the hugger, if i liked the model. not in that romantic sense, but in that "you wanna stick around and grab a coffee?" sense. big_smile  I've become friends with a handful of my models because they were just too awesome.

and i guess it's a girly thing.

Sep 11 06 12:32 pm Link

Photographer

Curt at photoworks

Posts: 31812

Riverside, California, US

Curt Burgess wrote:
Melissa has inspired me!

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Hugs for everyone!

Melissa Lynnette wrote:
Keep em coming Curt.  I might even start initiating hugs.

There is nothing as gratifying as having an impact on today's youth!

wink

Sep 11 06 12:32 pm Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

Melissa Lynnette wrote:

I like tee shirts. big_smile And I didn't start this cuz I think they're perverted, it just kept catching me off guard.  Random bursts of emotion aren't something I'm familiar with.

We've ran away with your thread....

But really, on reality shows, everytime they leave the room. They hug! or cry...

Sep 11 06 12:34 pm Link

Model

A BRITT PRO-AM

Posts: 7840

CARDIFF BY THE SEA, California, US

Well, Gary maybe reserved (that's his story) but he's a guy
lol
As an English woman I am used to hugs and kisses ... and actually  kisses on both cheeks more common than hugs - especially by the time you have spent time with people as a goodbye
One kiss on cheek is actually more intimate than 2
and in Europe 3 is friendly and 4 is very friendly  but 2 is just usual

as a goodbye id give 2
but not as a hello - unless you are friends

Yup this prob wouldnt happen if the business were banking
;-)
but where the job at hand is creative or involves any personal connection then by the end  . . . unless they are really prickly or weird

Sep 11 06 12:35 pm Link

Photographer

SLE Photography

Posts: 68937

Orlando, Florida, US

Melvin Moten Jr wrote:
I concur.  Usually the model is the initiator of the hug...But it may just be that they're so glad i finally untied them.

It's not gratitude,they're light headed from you leaving them hanging upside down for so long.

Sep 11 06 12:40 pm Link

Model

MelissaLynnette LaDiva

Posts: 50816

Leawood, Kansas, US

Anjel Britt wrote:
Well, Gary maybe reserved (that's his story) but he's a guy
lol
As an English woman I am used to hugs and kisses ... and actually  kisses on both cheeks more common than hugs - especially by the time you have spent time with people as a goodbye
One kiss on cheek is actually more intimate than 2
and in Europe 3 is friendly and 4 is very friendly  but 2 is just usual

as a goodbye id give 2
but not as a hello - unless you are friends

Yup this prob wouldnt happen if the business were banking
;-)
but where the job at hand is creative or involves any personal connection then by the end  . . . unless they are really prickly or weird

How do Europeans get anything done with all that kissing?  Goodness.  I'd melt.

Sep 11 06 12:42 pm Link

Photographer

Robert Winn Photography

Posts: 2097

Virginia Beach, Virginia, US

Anjel Britt wrote:
Well, Gary maybe reserved (that's his story) but he's a guy
lol
As an English woman I am used to hugs and kisses ... and actually  kisses on both cheeks more common than hugs - especially by the time you have spent time with people as a goodbye
One kiss on cheek is actually more intimate than 2
and in Europe 3 is friendly and 4 is very friendly  but 2 is just usual

as a goodbye id give 2
but not as a hello - unless you are friends

Yup this prob wouldnt happen if the business were banking
;-)
but where the job at hand is creative or involves any personal connection then by the end  . . . unless they are really prickly or weird

Uh Oh... I might have done too many kisses or not enough hugs or I DON'T KNOW... does this come in an "Idiots Guide To European Hugs and Kisses" version? I would hate to mess up and accidentally propose to someone.

Sep 11 06 12:45 pm Link

Photographer

Benjamen McGuire

Posts: 3991

Portland, Oregon, US

I never initiate it unless we've hugged before but almost all the people I've photographed have hugged/kissed me after a shoot.

Sep 11 06 12:45 pm Link

Photographer

studio L

Posts: 1775

Oakland, California, US

Melissa Lynnette wrote:
Maybe this only happens to me, but what is up with photographers hugging me after a shoot that goes well?  My boss doesn't hug me when he lands a big important client.  My old boss never hugged me when.....oh wait, she did, but she was my aunt.  Ok, bad example.  But what I'm wondering is:  How many photographers are huggers?

Agreed-at least in western (or is that eastern?) culture, it is damn creepy.

But you know what, models do it too.

Me? Hugging is intensely personal, I reserve it as a special display/gesture/experience for kittens (that don't seem to mind), my dog (who can't get enough), and an intimate female companion (who might slug me if I don't reciprocate).

As for the clowns that do it for the reasons your core might suspect-I say the public stocks for them!

Sep 11 06 12:55 pm Link

Photographer

theglorybox

Posts: 70

London, England, United Kingdom

Melissa Lynnette wrote:
Maybe this only happens to me, but what is up with photographers hugging me after a shoot that goes well?  My boss doesn't hug me when he lands a big important client.  My old boss never hugged me when.....oh wait, she did, but she was my aunt.  Ok, bad example.  But what I'm wondering is:  How many photographers are huggers?

