Navid wrote:

poppycock.

Poppycock!! That's funny. Started my day with a good laugh!!

MaxwellIII wrote:

That is a funny saying, "starch in his shorts". The guy trying to put his head between your legs may have been trying to get back into the womb.

I like the image of you topless walking on stage in front of a crowd of horny men. Could there be any connection between you wanting to tease and the starch in the guys shorts?

I'm sorry honey, what profession are you in?

That's called a fashion show. The audience members are not claiming to be professionals. I was not attempting to arouse the photographer when he made his little comment.

The thread creator asked for stories about pervy photogs, so I contributed mine. Do you have a problem with that? I am a model, I like attention. I am not a porn "actress". There's a difference. If people want to get aroused by me, that's fine. But if it's in a professional situation, I act professionally and I expect the photographer to do the same.

Dax wrote:
Well.. put!!

If the photographer is good looking.. then is not that much of a problem. I have been on shoots where.. I can see both sides. The reaction when the heavy set or bad looking or older photographer makes comments the girls cringe, and when the younger, good looking, fun photographers make similar comments the girls blush lol funny... Life.. what a joke!

That's funny, I am a heavy set, bad looking, older photographer and I have seen just the opposite, I have seen girls cringe when silly little ''good looking'' boys make silly little rude and offensive comments. ''Fun photographers?'' Just because a man is younger does not make him ''FUN.''

There is no age, body build, nor looks preference on offending someone, it usually comes with a very selfish mind, nothing more. Ulterior motive is the foundation to being perverse; luring someone into a situation to accomplish an altogether different agenda than taking photos. If you want to shoot pictures then you really don't want to get into the girl's pants... if you want to get into her pants, then you really don't have any creative motivation photographically.

What we all do revolves a great deal around the subject of sex, if it is always done with ill intent then that is all you get... ill.

I personally like to have a fun and sexy time with the creative group and pulling great sexual energy from within the model has nothing to do with nailing her. Or even thinking that is priority. Hey, I would love to have sex with every model I photograph, and in a funny sort of way, I do... in fact, I have a different kind of sexual experience than any guy that actually touches her. She gives me her trust and deep emotions, her secrets, her inner being, and no one had to swap juices. I kind of like that form of perversion. And for an overweight, old, bad looking, dark, mysterious, bad boy photographer, I know there are quite a few young extremely beautiful models that like that perversity as well, they will trust me to the end. The creative results are far too rewarding, much greater and longer lasting than a moment of sweat and temporary satisfaction.

Short mindedness is the single worst perversion of all. Experience outweighs any other form of confidence there is... there are a lot of perverts out there, and there is no brand of body and looks that makes them unique. Just because you have a camera doesn't make you a photographer... just because you have a very creative, stimulating, dark, mysterious, fantasy filled, excited mind doesn't make you a pervert either. How you use both of these elements determines your character.

Robert

e-string wrote:
Well, there was the old guy who told me I gave him "starch in his shorts". He was a GWC and I was still kinda a beginner.

And then there was the guy who put his head between my legs. Luckily he didn't actually do anything right away and I was able to tell him to stop because I'm not single. He was not a GWC, just a jerk. I actually enjoyed the shoot until that point though.

Wow!

A good model friend of mine told me this story:

Basically, she was shooting with this guy and she was laying on one of those psychologist style couches.. The photographer asked her to close her eyes which she did.. But it got quiet for a long time and she opened them to find him standing above her rubbing one out.

She didn't freak out. She didn't run off screaming. She played it cool and said something like "Want me to help you out? Put it in my hand." Which he promptly did.

She gripped the mother fucker so hard he couldn't escape. All he could do is stand there screaming. She dragged his screaming ass all over the house then up and down the street yelling obscenities at him in front of all of his neighbors.

She knows who she is. She's probably reading this. She's probably laughing. Way to go!

John Jebbia wrote:

Wow!

A good model friend of mine told me this story:

Basically, she was shooting with this guy and she was laying on one of those psychologist style couches.. The photographer asked her to close her eyes which she did.. But it got quiet for a long time and she opened them to find him standing above her rubbing one out.

She didn't freak out. She didn't run off screaming. She played it cool and said something like "Want me to help you out? Put it in my hand." Which he promptly did.

