Robert Voltaire wrote:
I was shooting with a model on a beach-I am a little on the hot side as far as looks go   ; ) -and I had a makeup artist and assistant with me.  The girl wasn't conveying much emotionally so I decided to give her a little direction.  I asked her to pretend that she hadn't seen her boyfriend in a year because he was away in Iraq.  I wanted her to get a mental picture of this person and then to look at me and whisper what she was feeling.  (ie. i love you.  i miss you dearly)  At that moment the sun was peeking out from behind a cloud and there were rays of light everywhere.  Ahhh, she transformed into an angel.  Then there was silence.  Her eyes met mine and she whispered, "I want you to f@#k me up the a##."

The crew and I froze in disbelief.  We all heard it and she didn't stop talking that way.  She continued.

What do you say?

Maybe "you have a juicy ass"  hahaha

No it would certainly be more appropriate to tell herP: "go f*ck yourself and don't mess up the makeup"


I didn't get the line with juicy ass... I have a juicy ass if I ate something bad. How can that be a compliment/pickup line?

UnoMundo Photography wrote:

Now that we ( males and female )  have agreed that Sara has a juicy ass, is the issue timing ?  Ahzure is juicy mama herslf, is she seting a double standard ? NO!

I work with a lot of beginning models and you have to tell them they are beautiful to get some level of confidence going.

It is in the presentation. If you give compliments with your pants down,  or with a corncob in your pants or with that doggie-saw-bone look then you will get a bad response.

"You have a really wonderful body " is worlds away from " geez, look at that ass, gimme a bite".

So models you ARE gorgeous and sexy , you will on occasion excite a photographer but we won't lose control and behave like frat boys when you take your clothes off.

I try to take it a step further and instead of telling the model she has a beautiful body, etc. I tell her what beuatiful images I think we are creating.  Since I have got the notebook PC, we can now take a break during the shoot and I can show her the images.  I think it better to compliment her work than to compliment her, which could be misconstrued.

IvanSHarris wrote:
damn it...One model thought I was GAY because I didn't say anything...WHAT the hell...lol I mean I am a professional here....

That has happened to me also. Just because I did not make a move on one of my favorite models that I have worked with for years. She just last month told me she thought I was gay. I just don't mix girlfriends and my work together. It's all over when that happens. Work is work..

Mike

Rick Hughes Photography wrote:
Ya know cracks me up? The whole daddy syndrome.

You know the guy I am talking about. The guy that hugs the girls, adjusts her underwear during a shoot and hangs in the dressing room when the girls are naked and says "It's ok. It's different with me. They know I am ok." Five minutes later the girl is coming to me and saying "He is so creepy. I mean he is nice and all, but why is he always touching me and hugging me? Does he HAVE to stay in the dressing room?" You aren't different. You are being used. Wise up. You are an old perv to them and they are just taking the presents...lol.

Rick,
I thought we were never going to talk about this again. You said you were not going to mention this to anyone... see if I ever come to your photoshoots again!!! I did get rid of the ''who's your daddy bling necklace'' as you suggested. And I got my sweat glands fixed... but that was all part of the deal you were never going to bring this up publicly.

You whore...

::r::

UIPHOTOS wrote:
I am really clinical when I shoot, so the amount of clothes doesnt change that.. So there are photogs with stories as well.. I too KNOW other photogs who dont miss those opportunities..

Geez Harold, you know what that makes you?  A professional.  It's always nice to hear that there are a few left. 

John Jebbia wrote:

Wow!

A good model friend of mine told me this story:

Basically, she was shooting with this guy and she was laying on one of those psychologist style couches.. The photographer asked her to close her eyes which she did.. But it got quiet for a long time and she opened them to find him standing above her rubbing one out.

She didn't freak out. She didn't run off screaming. She played it cool and said something like "Want me to help you out? Put it in my hand." Which he promptly did.

She gripped the mother fucker so hard he couldn't escape. All he could do is stand there screaming. She dragged his screaming ass all over the house then up and down the street yelling obscenities at him in front of all of his neighbors.

She knows who she is. She's probably reading this. She's probably laughing. Way to go!

Way to go Jebbia!  That good red ale that just went through my nose will never be the same again.  And man does it sting!

Damn, that is officially the funniest thing I've ever read on MM.

Christine Summers wrote:
At one shoot my photog got a hard on at least 5 times throughout the shoot, and I don't do nudes...I was fully dressed, and creeped out.

I have to ask...what were you doing that caused you to obsessively look at his crotch enough to notice?  And keep count.

And unless he was in swim trunks or is nicknamed "Kielbasa", I don't see how you would tell.

