Robert Voltaire wrote:
I was shooting with a model on a beach-I am a little on the hot side as far as looks go   ; ) -and I had a makeup artist and assistant with me.  The girl wasn't conveying much emotionally so I decided to give her a little direction.  I asked her to pretend that she hadn't seen her boyfriend in a year because he was away in Iraq.  I wanted her to get a mental picture of this person and then to look at me and whisper what she was feeling.  (ie. i love you.  i miss you dearly)  At that moment the sun was peeking out from behind a cloud and there were rays of light everywhere.  Ahhh, she transformed into an angel.  Then there was silence.  Her eyes met mine and she whispered, "I want you to f@#k me up the a##."

The crew and I froze in disbelief.  We all heard it and she didn't stop talking that way.  She continued.

What do you say?

Your place or mine?  Crew dismissed!

JAY carreon wrote:
I AM horny - but I keep it in my pants, no matter how provocatively the models act!  It probably means I'm missing out . . .

JAY carreon
PHOTOGRAPHER

Boy, Jay, are YOU missing out!

Navid wrote:
Does anyone think that it is any worse than being in a corporate enviroment?
I mean we all have heard about the infamous secretary and her boss.
My experience is regardless of how the photographer or model looks the higher up in the industry you are and the more you can make happen for a girls career wether you are a photographer, art director, client etc the less it becomes an issue with anyone because like Wall Street Trading begins early.
This may sound pretty shitty but i am talking about the fact that in life the more tempting the trade the less anyone seems to have a problem with it.....so when people say i would never bla bla bla , i have seen first hand experience that it is not the case. It is actually done on a pretty open level...just ask Demarchlier.

I worked in the corporate environment for eight years......and yes the trading does start early........

When I was in my 20's, looked fairly good, no grey hair I worked for an entertainment magazine....and sex was almost a given.....90% of the time from the prospective models side because they wanted to be on the cover or featured as one of our "Fox of The Month" girls......it got to be a real joke after a while....when I walked into any of the clubs we covered and the women found the "the guy from Nightlife is here".....first came the rush to the ladies room where there was frantic hair combing, lipstick and makeup spreading...then came the long walk past me to catch my eye.....just for fun I used to mess with my equipment and not look their way.....when they really wanted to be in the magazine.....sex was always offered.......ironically the women who finally appeared in the magazine....I never slept with......

Now.....I'm 50, grey hair and put on weight.....so what would happen now?.....doesn't take genius to figure it out.....I'd be that "perv" photographer.....

Not for nothing but the standards have DOUBLE written across them all the way......and that's a shame because talent doesn't have anything to do with looks when you're a photographer....

FKVPhotoGraphics wrote:

I worked in the corporate environment for eight years......and yes the trading does start early........

When I was in my 20's, looked fairly good, no grey hair I worked for an entertainment magazine....and sex was almost a given.....90% of the time from the prospective models side because they wanted to be on the cover or featured as one of our "Fox of The Month" girls......it got to be a real joke after a while....when I walked into any of the clubs we covered and the women found the "the guy from Nightlife is here".....first came the rush to the ladies room where there was frantic hair combing, lipstick and makeup spreading...then came the long walk past me to catch my eye.....just for fun I used to mess with my equipment and not look their way.....when they really wanted to be in the magazine.....sex was always offered.......ironically the women who finally appeared in the magazine....I never slept with......

Now.....I'm 50, grey hair and put on weight.....so what would happen now?.....doesn't take genius to figure it out.....I'd be that "perv" photographer.....

Not for nothing but the standards have DOUBLE written across them all the way......and that's a shame because talent doesn't have anything to do with looks when you're a photographer....

If you slept with any of them knowing what they were after then your a perv no matter what you look like. No offence

IvanSHarris wrote:
damn it...One model thought I was GAY because I didn't say anything...WHAT the hell...lol I mean I am a professional here....

......."not that there's anything wrong with that!"...........


sorry, couldn't help myself!

IvanSHarris wrote:
damn it...One model thought I was GAY because I didn't say anything...WHAT the hell...lol I mean I am a professional here....

......."not that there's anything wrong with that!"...........


sorry, couldn't help myself!

Rick Hughes Photography wrote:
sorry that is a little off topic

i know a guy like that , only hes a college baseball coach not a photographer.

Ahzure wrote:
Man, I tell ya- there's something in the air in Phoenix... Seems like a couple of photographers can't deal with the heat and turn into perverts...  Or are they GWC?  Tell me your horrific perv experience- winner gets a piece of candy and some Jesus Juice from Michael Jackson!!!

Just a bunch of PERVES out there!!!! It's the Arizona heat! Guys just wait a few minutes and they’ll ask you! Then you go from PERVE to STUD status!

lamar photography wrote:
If you slept with any of them knowing what they were after then your a perv no matter what you look like. No offence

None Taken......funny thing though.....I was dating a few women at the time and none of them even wanted to be in the magazine.....although with their looks I did ask on more than one occasion and refused everytime.... but they did help me in choosing who to run......after you've a few dozen stroll by their looks started to blend and I wanted "distinctive" looks......so having girlfriend really helped......