She gripped the mother fucker so hard he couldn't escape. All he could do is stand there screaming. She dragged his screaming ass all over the house then up and down the street yelling obscenities at him in front of all of his neighbors.

She knows who she is. She's probably reading this. She's probably laughing. Way to go!

Oh my gosh, that's HILARIOUS! Wow.

Collin J. Rae wrote:
All I know is I was a peverted guy way before I was a perverted photographer, now I just get to document said perversion.

-The End-

What Colin said...But more importantly, I think it's just a little nutty that so many "models" expect to prance around in revealing outfits, sporting "come hither" expressions and not be greeted with the arousal in others that is only natural.  I've lost count of how many "models" have screenames with "sexy/sexi/sexay/sex14U" in them...It all sounds like the same old "have your cake and eat it too" double standard to me, but what do I know?

e-string wrote:

That's called a fashion show. The audience members are not claiming to be professionals. I was not attempting to arouse the photographer when he made his little comment.

The thread creator asked for stories about pervy photogs, so I contributed mine. Do you have a problem with that? I am a model, I like attention. I am not a porn "actress". There's a difference. If people want to get aroused by me, that's fine. But if it's in a professional situation, I act professionally and I expect the photographer to do the same.

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!! If that was a fashion show that you were walking on stage topless, what was it that you were suppose to be showing your audience?

I never said you are a porn actress, and I know we can all decide what makes a difference with anything. Nothing wrong with you wanting attention, everyone wants that.

It seems that the guy trying to climb back into your womb, would stop because you say, "No, I'm not single" would actually work, in the heat of the moment.

Nothing personal, just chatting along as we all like to do.

MaxwellIII wrote:

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!! If that was a fashion show that you were walking on stage topless, what was it that you were suppose to be showing your audience?

I never said you are a porn actress, and I know we can all decide what makes a difference with anything. Nothing wrong with you wanting attention, everyone wants that.

It seems that the guy trying to climb back into your womb, would stop because you say, "No, I'm not single" would actually work, in the heat of the moment.

Nothing personal, just chatting along as we all like to do.

It was a lingerie fashion show, and I was one of 2 models wearing boyshorts and body paint. (I have seen images of NYC runway shows for makeup companies where the models were ONLY wearing MU.)

The one who put his head between my legs asked me to do a few more things after I said no, but luckily he was not physically pushy and nothing happened as I told him no several more times.

MaxwellIII wrote:

This is a perfect saying to keep when working. Can any photographer imagine has fast they would be tossed out of the business if they started hitting on the model, with an art director, client, set designer, etc..

That photographer would not only be tossed out, he would not be working in the industry at that level any longer.

Now if the client wants to try and hit on the model, I think his company would have something to say about that.

So like the English say, "Don't screw the help"

Oh that's a load of crap...

Not that I condone pepole indiscriminantly hooking up on the job, but it happens ALL the time... You work within industry circles and it ultimately integrates into your social circles.  I've dated editors, a pr director, other photographers and...gasp...a model.

Telling someone where you want to lick them during a shoot is inappropriate and letcherous- asking someone out after a few drinks and a good conversation at a wrap party is utterly pedestrian.

Robert Sanders wrote:

That's funny, I am a heavy set, bad looking, older photographer and I have seen just the opposite, I have seen girls cringe when silly little ''good looking'' boys make silly little rude and offensive comments. ''Fun photographers?'' Just because a man is younger does not make him ''FUN.''

There is no age, body build, nor looks preference on offending someone, it usually comes with a very selfish mind, nothing more. Ulterior motive is the foundation to being perverse; luring someone into a situation to accomplish an altogether different agenda than taking photos. If you want to shoot pictures then you really don't want to get into the girl's pants... if you want to get into her pants, then you really don't have any creative motivation photographically.

What we all do revolves a great deal around the subject of sex, if it is always done with ill intent then that is all you get... ill.

