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Photographer

nevar

Posts: 14670

Fort Smith, Arkansas, US

one of our own

http://kutv.com/topstories/local_story_331185411.html

I won't say anything about the person who allegedly did this, because then I could get in trouble (but since the story is published I can put the link here), how ever let this be a lesson to all of you who prey on the aspirations of another.... you're going to be caught. It might not be right away, but someone will talk, and when they do.... well lets just say sexual preditors don't get it easy in prison.

Nov 28 06 05:31 pm Link

Model

Shura

Posts: 1112

Jefferson City, Missouri, US

Ahm...where were her parents?

Nov 28 06 05:40 pm Link

Photographer

Kas_

Posts: 11110

Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada

That's horrible

Nov 28 06 05:41 pm Link

Photographer

Gary Blanchette

Posts: 5137

Irvine, California, US

This kind of thing really pi**e* me off!

Nov 28 06 05:43 pm Link

Photographer

far away

Posts: 4326

Jackson, Alabama, US

Uh oh.

Nov 28 06 05:43 pm Link

Photographer

Kas_

Posts: 11110

Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada

No escort or parents present?  The story doesn't give a lot of detail

Nov 28 06 05:44 pm Link

Photographer

nevar

Posts: 14670

Fort Smith, Arkansas, US

Shura wrote:
Ahm...where were her parents?

unfortunately shura, many parents don't know what it means to escort their minor in these situations. preditors will look specifically for these weaknesses, and will gain the confidence of those who do not know any better.

Nov 28 06 05:44 pm Link

Photographer

Ray Cornett

Posts: 9207

Sacramento, California, US

Great, now MM is gonna be dragged through the news mud like Myspace

Nov 28 06 05:46 pm Link

Photographer

Gems of Nature in N Atl

Posts: 1334

North Atlanta, Georgia, US

String him up by his balls in the town square saturday at noon!!

Nov 28 06 05:46 pm Link

Photographer

Veteres Vitri

Posts: 1994

MAYLENE, Alabama, US

We have no proof that the alleged perp, is the same guy who is a member of mm.  lots of circumstantial evidence, but nothing concrete.   provo isn't a small town there could be more than one  Mr. X.

However if it is the same guy, and he is proven guilty of the crimes he is charged with, i hope it get's ass pounded in prison.

Nov 28 06 05:48 pm Link

Photographer

nevar

Posts: 14670

Fort Smith, Arkansas, US

Primal Lens wrote:
Great, now MM is gonna be dragged through the news mud like Myspace

actually primal, this is the 4th photographer from here that I know of that has been arrested on similar charges. MM hasn't been implicated yet.... I think it was smart when tyler made the decision to oust under 16 year old models.... a smarter decision still would be to oust minors all together.

Nov 28 06 05:48 pm Link

Photographer

Hoodlum

Posts: 10254

Sacramento, California, US

Some teenage girl has cried abuse and we are ready to hang him. I'd wait for more facts to come out.

The fact is we don't know if she is lying or not, we don't know what the cops found. It amazes me that one girl can cry fowl and we are ready to start banging the Crucifiction  drum.

How abut we wait until more real facts emerge before we destroy him.

Nov 28 06 05:49 pm Link

Photographer

eric krumm

Posts: 46

Athens, Georgia, US

Jeff Marsh wrote:
String him up by his balls in the town square saturday at noon!!

just cut them off.

Nov 28 06 05:50 pm Link

Photographer

C R Photography

Posts: 3594

Pleasanton, California, US

From the look of his port it's a toss-up.

Young models yes.

Under 18, probably not, but it’s hard to tell.

Wonder what his side of the story is?

Nov 28 06 05:51 pm Link

Photographer

nevar

Posts: 14670

Fort Smith, Arkansas, US

Dan Hood  mm/moderator wrote:
Some teenage girl has cried abuse and we are ready to hang him. I'd wait for more facts to come out.