John Fisher wrote:
"One time when I first got to Paris, the agency set me up with this really famous photographer to shoot an editorial for French "ELLE". I was so excited, just being in the studio was a rush! I was up at the front of the studio, and when I turned around, there the guy stood with his pants down around his ankles! It was so gross!"

The young girl and the visiting photographer are now sitting there with their mouths agape.

"Did you leave immediately?", the young girl from Seattle finally asked.

"Well, I should have.......... but it WAS for French "ELLE", she answered.

"Was it for the cover?", I asked.

"Why John, if it had been for the cover, I wouldn't have thought he was so gross!"

Reminds me of an old joke.

Man walks into a bar and sees a beautiful woman.

"Excuse me," he says, "But would you have sex with me for a million dollars?"

"Sure!" she exclaims.

"Would you have sex with me for $10?"

Insulted, she scoffs, "No! What do you think I am?!"

"Honey, we've already established that. Now, we're just haggling over price."

Ahzure wrote:

No candy for you.  Photographers and models aren't f*ck buddies in my book.

Who ever said anything about “F*ck buddies”! That’s like so 90’s! Drop the “buddies” part and have some fun! Anyways I’m innocent of ever saying or doing anything inappropriate at a photo shoot. I mean you can’t get down and take pictures at the same time. Well not at my age at least!

Can I have some candy now! LOL!

Daniel Schmidtka wrote:

Who ever said anything about “F*ck buddies”! That’s like so 90’s! Drop the “buddies” part and have some fun! Anyways I’m innocent of ever saying or doing anything inappropriate at a photo shoot. I mean you can’t get down and take pictures at the same time. Well not at my age at least!

Can I have some candy now! LOL!

You need some Jesus Juice instead.  Take the whole bottle!!!

SKPhoto wrote:

I have to ask...what were you doing that caused you to obsessively look at his crotch enough to notice?  And keep count.

And unless he was in swim trunks or is nicknamed "Kielbasa", I don't see how you would tell.

It was surprisingly obvious...esp. since he made me sit down all the time.  Hey if I was a guy I would make sure my package was secured.

Christine Summers wrote:

It was surprisingly obvious...esp. since he made me sit down all the time.  Hey if I was a guy I would make sure my package was secured.

Yep, nothing like a secure package, I always say.

Rick Hughes Photography wrote:
Ya know cracks me up? The whole daddy syndrome. I run into this all the time. What is with the older photographer "taking care" of the younger models he is around and playing the daddy role?
You want to be different? You want to make a girl feel safe, secure and ok with you? Get your ass out of the dressing room! Wait outside. She can show you the outfit before and after she is in it. Seeing her in the process of changing is not going to help you shoot her better. Stop hugging her and touching her with that level of intimacy. When she says it is ok it still isn't! She just wants more clothes! ;-) She is choking back the gag and accepting the gifts and everyone can see what is going on but the "daddy" doing the hugging.

You can't see it but I'm cheering you on now Rick Excellent post!

E|||B wrote:
Oh, this thread again ...


Reminds me of an old joke.

Man walks into a bar and sees a beautiful woman.

"Excuse me," he says, "But would you have sex with me for a million dollars?"

"Sure!" she exclaims.

"Would you have sex with me for $10?"

Insulted, she scoffs, "No! What do you think I am?!"

"Honey, we've already established that. Now, we're just haggling over price."

It's better when you know the joke was created by a drunken winston churchill

Kelly Kooper wrote:
Hehe there should be a thread on horny models too. Photographers aren't the only ones who get 'excited'. If you're aiming for that sexier kind of look, sometimes you can get a bit carried away (I'm purely talking with regards to your thoughts, not actions) but as someone else said, it's how you handle it that determines your professionalism. There's nothing wrong with a normal human reaction that only confirms that what you are shooting is working on the most basic level. Although my reaction to your problem might be more low key because I haven't had a problem in ages so I might have just forgotten what that was like as well.....

Haha do I make you horny baby?  Do I?  Do I make you randy?

Christine Summers wrote:

It was surprisingly obvious...esp. since he made me sit down all the time.  Hey if I was a guy I would make sure my package was secured.

Never take Viagra before a shoot !

John Fisher wrote:


A long time ago in ....well, it was when I had my studio in DC, so a long time ago. Anyway a new face from Seattle had come to town to shoot with me and as luck would have it, a young photographer from upstate NY was also visiting. I got a call from an English model I had started years ago, she was back in the States and invited me down to her place in Fredericksburg. So we all packed up and drove down for lunch (long set up, but a great story! Have patience!)

