Primal Lens wrote:

Hi pot, meet kettle....When is the last time you looked at your own portfolio?

- Disclaimer - This is not a flame. I repeat this is NOT  a flame. Had this been an actual flame you would be crying by now

Me going around saying it turned me on would be excerbating the situation.  I understand I have sexual images, but that doesn't mean I have to add fire to fire.

Daniela V wrote:

Money turns me on.

Now, I ain't sayin' she's a gold digga!

MsChris wrote:
Yeah, hubby loves the days I have shoots!
And usually I am focused while we are shooting, it's just during breaks and afterwards when I have time to reflect that I notice I need to get home and quick!
Sometimes the photographer is incredibly sexy and concentration is a little harder to come by on those shoots. I find it hard to believe that any red blooded male photographer isn't turned on at all by shooting nude or scantily clad young women.

well I think it's because most of us are professional enough to be 'focused' on the job at hand, which is delivering a great product or the vision of art in ones mind, that is the driving force. That said when shooting scantily clad women and nudes , being a male I often reprimand my voyeristic side for letting my gaze settle for to long in certin areas of someones anatomy.....back to the task, concentrate, discipline!
And I guess obviously if I were to be aroused it would not reflect well with my subjects? A: if it isnt mutual that's just grounds for trouble and B: if it is mutual then there aint a whole lot of picture taking going on..and well you hubby might be somewhat peeved...lol

Mia Salen wrote:

Me going around saying it turned me on would be excerbating the situation.  I understand I have sexual images, but that doesn't mean I have to add fire to fire.

That is exactly what those images were shot for.Hello, McFly

Mia Salen wrote:

Me going around saying it turned me on would be excerbating the situation.  I understand I have sexual images, but that doesn't mean I have to add fire to fire.

This is what I still don't get... What is wrong with it? Why is it that people equate sexuality with being bad? And why is it "Well its ok as long as it is behind closed doors"? Open the freakin door, everbody does it, and there is nothing wrong with it.

MsChris wrote:
For some reason photoshoots turn me on like crazy. Sometimes I don't really realize it until I'm driving home, but almost always my husband gets mauled when I get home from a shoot. Does this happen with anyone else?

What's your take on gynecological exams?

Primal Lens wrote:

That is exactly what those images were shot for.Hello, McFly

I am fully aware they were shot because I'm being sexualized, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to over sexualize myself and say that "Oh boy that was arrousing!"  It's not something one says when shooting.  Or makes a big deal out of, in any case.

Frog516 wrote:

they did a couple of pages ago

Crap, the wife's right I need to read all the directions.  I has a screw left over.  lol

Frog516 wrote:
This is what I still don't get... What is wrong with it? Why is it that people equate sexuality with being bad? And why is it "Well its ok as long as it is behind closed doors"? Open the freakin door, everbody does it, and there is nothing wrong with it.

Exactly!

Frog516 wrote:

This is what I still don't get... What is wrong with it? Why is it that people equate sexuality with being bad? And why is it "Well its ok as long as it is behind closed doors"? Open the freakin door, everbody does it, and there is nothing wrong with it.

It's not professional!  Once you open the door, people sexualize you when you don't want them to.  Some of us don't want to be chided for keeping our sexual lives private and thinking it should be private.

Meehan wrote:

What's your take on gynecological exams?

The outcome of an exam aren't meant to be sexy, atleast as far as I know, but then again I have never been to one.

Mia Salen wrote:

It exploits the male driven thoughts of women being completely sexual creatures.  The modeling industry is a business, and although women dominate the modeling world, males run the industry.  Models are overly sexualized as it is; why exacerbate the situation?

If you were at a meeting trying to sell...let's say duck lips that gynecologists use and you got a woodie, you wouldn't announce it to the entire staff.

Women are the most completely sexual organisms on the planet.  Duck lips shouldn't turn anyone on.  A model doing a nude shoot with a photographer has the potential to be turned on and the photographer does too.  It's good to stick to your guns but the more you post, the more it seems like you're trying to hide how completely sexual you really are.  Free yourself.

Mia Salen wrote:

It's not professional!  Once you open the door, people sexualize you when you don't want them to.  Some of us don't want to be chided for keeping our sexual lives private and thinking it should be private.

Fine, you want it private thats great, but I can't see judging someone else negativily for being open and honest about it.