Your boss doesn't hug you.... maybe it's only mine that does it then.... now you've got me seriously worried.

I'm sometimes a hugger, sometimes not depends on the model.

Sep 11 06 12:56 pm Link

Photographer

Christopher Hartman

Posts: 54196

Buena Park, California, US

Stan Schutze wrote:
Licking, drooling and nibbling is different

You have all the luck!

Sep 11 06 12:57 pm Link

Photographer

studio L

Posts: 1775

Oakland, California, US

bang bang photo wrote:

I think it's a California thing. When I lived in San Diego, I'd say well over half the models would give me a hug at the end of a shoot. Here In NY, it almost never happens.

True story-it is very california (ma home state).

Sep 11 06 12:57 pm Link

Photographer

studio L

Posts: 1775

Oakland, California, US

Dee wrote:
No hugging for me...I like my personal space....LOL

Precisely.

Sep 11 06 12:57 pm Link

Photographer

studio L

Posts: 1775

Oakland, California, US

Christopher Bush wrote:

it's not a california thing.  people hug like crazy in ny.

I think the poster was referring to males and females....not males and males. (smile)

Sep 11 06 12:58 pm Link

Photographer

Bruce Talbot

Posts: 3850

Los Angeles, California, US

Puh-leeze! 

Fully accredited in such feely behavior -

can and will,

randomly dispense hugs,

in no less than,

oodles of languages.

rookies anyhow.............

bt

Sep 11 06 01:10 pm Link

Photographer

oldguysrule

Posts: 6129

i hug everyone who's soul i have stolen.

if you spent the shoot worrying about what was showing or wasn't, worrying about looking good, etc and gave me nothing then you can count on a handshake or a wave goodbye from across the room and a DNU beside your name in the files.

oh... and please don't go to europe. they tend to really hug alot there, and they kiss people they just met on the cheek and shit. scary!. you're probably best off in asia or other touching-is-a-no-no cultures.

Sep 11 06 01:19 pm Link

Model

MelissaLynnette LaDiva

Posts: 50816

Leawood, Kansas, US

theglorybox wrote:

Your boss doesn't hug you.... maybe it's only mine that does it then.... now you've got me seriously worried.

To be perfectly honest, my boss is hot and I wouldn't mind if he felt like hugging me.  big_smile  But that's completely different. big_smile

Sep 11 06 01:20 pm Link

Photographer

Rich Mohr

Posts: 1843

Chicago, Illinois, US

Melissa Lynnette wrote:
Maybe this only happens to me, but what is up with photographers hugging me after a shoot that goes well?  My boss doesn't hug me when he lands a big important client.  My old boss never hugged me when.....oh wait, she did, but she was my aunt.  Ok, bad example.  But what I'm wondering is:  How many photographers are huggers?

Maybe it's just a mid-west thing but I always hug. To me it's a bit more personal than just a handshake...

Rich

Sep 11 06 01:26 pm Link

Photographer

Fotticelli

Posts: 12252

Rockville, Maryland, US

Definetely a hugger you stiff Anglos!

Hug-haters go on my black list.

Sep 11 06 01:30 pm Link

Photographer

studio L

Posts: 1775

Oakland, California, US

oldguysrule wrote:
i hug everyone who's soul i have stolen.

if you spent the shoot worrying about what was showing or wasn't, worrying about looking good, etc and gave me nothing then you can count on a handshake or a wave goodbye from across the room and a DNU beside your name in the files.

oh... and please don't go to europe. they tend to really hug alot there, and they kiss people they just met on the cheek and shit. scary!. you're probably best off in asia or other touching-is-a-no-no cultures.

and there's the rub....it ain't about you see, it's about the other person...to fail to take the other person's comfort zone into the equation is just, well, so american!

and i don't care what country you are in, or how old you are (smile)

Sep 11 06 02:07 pm Link

Photographer

studio L

Posts: 1775

Oakland, California, US

Melissa Lynnette wrote:

To be perfectly honest, my boss is hot and I wouldn't mind if he felt like hugging me.  big_smile  But that's completely different. big_smile

precisely.

and that difference is key.

(btw-i just sent this to your boss, and he thanked me....you've received a promotion!)

Sep 11 06 02:08 pm Link

Photographer

UnoMundo

Posts: 47532

Olympia, Washington, US

Melissa has issues. She still wets the bed, so dont expect emotional warmth.

I am hugging Iris before the shoot !

Sep 11 06 02:41 pm Link

Model

PlusModelNikki

Posts: 1196

Pontiac, Michigan, US

Dee wrote:
No hugging for me...I like my personal space....LOL

Hey now! Hmm didnt I hug you? I'm sure I did, cause I remember bending down several feet to hug your short self! :-P Hehehe Love you though!

I'm a hugger!  Sometimes, I'm not sure what to do.  I've hugged, and I've shaked hands.  Whichever works.  Most of the photographers are pretty friendly, they hug me and shake my bf's hand!