We are all sitting around talking and the English girl is showing us her portfolio which had a couple on terrific fashion nudes in it (she worked the big circuit, Europe and New York). The new face from Seattle asked about the pictures and if she felt comfortable shooting them. Yadda yadda yadda, part of the business, what ever. Anyway, the young girl then asked her if anything "unpleasant" happened during a shoot, and she said: (finally I get to the story!)

"One time when I first got to Paris, the agency set me up with this really famous photographer to shoot an editorial for French "ELLE". I was so excited, just being in the studio was a rush! I was up at the front of the studio, and when I turned around, there the guy stood with his pants down around his ankles! It was so gross!"

The young girl and the visiting photographer are now sitting there with their mouths agape.

"Did you leave immediately?", the young girl from Seattle finally asked.

"Well, I should have.......... but it WAS for French "ELLE", she answered.

"Was it for the cover?", I asked.

"Why John, if it had been for the cover, I wouldn't have thought he was so gross!"

(Real) Life in the Food Chain.

John
--
John Fisher
900 West Avenue, Suite 423
Miami Beach, Florida  33139
305 534-9322
http://www.johnfisher.com

Are you saying the British model copulated with (I don't want to use the street term here) that photographer so that she could do an editorial for French ELLE?

JAY carreon
PHOTOGRAPHER

UnoMundo Photography wrote:
Never take Viagra before a shoot !

I just had a shower after a work out (my first in ages)  I used Viagra shower gel and now I'm stiff all over :-)

uhu uhu he said stiff  (in a Beavis and Buthead voice)

gdsandy wrote:

I just had a shower after a work out (my first in ages)  I used Viagra shower gel and now I'm stiff all over :-)

uhu uhu he said stiff  (in a Beavis and Buthead voice)

I gotta ask - first shower in ages, or first workout in ages?  ;^P

Ahzure wrote:

You need some Jesus Juice instead.  Take the whole bottle!!!

I guess your right! I'll drink a couple at Phoenix Meet & Greet II - Fri, July 28th. Are you going?

Daniel Schmidtka wrote:
I guess your right! I'll drink a couple at Phoenix Meet & Greet II - Fri, July 28th. Are you going?

She went to the last one and was out of control

Kim Nicole wrote:
you can't NOT mention that disproportionately large thing tacked onto the back of me if I'm shooting nude

OK, im about to click your profile and see this thing you speak of........

John Jebbia wrote:

She went to the last one and was out of control

haha, that's my normal personality... (yes I bite)

Stanley wrote:
I'm 25, I hear that I am supposed to embrace my sexuality.

25!!! Boring!! We had a fire chief in Mesa embrace the neighbors sheep or lamb or something!!! LOL!!! Now that guy can party!

At 25 every guy out their embraces their sexuality. Just don't squeeze to hard!! LOL!

Just joking Stanley! Except for the fire dept guy, really happened!

Robert Voltaire wrote:
I was shooting with a model on a beach-I am a little on the hot side as far as looks go   ; ) -and I had a makeup artist and assistant with me.  The girl wasn't conveying much emotionally so I decided to give her a little direction.  I asked her to pretend that she hadn't seen her boyfriend in a year because he was away in Iraq.  I wanted her to get a mental picture of this person and then to look at me and whisper what she was feeling.  (ie. i love you.  i miss you dearly)  At that moment the sun was peeking out from behind a cloud and there were rays of light everywhere.  Ahhh, she transformed into an angel.  Then there was silence.  Her eyes met mine and she whispered, "I want you to f@#k me up the a##."

The crew and I froze in disbelief.  We all heard it and she didn't stop talking that way.  She continued.

What do you say?

John Fisher wrote:


A long time ago in ....well, it was when I had my studio in DC, so a long time ago. Anyway a new face from Seattle had come to town to shoot with me and as luck would have it, a young photographer from upstate NY was also visiting. I got a call from an English model I had started years ago, she was back in the States and invited me down to her place in Fredericksburg. So we all packed up and drove down for lunch (long set up, but a great story! Have patience!)

We are all sitting around talking and the English girl is showing us her portfolio which had a couple on terrific fashion nudes in it (she worked the big circuit, Europe and New York). The new face from Seattle asked about the pictures and if she felt comfortable shooting them. Yadda yadda yadda, part of the business, what ever. Anyway, the young girl then asked her if anything "unpleasant" happened during a shoot, and she said: (finally I get to the story!)

"One time when I first got to Paris, the agency set me up with this really famous photographer to shoot an editorial for French "ELLE". I was so excited, just being in the studio was a rush! I was up at the front of the studio, and when I turned around, there the guy stood with his pants down around his ankles! It was so gross!"

The young girl and the visiting photographer are now sitting there with their mouths agape.

"Did you leave immediately?", the young girl from Seattle finally asked.

"Well, I should have.......... but it WAS for French "ELLE", she answered.