The fact is we dont know if she is lying or not we dont know what the cops found. It amazes me that one girl can cry fowl and we are ready to start banning the Crucifiction  drum.

How abut we wait until more real fact emerge before we destroy him.

exactly why I simply gave a link to the news story.

Nov 28 06 05:51 pm Link

Photographer

schipper photo

Posts: 93

Santa Barbara, California, US

Shura wrote:
Ahm...where were her parents?

isn't it the predator who is to blame, not the parents?

Nov 28 06 05:51 pm Link

Photographer

eric krumm

Posts: 46

Athens, Georgia, US

ravens laughter wrote:

actually primal, this is the 4th photographer from here that I know of that has been arrested on similar charges. MM hasn't been implicated yet.... I think it was smart when tyler made the decision to oust under 16 year old models.... a smarter decision still would be to oust minors all together.

i've worked with many high quality minors (not on this site) and i went through mom everytime.  they deserve opportunity just like "adult" women.

Nov 28 06 05:54 pm Link

Photographer

Ray Cornett

Posts: 9207

Sacramento, California, US

ravens laughter wrote:

actually primal, this is the 4th photographer from here that I know of that has been arrested on similar charges. MM hasn't been implicated yet.... I think it was smart when tyler made the decision to oust under 16 year old models.... a smarter decision still would be to oust minors all together.

The only way to do that is to see their ID,,,,, in person to verify it is authentic. As long as there is a way to make your own profile and select an age and bday, and sign up without an ID, there will be models here under the age limit set by MM. But thats another thread,lol.

Nov 28 06 05:55 pm Link

Photographer

Boho Hobo

Posts: 25351

Santa Barbara, California, US

ravens laughter wrote:

actually primal, this is the 4th photographer from here that I know of that has been arrested on similar charges. MM hasn't been implicated yet.... I think it was smart when tyler made the decision to oust under 16 year old models.... a smarter decision still would be to oust minors all together.

An arrest does not equal conviction.

An accusation does not mean fact.

Nov 28 06 05:56 pm Link

Photographer

Legacys 7

Posts: 33899

San Francisco, California, US

KM von Seidl wrote:

An arrest does not equal conviction.

An accusation does not mean fact.

agree. and the sad reality is..there are just as many accused victims as there are victims

Nov 28 06 05:58 pm Link

Photographer

Hoodlum

Posts: 10254

Sacramento, California, US

ravens laughter wrote:

actually primal, this is the 4th photographer from here that I know of that has been arrested on similar charges. MM hasn't been implicated yet.... I think it was smart when tyler made the decision to oust under 16 year old models.... a smarter decision still would be to oust minors all together.

Lots of  fashion models start at around 16 and sometimes earlier, this site is not just for T&A models so the age 16 rules stands.

Nov 28 06 05:58 pm Link

Photographer

Chris Beyond

Posts: 1526

Tustin, California, US

Scary. I had to leave a tag...a simple one... Just in case. Better safe than sorry.

Nov 28 06 06:00 pm Link

Photographer

nevar

Posts: 14670

Fort Smith, Arkansas, US

KM von Seidl wrote:

An arrest does not equal conviction.

An accusation does not mean fact.

you'll see I only said arrested... i did not say that they were guilty.

If the site is to allow minors, then it should be a little more technologically advanced to not allow minors in areas where they should not have access. The 18+ filters do not work.... I have a minor who has modeled for me leave a comment on one of my nudes.

By pushing the minimum age for models on MM to 18 Tyler would further insulate himself from any blame of putting models in harms way via the myspace newstory template.

Nov 28 06 06:01 pm Link

Photographer

nevar

Posts: 14670

Fort Smith, Arkansas, US

Dan Hood  mm/moderator wrote:

Lots of  fashion models start at around 16 and sometimes earlier, this site is not just for T&A models so the age 16 rules stands.

dan, it isn't my website.... so what i say has no effect.... however I think I am allowed as a member to give my opinion.... whether that opinion is heard or not is up to tyler. I am just saying it would be a smart move.