I personally like to have a fun and sexy time with the creative group and pulling great sexual energy from within the model has nothing to do with nailing her. Or even thinking that is priority. Hey, I would love to have sex with every model I photograph, and in a funny sort of way, I do... in fact, I have a different kind of sexual experience than any guy that actually touches her. She gives me her trust and deep emotions, her secrets, her inner being, and no one had to swap juices. I kind of like that form of perversion. And for an overweight, old, bad looking, dark, mysterious, bad boy photographer, I know there are quite a few young extremely beautiful models that like that perversity as well, they will trust me to the end. The creative results are far too rewarding, much greater and longer lasting than a moment of sweat and temporary satisfaction.

Short mindedness is the single worst perversion of all. Experience outweighs any other form of confidence there is... there are a lot of perverts out there, and there is no brand of body and looks that makes them unique. Just because you have a camera doesn't make you a photographer... just because you have a very creative, stimulating, dark, mysterious, fantasy filled, excited mind doesn't make you a pervert either. How you use both of these elements determines your character.

Robert

Robert, you understand your business very well. I can very much relate to trying to pull the sensual side of a woman out of her. Some can do it, and others can't, and inbetween, there are women who think they are working with a pervert.

Hope every photographer and aspiring model can learn what the real difference it.

e-string wrote:
The one who put his head between my legs asked me to do a few more things after I said no, but luckily he was not physically pushy and nothing happened as I told him no several more times.

You should have told him:

"I wouldn't do that if I were you. I have chronic diahrea and I could spray at anytime."

John Jebbia wrote:

You should have told him:

"I wouldn't do that if I were you. I have chronic diahrea and I could spray at anytime."

haha. Problem was, he was actually quite attractive. Definitely a test of my loyalty to my boyfriend.

Justin N Lane wrote:

Oh that's a load of crap...

Not that I condone pepole indiscriminantly hooking up on the job, but it happens ALL the time... You work within industry circles and it ultimately integrates into your social circles.  I've dated editors, a pr director, other photographers and...gasp...a model.

Telling someone where you want to lick them during a shoot is inappropriate and letcherous- asking someone out after a few drinks and a good conversation at a wrap party is utterly pedestrian.

Nothing wrong with asking a model out after the shoot. Not many wrap parties that I know of after a shoot were all of the hired help gets to mix with each other. Everyone just goes home, because it was another day at work.

You may be in a different situation to ask a model out after a shoot, but you are probably with the in crowd.

John Jebbia wrote:

Wow!

A good model friend of mine told me this story:

Basically, she was shooting with this guy and she was laying on one of those psychologist style couches.. The photographer asked her to close her eyes which she did.. But it got quiet for a long time and she opened them to find him standing above her rubbing one out.

She didn't freak out. She didn't run off screaming. She played it cool and said something like "Want me to help you out? Put it in my hand." Which he promptly did.

She gripped the mother fucker so hard he couldn't escape. All he could do is stand there screaming. She dragged his screaming ass all over the house then up and down the street yelling obscenities at him in front of all of his neighbors.

She knows who she is. She's probably reading this. She's probably laughing. Way to go!

You not only are very creative with a camera, you are a fantastic story teller. The only part that you lost me on was when she pulled the guy out in front of his neighbors.

By that time, the guys little wee wee would have disconnected itself, but I think g-string believes it. She's a fashion model.

IvanSHarris wrote:
damn it...One model thought I was GAY because I didn't say anything...WHAT the hell...lol I mean I am a professional here....

Haha I get this one sometimes.  "  you did't hit on me, try to touch me, ask me out..I thought you were gay..."

Truth is... that really shows where their head is at.   They are so used to everyone hitting on them that when they come across a guy who respects there space... or even more surprising to them... someone who isn't interested in them... they automatically write it off as they are gay. 

Funny how a bruised ego turns you either into a bad guy or a gay guy but never a good guy.

MaxwellIII wrote:

Nothing wrong with asking a model out after the shoot. Not many wrap parties that I know of after a shoot were all of the hired help gets to mix with each other. Everyone just goes home, because it was another day at work.

You may be in a different situation to ask a model out after a shoot, but you are probably with the in crowd.

I wouldn't say "the in crowd" but I've been lucky in that a couple of the clients I  shoot for make up for their lowball day rates by springing for dinner, libations and rowdiness for all involved

I'd actually prefer a better day rate...

e-string wrote:

haha. Problem was, he was actually quite attractive. Definitely a test of my loyalty to my boyfriend.

