Photographer
Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
...Stacy wrote:
lol: I'm a rocket scientist! Great! Start with the unified field theory, build upon what I already started. Please include all aspects of modeling, land-based, internet, etc... We need one simple formula to encompass all of modeling. I know this is much more difficult to do than a unified field theory to explain the entire universe but could you have it by tomorrow?
Photographer
Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
...Stacy wrote:
you have to take the average logarithmic energy decrement per espresso per subject, the faster half life of the drinks, which will depend on milk content of course, then add to that the amount of time spent in line. (T(ave)).
Then smak yourself for going to starbucks. Since I cannot understand a word you are saying, you obviously know what you are talking about. Please contact Suzi to work on the unified field theory of modeling
Thank you for your assistance.
Model
StacyJack
Posts: 2297
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
Jeff Fiore wrote:
Since I cannot understand a word you are saying, you obviously know what you are talking about. Please contact Suzi to work on the unified field theory of modeling
Thank you for your assistance. If it's that easy to know what I'm talking about hows this?
Gibbldygook blahawani eckum starbucks, browninierkshire coffeekins mcDoogies burnshum gibuldry. blahumbug meroni mc humbam latte. plus hot chocolate.
Model
StacyJack
Posts: 2297
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
Photographer
retphoto
Posts: 876
Sunbury, Pennsylvania, US
StaciF wrote:
I am posting here to get noticed-
Here are my rates  I like your rates...here's your first payment , when can we do a shoot?
Photographer
Worlds Of Water
Posts: 37732
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US
But wait a minute... wait a minute... wait a minute... we ARE here to give you free pictures... AND lots of cash at the same time. Don't believe it? Read the credits on my MM page... 
Photographer
Christopher Hartman
Posts: 54196
Buena Park, California, US
...Stacy wrote:
If it's that easy to know what I'm talking about hows this?
Gibbldygook blahawani eckum starbucks, browninierkshire coffeekins mcDoogies burnshum gibuldry. blahumbug meroni mc humbam latte. plus hot chocolate. Is it ok to admit that I am in love with you?
Photographer
Patrick Walberg
Posts: 45475
San Juan Bautista, California, US
Last time I checked, we have the freedom to pick and choose who we wish to work with.
Model
theda
Posts: 21719
New York, New York, US
Photographer
LongWindFPV Visuals
Posts: 7052
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
I'd like to add a personal and somewhat artistic modification to the OP's rant. My own rendering if you will. 00siris wrote:
Charging a photog-artist Stripper/Escort hourly rates for any genre is an insult Especially, if you got free pretty pictures in addition to the money and don't give up the "howdy hoo" after the shoot! Lol *sets his brush down and steps back to look at his work*
I think that looks pretty good. If, I do say so myself. 
Photographer
Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
Photographer
Dreams To Keep
Posts: 585
Novi, Michigan, US
theda wrote:
Hey! No linking to badger porn on the forums! Actually more of Furry Fetish since both of the animals are already stuffed (not just the one on the bottom who appears to be getting stuffed by the one on top.)
Photographer
Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
theda wrote:
Hey! No linking to badger porn on the forums! You see! I'm not the only one to think it's porn!
Not only that, they look like underage badgers to me!
Badgerphiles!
Photographer
Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
...Stacy wrote:
If it's that easy to know what I'm talking about hows this?
Gibbldygook blahawani eckum starbucks, browninierkshire coffeekins mcDoogies burnshum gibuldry. blahumbug meroni mc humbam latte. plus hot chocolate. WOW! mutiple syllables! I AM impressed!
Model
xrhapsodiex
Posts: 72
New York, New York, US
I love the subject of this discussion, because if you really think about it, yes photographers have $1000's in equipment, but models have $1000's in wardrobe make-up and we still have to pay our rent too people. I can understand that if a photographer contacts me and wants to work with me, if his photography is something left to be desired, then I'll discuss a rate with him. If they're phenomonal, then I won't charge them. However, I get several photogs that have contacted me with they're rates. You know what I did, moved on to the next. But to say that "We're not here to give you free pictures" sounds kind of hypocritial, don't you think???
Food for thought....
Photographer
SolraK Studios
Posts: 1213
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Sindia wrote:
I agree with both 00sirus & StaciF... I dont believe anyone should recieve unsolicated rates, from either model or photog. If someone really likes your work and asks your rates great... but if they haven't contacted you asking your rates dont push it on ppl. The same thing that happened to StaciF also happened to me, so i definitely understand where she is coming from! hmmm nice point how about this Sindia If a photographer contact you about working together there is a 50/50 chance you will do TFP, now if you contact a photographer there is a 99% chance you'll want a TFP. If you were to pay for a photoshoot it could lead to bigger and better things you never know. The same goes for photographers who hire top-notch models. It seems the unwritten rule here is silly. If you do contact a photographer for paid work do it in a prof. way not with the " I love your work , here are my rates".