"Was it for the cover?", I asked.

"Why John, if it had been for the cover, I wouldn't have thought he was so gross!"

(Real) Life in the Food Chain.

John
--
John Fisher
900 West Avenue, Suite 423
Miami Beach, Florida  33139
305 534-9322
http://www.johnfisher.com

Here's a funny story.  I tested with a model a few weeks ago.  She tells me about a test she shot with this New York photographer.  Midway through the shoot he sends everyone out for food - except for the model.  As she's posing, topless no less, he holds down her hands over her head and attempts to violate her.  Fortunately, she manages to squirm free.  Now this is an established, published photographer.  The experience traumatized her so badly - she quit modeling for a whole year.  She is now only recently rebuilding her book.  And with her look she should have been rubbing shoulders with Gemma Ward and Heather Marks at this point in her career - if only that hadn't happened.

So tell me, if you're not a part of the solution - are you not then part of the problem?  I'm not casting judgment on "flirting" or "workplace amore's" - I would love to marry a model too!  But sometimes it goes too far, way too far!

JAY carreon
PHOTOGRAPHER

Capt Stu Beans wrote:
I guess its time to come clean. after many years of photographing the A-List models, I can tell you I had sex with several of them, often times right in the middle of the set. I am ashamed of course, but well....heres the list...

Heidi Klum
Sung Hi Lee
Claudia Schiffer
Rebecca Romijn-Stamos
Naomi Campbell
James King
Cindy Crawford
Caprice Bourret
Laetitia Casta
Yamila Diaz
Elsa Benitez
Christy Turlington
Daniela Pestova
Adriana Sklenarikova
Angela Lindvall
Daisy Fuentes
Nadja Auermann
Gisele Bundchen
Victoria Silvstedt

O Captain, My Captain - aren't you forgetting:

Antonio Sabato Jr.
Marcus Schenkenberg
Mark Vanderloo
Michael Bergin
Tyson Beckford???

Best Regards,
JAY carreon
PHOTOGRAPHER

IvanSHarris wrote:
damn it...One model thought I was GAY because I didn't say anything...WHAT the hell...lol I mean I am a professional here....

i know, right?

it's like that one model that thought [b]i[/i] was gay just because i kept talking about having sex with men while we were shooting!

gdsandy wrote:
In England there is a saying.  "Don't screw the help".

I guess Jude Law didn't get that memo?

Dax wrote:

Well.. put!!

If the photographer is good looking.. then is not that much of a problem. I have been on shoots where.. I can see both sides. The reaction when the heavy set or bad looking or older photographer makes comments the girls cringe, and when the younger, good looking, fun photographers make similar comments the girls blush lol funny... Life.. what a joke!

so like, with all that being said, i can loose my somewhat clinical approach of how i do things and flirt it up a bit as long as i stay young and fit? and i won't be labled as a perv? no longer the cold fotographer that only is out after the final image that can be sold. i can actually start having some fun?

FKVPhotoGraphics wrote:

I worked in the corporate environment for eight years......and yes the trading does start early........

When I was in my 20's, looked fairly good, no grey hair I worked for an entertainment magazine....and sex was almost a given.....90% of the time from the prospective models side because they wanted to be on the cover or featured as one of our "Fox of The Month" girls......it got to be a real joke after a while....when I walked into any of the clubs we covered and the women found the "the guy from Nightlife is here".....first came the rush to the ladies room where there was frantic hair combing, lipstick and makeup spreading...then came the long walk past me to catch my eye.....just for fun I used to mess with my equipment and not look their way.....when they really wanted to be in the magazine.....sex was always offered.......ironically the women who finally appeared in the magazine....I never slept with......

Now.....I'm 50, grey hair and put on weight.....so what would happen now?.....doesn't take genius to figure it out.....I'd be that "perv" photographer.....

Not for nothing but the standards have DOUBLE written across them all the way......and that's a shame because talent doesn't have anything to do with looks when you're a photographer....

that's a very excellent point, pops. if this were a young man shooting then pervert wouldn't be on the list. but then again, these days, he might be a nut case. but alot of it depends on the model. some models do get caughtup with the looks too. some are surprised to see that some of us aren't old and grey.

I marvel at some of the models on here because many have this impression that a photographer is a old white guy as one had told me on the phone. i had to admit it was some funny shit. no, not just the old white guy part, but the stereotype that photographers aren't attractive.

I've seen some female photographers on that are fine and some are just as fine or finer than some of these female models. Damn, there is one on here who showed her face in the 'what do you photographers look like.'

Good thread because not only did the page showed that many of the photographers aren't white guys, it also displayed the different ethnicity of photographers on here including some fine female photographers.