It was certainly a test of your loyalty to hold back your inner sexual desires for the photographer, especially when you both knew, that it was more then just a photo shoot for both of you.

It was hot and grinding sex you both desired and lusted for from each other. WOW!! You really are very loyal to your boyfriend.

Robert Sanders wrote:

That's funny, I am a heavy set, bad looking, older photographer and I have seen just the opposite, I have seen girls cringe when silly little ''good looking'' boys make silly little rude and offensive comments. ''Fun photographers?'' Just because a man is younger does not make him ''FUN.''

Don't take it personal ;-) What part of " I have been on shoots where " didn't you get ?? I was giving MY own experience.. Where did I say: the rule is... only young good looking guys get the attention ?

Don't get all bent out of shape.. is only one person's opinion and like I said.. is not the rule, I bet you charm everyone no matter how good looking or bad looking u may be!

Robert Voltaire wrote:
I was shooting with a model on a beach-I am a little on the hot side as far as looks go   ; ) -and I had a makeup artist and assistant with me.  The girl wasn't conveying much emotionally so I decided to give her a little direction.  I asked her to pretend that she hadn't seen her boyfriend in a year because he was away in Iraq.  I wanted her to get a mental picture of this person and then to look at me and whisper what she was feeling.  (ie. i love you.  i miss you dearly)  At that moment the sun was peeking out from behind a cloud and there were rays of light everywhere.  Ahhh, she transformed into an angel.  Then there was silence.  Her eyes met mine and she whispered, "I want you to f@#k me up the a##."

The crew and I froze in disbelief.  We all heard it and she didn't stop talking that way.  She continued.

What do you say?

You put that poor girl in a very dire situation. She wanted you so bad, and all you wanted was that perfect look.

Well, I guess the only thing to do at that point, since you heated her up, is grab her, and hit the first motel on main street that you find.

Just remember, don't sign in with your real name, just in case her boyfriend comes a looking for you!!

MaxwellIII wrote:

It was certainly a test of your loyalty to hold back your inner sexual desires for the photographer, especially when you both knew, that it was more then just a photo shoot for both of you.

It was hot and grinding sex you both desired and lusted for from each other. WOW!! You really are very loyal to your boyfriend.

I wouldn't have slept with him (for various reasons) even if I were single, but nice try.

Robert Voltaire wrote:
I was shooting with a model on a beach-I am a little on the hot side as far as looks go   ; ) -and I had a makeup artist and assistant with me.  The girl wasn't conveying much emotionally so I decided to give her a little direction.  I asked her to pretend that she hadn't seen her boyfriend in a year because he was away in Iraq.  I wanted her to get a mental picture of this person and then to look at me and whisper what she was feeling.  (ie. i love you.  i miss you dearly)  At that moment the sun was peeking out from behind a cloud and there were rays of light everywhere.  Ahhh, she transformed into an angel.  Then there was silence.  Her eyes met mine and she whispered, "I want you to f@#k me up the a##."

The crew and I froze in disbelief.  We all heard it and she didn't stop talking that way.  She continued.

What do you say?

I would have fallen over laughing if I had witnessed that little moment!

e-string wrote:

I wouldn't have slept with him (for various reasons) even if I were single, but nice try.

You are really a nice girl, g-string, and I mean that. Sorry about me plugging away at you. Actually, I can understand why some photographers would try to make a move on you. You are very attractive.

John Jebbia wrote:

Wow!

A good model friend of mine told me this story:

Basically, she was shooting with this guy and she was laying on one of those psychologist style couches.. The photographer asked her to close her eyes which she did.. But it got quiet for a long time and she opened them to find him standing above her rubbing one out.

She didn't freak out. She didn't run off screaming. She played it cool and said something like "Want me to help you out? Put it in my hand." Which he promptly did.

She gripped the mother fucker so hard he couldn't escape. All he could do is stand there screaming. She dragged his screaming ass all over the house then up and down the street yelling obscenities at him in front of all of his neighbors.

She knows who she is. She's probably reading this. She's probably laughing. Way to go!

as funny as this story is.  Im sure it is embelished a great, great deal.

MaxwellIII wrote:

You are really a nice girl, g-string, and I mean that. Sorry about me plugging away at you. Actually, I can understand why some photographers would try to make a move on you. You are very attractive.