Model
StacyJack
Posts: 2297
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
DigitalCMH wrote:
Is it ok to admit that I am in love with you? ? I don't understand the question.
Model
Suzi
Posts: 483
Toledo, Ohio, US
Stacy...you are not supposed to be considered with love right now. Jeff said you and I should be coming up with theories. Get with it girl
Photographer
Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
xrhapsodiex wrote:
I love the subject of this discussion, because if you really think about it, yes photographers have $1000's in equipment, but models have $1000's in wardrobe make-up and we still have to pay our rent too people. I can understand that if a photographer contacts me and wants to work with me, if his photography is something left to be desired, then I'll discuss a rate with him. If they're phenomonal, then I won't charge them. However, I get several photogs that have contacted me with they're rates. You know what I did, moved on to the next. But to say that "We're not here to give you free pictures" sounds kind of hypocritial, don't you think???
Food for thought.... Well, I'm not planning making money off of models, I plan on making money off my photos. When I get a paying client, both the model amd I get paid - a win-win situation. In the mean time, I am quite happy shooting TFP because of the collaboration with models. Besides, if I get a paying gig and I choose the model, who am I going to pick?
Model
StacyJack
Posts: 2297
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
Suzi wrote:
Stacy...you are not supposed to be considered with love right now. Jeff said you and I should be coming up with theories.
Get with it girl I... I can't do it, there's too much pressure. AHHHH! (bursts into tears... head explodes. big mess.)
Photographer
Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
...Stacy wrote:
I... I can't do it, there's too much pressure. AHHHH! (bursts into tears... head explodes. big mess.) No head exploding! We are talking about the unified field theory of modeling! Not the Big Bang theory!
Model
StaciF
Posts: 876
New York, New York, US
Jeff Fiore wrote:
Well, I'm not planning making money off of models, I plan on making money off my photos. When I get a paying client, both the model amd I get paid - a win-win situation. In the mean time, I am quite happy shooting TFP because of the collaboration with models. Besides, if I get a paying gig and I choose the model, who am I going to pick? Pick me! Pick me!
Photographer
Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
StaciF wrote:
Pick me! Pick me! Already worked with you twice! You're qualified!
Model
StacyJack
Posts: 2297
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
Jeff Fiore wrote:
No head exploding! We are talking about the unified field theory of modeling! Not the Big Bang theory! I would respond, but I'm afraid my head exploded, so i cannot seem to get my thoughts in order. you'd think it would be easier, with them all out in front of me... odd isn't it?
Photographer
grsphoto
Posts: 313
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
xrhapsodiex wrote:
but models have $1000's in wardrobe make-up and we still have to pay our rent too people.
Food for thought.... I haven't read much of this thread.... but as a model the "higher" you go in the profession the less clothes and makeup you bring, it is all supplied.
Photographer
Patrick Walberg
Posts: 45475
San Juan Bautista, California, US
xrhapsodiex wrote:
I love the subject of this discussion, because if you really think about it, yes photographers have $1000's in equipment, but models have $1000's in wardrobe make-up and we still have to pay our rent too people. I can understand that if a photographer contacts me and wants to work with me, if his photography is something left to be desired, then I'll discuss a rate with him. If they're phenomonal, then I won't charge them. However, I get several photogs that have contacted me with they're rates. You know what I did, moved on to the next. But to say that "We're not here to give you free pictures" sounds kind of hypocritial, don't you think???
Food for thought.... I love your attitude! It's what exactly I'm talk'in about! People are all different. If someone wants to work with you bad enough, they'll pay. If you want to work with them, you'll pay or negotiate a deal that benefits both photographer and model. Simple as that! No need to get all upset if someone sends you their rates. No body says we are "here to give (you) free pictures!"
Now let me tell you the one about the model model who wanted me to "TFP" her wedding! OMG!!!! I was not insulted, instead I laughed so hard I had tears and nearly pee'd in my pants! Honestly! Thta is a true life story I have to tell, and I busted my gut laughing so hard! Too bad everyone can't take it as a joke!
No hard feelings towards that model, I know she is not here ... OMG! Here I go laughing again!