Sep 11 06 02:44 pm Link

Photographer

MMDesign

Posts: 18647

Louisville, Kentucky, US

I mug all of my models. How do you think I afford the studio?

Edit: Hugging!!? I'm sorry. Ignore above.

Sep 11 06 02:49 pm Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

UnoMundo Photography wrote:
Melissa has issues. She still wets the bed, so dont expect emotional warmth.

I am hugging Iris before the shoot !

I'm gonna have a bad rep now smile

Sep 11 06 02:52 pm Link

Photographer

TonyKorleonePhotoVideo

Posts: 504

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

I just assume a model does not wish to hug me after a shoot. In fact I have shot with CJ Belle for 6 years and we just go eat after.... it's no shock to either of us that we came up with good pics ... hugging would be for perhaps: "Wow , I'm sure glad I did not F_ck up your trade for prints" , or "Sh_t, sorry Hun , we ain't getting into that magazine with these shots , keep your chin up", or "hate to break it to you but I just wiped the CF card clean before I downloaded the 500 images" or "I got to hug ya before you put all the clothes back on" ... NOPE , I just don't like the hug if I don't know ya. There is nothing wrong with it for you all though, I think she should lighten up and worry about a rude thing rather than something sooo benign though.

Sep 11 06 02:55 pm Link

Photographer

Kentsoul

Posts: 9739

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

SLE Photography wrote:

It's not gratitude,they're light headed from you leaving them hanging upside down for so long.

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Sep 11 06 02:55 pm Link

Photographer

dgold

Posts: 10302

Pawtucket, Rhode Island, US

I prefer, following a great shoot and collaboration, to kiss on both cheeks
as a show of thank you and genuine admiration.
...I guess I have a little Italian and French blood!

So, c'mon, loosen up, it's okay to show affection and graditude without all of the baggage you want to bring to the table.

Sep 11 06 03:00 pm Link

Photographer

studio L

Posts: 1775

Oakland, California, US

Dee wrote:
Most of the photographers are pretty friendly, they hug me and shake my bf's hand!

it's when they hug your boyfriend and shake your hand that you really have to start worrying.....

Sep 11 06 03:06 pm Link

Photographer

Taurus Artworks

Posts: 44

Wilmington, Delaware, US

Tony Korleone wrote:
I just assume a model does not wish to hug me after a shoot. In fact I have shot with CJ Belle for 6 years and we just go eat after.... ... There is nothing wrong with it for you all though, I think she should lighten up and worry about a rude thing rather than something sooo benign though.

You should give CJ a hug, it's long overdue...

Sep 11 06 03:09 pm Link

Photographer

studio L

Posts: 1775

Oakland, California, US

dgold wrote:
I prefer, following a great shoot and collaboration, to kiss on both cheeks
as a show of thank you and genuine admiration.
...I guess I have a little Italian and French blood!

So, c'mon, loosen up, it's okay to show affection and graditude without all of the baggage you want to bring to the table.

You know, you're absolutely right!

And from your premise's logical extension-from now on I am going to have 3 children with every model I shoot, and their mother's as well.

Spread the love baby....

Sep 11 06 03:09 pm Link

Photographer

J O H N A L L A N

Posts: 12221

Los Angeles, California, US

Melissa Lynnette wrote:
Maybe this only happens to me, but what is up with photographers hugging me after a shoot that goes well?  My boss doesn't hug me when he lands a big important client.  My old boss never hugged me when.....oh wait, she did, but she was my aunt.  Ok, bad example.  But what I'm wondering is:  How many photographers are huggers?

I think you are way overthinking this. It's just a hug - a nice generic form of affection.
I know we compare modeling to conventional employment for many things, but the truth is that it's a bit more intimate.

John

Sep 11 06 03:11 pm Link

Photographer

Mickle Design Werks

Posts: 5967

Washington, District of Columbia, US

Being raised in the South, I'm a hugger.

Handshakes are way to formal and I like to think that I've made a friend. It especially wierd after you have just shot intimate images with a model, especially nudes.

Hug can be an informally formal; its all in the way its delivered.

If the model sticks out her hand I will shake it but do a hand hug by placing my hand over hers.

Male models get  the soul brother shake and pow hug.

Female models get the high hug (chest to chest ample body space, hand no lower than the mid to top of thier back)

Family and good friends gets the bear hug may be with a lift.

Where hugs get confusing is when people do the rub thing as I consider that flirting to a degree.

I hate the pat on the back hugs, I feel its patonizing and feels to much like you are petting your dog or cat.

Sep 11 06 03:24 pm Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

Mickle Design Werks wrote:
Being raised in the South, I'm a hugger.


Male models get  the soul brother shake and pow hug.

Female models get the high hug (chest to chest ample body space, hand no lower than the mid to top of thier back)

I hate the pat on the back hugs, I feel its patonizing and feels to much like you are petting your dog or cat.

See, that's were I went wrong. The guy got the hand below the beltline... lol

and I do the pat on the back hug too... kinda tap on the back like you're trying to get rid of them...

I need some lessons on normal human interaction....

Sep 11 06 03:32 pm Link