Frog516 wrote:

ok, well I wasn't commenting about them, I was discussing it with you. Yes you can keep it professional and do those types of shoots. But their are all sorts of personalities out there, some more liberal then others, it takes all kinds to make the world go 'round. My point was, if she can enjoy it that much, then good for her, its really not hurting anyone, and she is not screwing the photogs, she goes home and takes it out on her poor, over worked hubby.

You're awesome Frog516. I'm having a blast reading this over here. Funny stuff!

MsChris wrote:

You're awesome Frog516. I'm having a blast reading this over here. Funny stuff!

Thank you, at least I am not just cracking myself up.

Marshall Arts wrote:

Women are the most completely sexual organisms on the planet.  Duck lips shouldn't turn anyone on.  A model doing a nude shoot with a photographer has the potential to be turned on and the photographer does too.  It's good to stick to your guns but the more you post, the more it seems like you're trying to hide how completely sexual you really are.  Free yourself.

My sexuality is where it remains.  It comes out when it wants to and really, my goal in life is NOT to be a model.  I'm currently applying to med schools.  It's hard to be a woman in the professional world when people see you as a tits and ass and nothing more.
Women are more than just sexual objects.  They should be revered as much higher than that. 
I understand that with my stats, I can only really do lingerie/swimsuit/nude, so I don't need the fact that I have to act sexual to be excerbated by people who expect me to BE sexual and expect the shoot to be a sexual experience for me.
I like to remain professional.  I value privacy and I value my sexuality, but my sexuality is not ALL that I am.

Marshall Arts wrote:

If it's true, why not say it.  It doesn't make you non-professional.  It makes you secure enough in your womanhood to speak your mind.

Well said!

Frog516 wrote:

Fine, you want it private thats great, but I can't see judging someone else negativily for being open and honest about it.

I'm being judged negatively for being open and honest about thinking it's not professional.

Mia Salen wrote:

I'm being judged negatively for being open and honest about thinking it's not professional.

no just for being closed minded

Mia Salen wrote:
I'm currently applying to med schools.

Have you considered what the top dog at the hospital hiring you is gonna say/think when it comes out in the wash that you have photos allover the net of you slathered with oil with come hither looks?Some med schools might not even let you in if they see those.God help you if a member of the staff is a model or photographer and member here..

Mia Salen wrote:

My sexuality is where it remains.  It comes out when it wants to and really, my goal in life is NOT to be a model.  I'm currently applying to med schools.  It's hard to be a woman in the professional world when people see you as a tits and ass and nothing more.
Women are more than just sexual objects.  They should be revered as much higher than that. 
I understand that with my stats, I can only really do lingerie/swimsuit/nude, so I don't need the fact that I have to act sexual to be excerbated by people who expect me to BE sexual and expect the shoot to be a sexual experience for me.
I like to remain professional.  I value privacy and I value my sexuality, but my sexuality is not ALL that I am.

"It's hard to be a woman in the professional world when people see you as a tits and ass and nothing more.  Women are more than just sexual objects."

I didn't imply that nor do I feel that way and I'm sure most people in here don't feel that way.

"I value privacy and I value my sexuality, but my sexuality is not ALL that I am."

I definitely didn't say this either.  Honestly, I don't find you to be sexy at all but that's my opinion and I'm entitled to it just like you and everyone else in here is.  No one's judging you, just telling you to lighten up and get off that high horse you're riding.  Dismount!

Primal Lens wrote:

Have you considered what the top dog at the hospital hiring you is gonna say/think when it comes out in the wash that you have photos allover the net of you slathered with oil with come hither looks?Some med schools might not even let you in if they see those.

Hmmm...this should be interesting.

Mia Salen wrote:
It's hard to be a woman in the professional world when people see you as a tits and ass and nothing more.
Women are more than just sexual objects.  They should be revered as much higher than that. 
I understand that with my stats, I can only really do lingerie/swimsuit/nude, so I don't need the fact that I have to act sexual to be excerbated by people who expect me to BE sexual and expect the shoot to be a sexual experience for me.
I like to remain professional.  I value privacy and I value my sexuality, but my sexuality is not ALL that I am.

What the hell? You are critisizing me because it's hard for woman to be seen as more than tit's and ass when they are too open about their sexuality, yet you are the one with pictures of your bare breast on the internet.

Don't get me wrong people, I don't look down on nude work. I do look down on hypocrits though.

Primal Lens wrote:

Have you considered what the top dog at the hospital hiring you is gonna say/think when it comes out in the wash that you have photos allover the net of you slathered with oil with come hither looks?Some med schools might not even let you in if they see those.

I've already gotten into OSUs surgical oncology program.