Model
StaciF
Posts: 876
New York, New York, US
Jeff Fiore wrote:
Great! Start with the unified field theory, build upon what I already started. Please include all aspects of modeling, land-based, internet, etc... We need one simple formula to encompass all of modeling. I know this is much more difficult to do than a unified field theory to explain the entire universe but could you have it by tomorrow? GWC+CWS=TFP/CD C$$/(PP+SM)
Does this work
Photographer
Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
...Stacy wrote:
I would respond, but I'm afraid my head exploded, so i cannot seem to get my thoughts in order. you'd think it would be easier, with them all out in front of me... odd isn't it? Damn! It's not only rocket science, it is now also brain surgury!
Google "brain surgury at home", I'm sure there is information out there somewhere. Don't google "getting your head together", you may get a lot of self-help, positive thinking nonsense
Photographer
Patrick Walberg
Posts: 45475
San Juan Bautista, California, US
Jeff Fiore wrote:
Well, I'm not planning making money off of models, I plan on making money off my photos. When I get a paying client, both the model amd I get paid - a win-win situation. In the mean time, I am quite happy shooting TFP because of the collaboration with models. Besides, if I get a paying gig and I choose the model, who am I going to pick? It does depend on what the images are going to be used for, plus who wants it bad enough.
If I want to hold 100% of the copyright, I'll pay the model. If the model or client wants the ownership, they pay for the images. Most of the time I enjoy "TFP" because I actually do better letting my creative juices flow without pressures ... and many times I even get better photos in "TFP" circumstances for that very reason!
I welcome models sending me their rates! But it doesn't mean I'm going to shoot with them.
Photographer
Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
StaciF wrote:
GWC+CWS=TFP/CD C$$/(PP+SM)
Does this work That's damn close but you forgot the boobie factor into the equation for GWC
GWC*(O)(O)+CWS=TFP/CD C$$/(PP+SM)
Model
StaciF
Posts: 876
New York, New York, US
Jeff Fiore wrote:
That's damn close but you forgot the boobie factor into the equation for GWC
GWC*(O)(O)+CWS=TFP/CD C$$/(PP+SM) Those boobies throw me everytime- Guess thats cause I already own 2 LOL
Photographer
Christopher Hartman
Posts: 54196
Buena Park, California, US
...Stacy wrote:
? I don't understand the question. I just want to make sure it's ok. I don't want the woman I am love with to hate me or think I'm creepy. I'm not creepy, honest! No really!
Photographer
Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
Patrick Walberg wrote:
It does depend on what the images are going to be used for, plus who wants it bad enough.
If I want to hold 100% of the copyright, I'll pay the model. If the model or client wants the ownership, they pay for the images. Most of the time I enjoy "TFP" because I actually do better letting my creative juices flow without pressures ... and many times I even get better photos in "TFP" circumstances for that very reason!
I welcome models sending me their rates! But it doesn't mean I'm going to shoot with them. That is exactly my point, I feel I get better work when both the model and I collaborate because we both have a stake in doing good work - we both feed off each other with ideas and creative brainstorming.
Model
StacyJack
Posts: 2297
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
Jeff Fiore wrote:
Damn! It's not only rocket science, it is now also brain surgury!
Google "brain surgury at home", I'm sure there is information out there somewhere. Don't google "getting your head together", you may get a lot of self-help, positive thinking nonsense i looked it up, I'm going to need four toothpicks and some fruit stripe gum. I'll have to go to the store.
Model
StacyJack
Posts: 2297
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
DigitalCMH wrote:
I just want to make sure it's ok. I don't want the woman I am love with to hate me or think I'm creepy. I'm not creepy, honest! No really! oh, OK! (empty headed smile... walks away humming.)
Photographer
Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
StaciF wrote:
Those boobies throw me everytime- Guess thats cause I already own 2 LOL That's because you can't see tit from a guy's perspective - oops, typo
Photographer
Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
...Stacy wrote:
i looked it up, I'm going to need four toothpicks and some fruit stripe gum. I'll have to go to the store. Not in any brain surgury book but I was once told that crazy glue works wonders.
Photographer
Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
...Stacy wrote:
oh, OK! (empty headed smile... walks away humming.) OF course it is an empy headed smile! Will you please get your brains back into your head before people start calling you airhead!!!!!
Model
StacyJack
Posts: 2297
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
airhead airhead la de da de da! (humming)
Photographer
Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
...Stacy wrote:
airhead airhead la de da de da! (humming) Stacy, if you insist on NOT putting your brains back in your head, you will have to dye your hair blonde!!!! Is that what you want!!!!!
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