Well that was a surprising comment... here I thought you were just being one of those snarky morons, lol. But it's nice to see that you can pull it back and be decent. Unless I'm falling for some snarky trap. ha

And thank you. And don't worry.. I don't let people I've never met get to me, so it's all good.

e-string wrote:

Well that was a surprising comment... here I thought you were just being one of those snarky morons, lol. But it's nice to see that you can pull it back and be decent. Unless I'm falling for some snarky trap. ha

And thank you. And don't worry.. I don't let people I've never met get to me, so it's all good.

I am serious, and I do like your images. Please don't get me wrong by saying this, but the one of you laying on a bed with your rump up, is really a turn on. You have a fantastic butt, and a man can think of a lot of things to do with a butt like that.

My favorite image of you is the one were you are by the bathing window. You have the perfect shape. You have the shape I'm searching for to some day do a series of 7 images of artistic nudes. If you get to Chicago, sometime, let me know.

For everyone else reading this, this is not some pick up line that I'm using, she really does have that perfect shape.

John Jebbia wrote:
Yeah right! We all know photographers don't like to get laid.

But seriously. Why is it that when a man/photographer tries to get some tail he's automatically labled a pervert?

Yes, especially if he's not a looker (like me) or older.

John Jebbia wrote:
Wow!

A good model friend of mine told me this story:

Basically, she was shooting with this guy and she was laying on one of those psychologist style couches.. The photographer asked her to close her eyes which she did.. But it got quiet for a long time and she opened them to find him standing above her rubbing one out.

She didn't freak out. She didn't run off screaming. She played it cool and said something like "Want me to help you out? Put it in my hand." Which he promptly did.

She gripped the mother fucker so hard he couldn't escape. All he could do is stand there screaming. She dragged his screaming ass all over the house then up and down the street yelling obscenities at him in front of all of his neighbors.

She knows who she is. She's probably reading this. She's probably laughing. Way to go!

This is an old urban legend... I've heard it before in many variations.  Originally it was an elderly woman and a guy broke into her house to try to assault her.  At least your friend could try to be creative when she lies. 

MaxwellIII wrote:

I am serious, and I do like your images. Please don't get me wrong by saying this, but the one of you laying on a bed with your rump up, is really a turn on. You have a fantastic butt, and a man can think of a lot of things to do with a butt like that.

My favorite image of you is the one were you are by the bathing window. You have the perfect shape. You have the shape I'm searching for to some day do a series of 7 images of artistic nudes. If you get to Chicago, sometime, let me know.

For everyone else reading this, this is not some pick up line that I'm using, she really does have that perfect shape.

Well thank you! Those are some nice compliments. I may be in Chicago in the middle of August, actually. I have to get to work on a paper (due today, lol) right now, but drop me a note if you're serious and we can talk details later.

Robert Voltaire wrote:
I was shooting with a model on a beach...     ...Her eyes met mine and she whispered, "I want you to f@#k me up the a##."

The crew and I froze in disbelief.  We all heard it and she didn't stop talking that way.  She continued.

What do you say?

What? With all this sand around?

swhnyc wrote:

This is an old urban legend... I've heard it before in many variations.  Originally it was an elderly woman and a guy broke into her house to try to assault her.  At least your friend could try to be creative when she lies. 

You are probaly the guy who likes to stand up and yell, "It's in his other hand" when a magician is performing a trick. Just enjoy the act.

John Jebbia wrote:
Yeah right! We all know photographers don't like to get laid.

But seriously. Why is it that when a man/photographer tries to get some tail he's automatically labled a pervert?

The double standard against men. We are all perverts.

Robert Sanders wrote:
Ulterior motive is the foundation to being perverse; luring someone into a situation to accomplish an altogether different agenda than taking photos. If you want to shoot pictures then you really don't want to get into the girl's pants... if you want to get into her pants, then you really don't have any creative motivation photographically.

Robert

I think this sums it up pretty nicely.

Eric S. wrote:
Forget hooking up, I can't even find a model to shoot with me for a tearsheet and $100 and a CD of all the images from the shoot.
Hope everyone else is "gettin' some"

Why do I have a hard time believing this?