Oliver Cole wrote:
IF the photographer (male) looks like George Cloney, Colin Farrell, Johnny Depp, Will Smith or Daguerre...then it's NOT harrassment! On the other hand if they look like George Smith, Colin Jones, Johnny-be-Good or Will Stone..yep that's harrassment!!!

Oliver, have we met?

UIPHOTOS wrote:
I have had models tell me that they were surprised "we didnt DO something" or they have questioned my sexuality because I didnt get all excited because they were nude and in close proximity... Some have been bold enough to tell me that I "missed out on an opportunity" when I didnt even see it as one..

I am really clinical when I shoot, so the amount of clothes doesnt change that.. So there are photogs with stories as well.. I too KNOW other photogs who dont miss those opportunities..   LOL

I have also had a female model question my sexual preference due to the lack of post shoot activity, And an older married lady "offer more" at the end of the session.

Artistic People open up and feel different......I am guilty of the feeling rushing over me...I will admit this...but I am in a LTR.  It is gonna happen, keep it professional and it will work out.

Horney or not.....don't stifle the emotion, just don't act on them!
If you are involved in the shoot and are getting excited, it will show in the final images.

Have a Great Day
Charlie

Justin N Lane wrote:

Why do I have a hard time believing this?

Ditto. 

Fotticelli wrote:
I must have a really sick mind because all I think about during a shoot are pictures. I'm old maybe that's it.

I've been reading the posts & thinking the same thing--other than "old"!  )
I can't believe that some are justifying this behavior.
*I've heard some horrifying stories from model friends; but, sadly I can't repeat at this moment.

Ahzure wrote:
if all you got were some comments, then consider yourself LUCKY!!! (at least you have a juicy ass, really)

Wait, that's not fair!!  You can say that and I can't?  Dang!!

Even if I wanted to tell a model that, I'd never have the guts.  heh, I can't even talk dirty to a girlfriend without feeling all stupid and busting up laughing.  Oh yeah girl, you like that, you like that?

My most offensive comments to a model during a shoot:  Yeah, I like that.  That's a hot look.  You have a beautiful smile!  You have beautiful eyes.

That's all I can think of right now.  So far in my attempts at being offensive during a shoot, all I get are thank yous and bigger smiles.

Kansas City Media Group wrote:
but I am in a LTR.  It is gonna happen, keep it professional and it will work out.

Horney or not.....don't stifle the emotion, just don't act on them!
If you are involved in the shoot and are getting excited, it will show in the final images.

Have a Great Day
Charlie

Maybe I'm slowing down with age (nearly 54) but the last three shoots I've been on have involved either full nudity or partial nudity.  I've been so busy worrying about the shots that nothing sexual has even crossed my mind.  Heck, I don't even get aroused looking at the images during the editing process.  Maybe it has something to do with the fact that my wife is my assistant and accompanies me to all my shoots and helps with the editing.  Then again, maybe I just try really hard to maintain a high level of professionalism. :-)

In this internet age, if a photographer let the little head do the thinking during a shoot, it would take about 10 min after the shoot for his reputation to be so shot that he couldn't get a gig shooting a sack of potatoes.

e-string wrote:
Well, there was the old guy who told me I gave him "starch in his shorts". He was a GWC and I was still kinda a beginner.

And then there was the guy who put his head between my legs. Luckily he didn't actually do anything right away and I was able to tell him to because I'm not single was not a GWC, just a jerk. I actually enjoyed the shoot until that point though.

And when you are single this kind of behavior from a photographer would be acceptable?

I'm starting to wonder about all the booty I have been missing out on for the last two years.  I need to start making some phone calls

John Jebbia wrote:
Yeah right! We all know photographers don't like to get laid.

But seriously. Why is it that when a man/photographer tries to get some tail he's automatically labled a pervert?

...Probably because it's not appropriate during business?  I dunno, maybe it's just me... But there are some photogs that tell models that "the only way to make money is to get naked..."  I'm sure we all know at least one photog that's pulled that line.

Rick Hughes Photography wrote:
Ya know cracks me up? The whole daddy syndrome....

Wow...twice on the same thread.
This really cracks you up!
lol

Eric S. wrote:
Forget hooking up, I can't even find a model to shoot with me for a tearsheet and $100 and a CD of all the images from the shoot.
Hope everyone else is "gettin' some"

Sorry man, I didn't fit your requirements.  It's not my fault. I only have what God gave me and I ruined over the last 34 years.

Ahzure wrote:
if all you got were some comments, then consider yourself LUCKY!!! (at least you have a juicy ass, really)

Now that we ( males and female )  have agreed that Sara has a juicy ass, is the issue timing ?  Ahzure is juicy mama herslf, is she seting a double standard ? NO!

I work with a lot of beginning models and you have to tell them they are beautiful to get some level of confidence going.

It is in the presentation. If you give compliments with your pants down,  or with a corncob in your pants or with that doggie-saw-bone look then you will get a bad response.

"You have a really wonderful body " is worlds away from " geez, look at that ass, gimme a bite".