MsChris wrote:
What the hell? You are critisizing me because it's hard for woman to be seen as more than tit's and ass when they are too open about their sexuality, yet you are the one with pictures of your bare breast on the internet.

Don't get me wrong people, I don't look down on nude work. I do look down on hypocrits though.

Bare breasts is one thing; making the future photographers think that I may be arroused during the shoot is another.

I didn't say there was anything wrong with being open about it...in the right venue.  In a forum where photographers, which happen to be the people who end up employing you, see this in an industry where women are only seen for the superficial qualities is where I think it's too much.

Marshall Arts wrote:
I definitely didn't say this either.  Honestly, I don't find you to be sexy at all but that's my opinion and I'm entitled to it just like you and everyone else in here is.  No one's judging you, just telling you to lighten up and get off that high horse you're riding.  Dismount!

This is to freakin' funny!

Mia Salen wrote:
making the future photographers think that I may be arroused during the shoot is another.

The right convincing come hither look does that for you...

Mia Salen wrote:

I've already gotten into OSUs surgical oncology program.

Congrats!  Now, you can leave the modeling thing alone.  :-)

Mia Salen wrote:

I've already gotten into OSUs surgical oncology program.

You might wanna be careful then. There are some vindictive people around here....

Primal Lens wrote:

The right convincing come hither look does that for you...

Most photographers know that it is acting.  Once it becomes truth, then the model becomes "available," even if she is not available for him.  I'm not saying all photographers are going to book a model just because they think she's available; most know that models are not available for those sorts of services (that's what escort services are for, right?).  It's my personal opinion that mixing my professional life with my private life is unprofessional.

Cecil Sharps wrote:
I'm wierd.  Photographing a nude, or nearly nude woman really doesn't excite me.  I'm much more likely to be turned on by seeing a woman do something i rarely see.  Like washing my car, cooking me dinner or trying to fix a leaky faucet.

lol

Mia Salen wrote:
Most photographers know that it is acting.

There is a keyword here.

Mia Salen wrote:

Most photographers know that it is acting.  Once it becomes truth, then the model becomes "available," even if she is not available for him.  I'm not saying all photographers are going to book a model just because they think she's available; most know that models are not available for those sorts of services (that's what escort services are for, right?).  It's my personal opinion that mixing my professional life with my private life is unprofessional.

Many people have met their spouses at the workplace and gone on to live happily ever after.  Did it make them "unprofessional"??  No.  But it sure as hell made them happy!

Marshall Arts wrote:

Many people have met their spouses at the workplace and gone on to live happily ever after.  Did it make them "unprofessional"??  No.  But it sure as hell made them happy!

Photographers in many cases are the employers.  I see that dynamic as the one being employed.  Having your employer know that whatever it is you're hired to do makes you arroused is just...not professional in my opinion.  It would be different if you just hit it off, but in this case, the model is advertising that fact.  It's out there already, it's a very intriguing notion that an attractive woman may be arroused right there in front of you.
I've worked with photographers that are currently dating models they met on a shoot, and I have no problem with that at all.  It's a different dynamic. They just hit it off. He didn't have that preconceived notion that she may get arroused by the job. 
That's my only gripe.

Mia Salen wrote:

Photographers in many cases are the employers.  I see that dynamic as the one being employed.  Having your employer know that whatever it is you're hired to do makes you arroused is just...not professional in my opinion.  It would be different if you just hit it off, but in this case, the model is advertising that fact.  It's out there already, it's a very intriguing notion that an attractive woman may be arroused right there in front of you.
I've worked with photographers that are currently dating models they met on a shoot, and I have no problem with that at all.  It's a different dynamic. They just hit it off. He didn't have that preconceived notion that she may get arroused by the job. 
That's my only gripe.

What if a woman works in a dildo factory... is it wrong to get arroused then too?

Mia Salen wrote:

Photographers in many cases are the employers.  I see that dynamic as the one being employed.  Having your employer know that whatever it is you're hired to do makes you arroused is just...not professional in my opinion.  It would be different if you just hit it off, but in this case, the model is advertising that fact.  It's out there already, it's a very intriguing notion that an attractive woman may be arroused right there in front of you.
I've worked with photographers that are currently dating models they met on a shoot, and I have no problem with that at all.  It's a different dynamic. They just hit it off. He didn't have that preconceived notion that she may get arroused by the job. 
That's my only gripe.

God, we get it. You think I'm unprofessional. Can we move on now?!

Frog516 wrote:
What if a woman works in a dildo factory... is it wrong to get arroused then too?

Haha! You are too funny!