So models you ARE gorgeous and sexy , you will on occasion excite a photographer but we won't lose control and behave like frat boys when you take your clothes off.

Robert Voltaire wrote:
I was shooting with a model on a beach-I am a little on the hot side as far as looks go   ; ) -and I had a makeup artist and assistant with me.  The girl wasn't conveying much emotionally so I decided to give her a little direction.  I asked her to pretend that she hadn't seen her boyfriend in a year because he was away in Iraq.  I wanted her to get a mental picture of this person and then to look at me and whisper what she was feeling.  (ie. i love you.  i miss you dearly)  At that moment the sun was peeking out from behind a cloud and there were rays of light everywhere.  Ahhh, she transformed into an angel.  Then there was silence.  Her eyes met mine and she whispered, "I want you to f@#k me up the a##."

The crew and I froze in disbelief.  We all heard it and she didn't stop talking that way.  She continued.

What do you say?

HOLY CRAP that is the funniest !@#$! I have ever heard!!! I think I would've said "sorry, sh*t stains aren't good before dinner..."

John Fisher wrote:


A long time ago in ....well, it was when I had my studio in DC, so a long time ago. Anyway a new face from Seattle had come to town to shoot with me and as luck would have it, a young photographer from upstate NY was also visiting. I got a call from an English model I had started years ago, she was back in the States and invited me down to her place in Fredericksburg. So we all packed up and drove down for lunch (long set up, but a great story! Have patience!)

We are all sitting around talking and the English girl is showing us her portfolio which had a couple on terrific fashion nudes in it (she worked the big circuit, Europe and New York). The new face from Seattle asked about the pictures and if she felt comfortable shooting them. Yadda yadda yadda, part of the business, what ever. Anyway, the young girl then asked her if anything "unpleasant" happened during a shoot, and she said: (finally I get to the story!)

"One time when I first got to Paris, the agency set me up with this really famous photographer to shoot an editorial for French "ELLE". I was so excited, just being in the studio was a rush! I was up at the front of the studio, and when I turned around, there the guy stood with his pants down around his ankles! It was so gross!"

The young girl and the visiting photographer are now sitting there with their mouths agape.

"Did you leave immediately?", the young girl from Seattle finally asked.

"Well, I should have.......... but it WAS for French "ELLE", she answered.

"Was it for the cover?", I asked.

"Why John, if it had been for the cover, I wouldn't have thought he was so gross!"

Life in the big city.

John
--
John Fisher
900 West Avenue, Suite 423
Miami Beach, Florida  33139
305 534-9322
http://www.johnfisher.com

NICE.  You get a gold star for that one.

Daniel Schmidtka wrote:

Just a bunch of PERVES out there!!!! It's the Arizona heat! Guys just wait a few minutes and they’ll ask you! Then you go from PERVE to STUD status!

No candy for you.  Photographers and models aren't f*ck buddies in my book.

UnoMundo Photography wrote:

Now that we ( males and female )  have agreed that Sara has a juicy ass, is the issue timing ?  Ahzure is juicy mama herslf, is she seting a double standard ? NO!

I work with a lot of beginning models and you have to tell them they are beautiful to get some level of confidence going.

It is in the presentation. If you give compliments with your pants down,  or with a corncob in your pants or with that doggie-saw-bone look then you will get a bad response.

"You have a really wonderful body " is worlds away from " geez, look at that ass, gimme a bite".

So models you ARE gorgeous and sexy , you will on occasion excite a photographer but we won't lose control and behave like frat boys when you take your clothes off.

lol, this is great.  I think it's nice to have a good relationship with the photographer to get great shots and feel comfy, but biting into the bootious roundimus is probably not the best way to treat a juicy model, you're right.  Gold star for you.

DigitalCMH wrote:

Wait, that's not fair!!  You can say that and I can't?  Dang!!

Even if I wanted to tell a model that, I'd never have the guts.  heh, I can't even talk dirty to a girlfriend without feeling all stupid and busting up laughing.  Oh yeah girl, you like that, you like that?

My most offensive comments to a model during a shoot:  Yeah, I like that.  That's a hot look.  You have a beautiful smile!  You have beautiful eyes.

That's all I can think of right now.  So far in my attempts at being offensive during a shoot, all I get are thank yous and bigger smiles.

Piece of candy from Michael Jackson goes to you.  You caught my double standard!!!

Ahzure wrote:
...Probably because it's not appropriate during business?  I dunno, maybe it's just me... But there are some photogs that tell models that "the only way to make money is to get naked..."  I'm sure we all know at least one photog that's pulled that line.

It's not the only way. But it is probably the quickest and easiest way to make money.

UIPHOTOS wrote:
I am really clinical when I shoot, so the amount of clothes doesnt change that..

Me too.  Plus being partially deaf I'm usually off in my own little world while I'm shooting.  I have to pay too much attention to "hear" chitchat.

Although the worst shoot I had (image wise) was the one where the model told me the session was like being at the doctors (and I agree, there was no rapport and she was about as animated as a brick). 

Sometimes I think beautiful women are a bit put off if their looks don't appear to affect you  Insulted even.