BTW not every model who is over 18 here is a T&A model.

Nov 28 06 06:04 pm Link

Photographer

dgold

Posts: 10302

Pawtucket, Rhode Island, US

...an unfortunate crime - alledged.
I would, however, add that the world is infested with scum- they come in all colors and nationalities and various stages of mental illness.
A minor should not be with a man of age without supervision and parental awareness and presence in many kinds/types of situations.
The alledged crime was/is not a reflection on the photography profession.

Nov 28 06 06:06 pm Link

Photographer

Hoodlum

Posts: 10254

Sacramento, California, US

ravens laughter wrote:

dan, it isn't my website.... so what i say has no effect.... however I think I am allowed as a member to give my opinion.... whether that opinion is heard or not is up to tyler. I am just saying it would be a smart move.

BTW not every model who is over 18 here is a T&A model.

I'm just letting you know the age 16 issue has been discussed a lot in the mod forum and the ruling from on high is 16.

Nov 28 06 06:07 pm Link

Model

Amanda Padilla

Posts: 1772

New York, New York, US

Um it was pretty easy to find this guy on MM!

Nov 28 06 06:10 pm Link

Model

Amanda Padilla

Posts: 1772

New York, New York, US

Um it was pretty easy to find this guy on MM!

Nov 28 06 06:10 pm Link

Photographer

nevar

Posts: 14670

Fort Smith, Arkansas, US

yep

Nov 28 06 06:11 pm Link

Model

Amanda Padilla

Posts: 1772

New York, New York, US

you think the mods are going to get rid of his profile?

Nov 28 06 06:13 pm Link

Photographer

nevar

Posts: 14670

Fort Smith, Arkansas, US

no, because this is only an arrest. perhaps if this person is convicted they might... but who knows. BTW there is the chance that the person you found and the person in the news story are not the same person. I wouldn't tag his port with accusatory stuff because that could be seen as slander.

Nov 28 06 06:16 pm Link

Photographer

Robert Randall

Posts: 13890

Chicago, Illinois, US

Dan Hood  mm/moderator wrote:
Some teenage girl has cried abuse and we are ready to hang him. I'd wait for more facts to come out.

The fact is we don't know if she is lying or not, we don't know what the cops found. It amazes me that one girl can cry fowl and we are ready to start banging the Crucifiction  drum.

How abut we wait until more real facts emerge before we destroy him.

I'm with you Dan! And so is Cindy, the neighbors daughter that's sitting on my lap right now.

Nov 28 06 06:16 pm Link

Photographer

photosbydmp

Posts: 3808

Shepparton-Mooroopna, Victoria, Australia

Jeff Marsh wrote:
String him up by his balls in the town square saturday at noon!!

now thats the way to do it.

Nov 28 06 06:16 pm Link

Model

Amanda Padilla

Posts: 1772

New York, New York, US

It has to be the same guy, the link u posted it from a Utah news station, the guys MM profile is also in Utah, it has to be the same guy.

Nov 28 06 06:20 pm Link

Photographer

XtremeArtists

Posts: 9122

Amanda Padilla wrote:
you think the mods are going to get rid of his profile?

Is Ben gay?

Nov 28 06 06:21 pm Link

Photographer

nevar

Posts: 14670

Fort Smith, Arkansas, US

There are two other people in my community with my name..... One is a tax evasionist, and the other is a jazz sax player. My community is only about 250,000 people.

It doesn't have to be the same guy.

Nov 28 06 06:22 pm Link

Model

Amanda Padilla

Posts: 1772

New York, New York, US

okay okay your right smile

Nov 28 06 06:23 pm Link

Photographer

Mikel Featherston

Posts: 11103

San Diego, California, US

Bob Randall Photography wrote:

I'm with you Dan! And so is Cindy, the neighbors daughter that's sitting on my lap right now.

Teaching her how to give good lapdances?

Nov 28 06 06:25 pm Link

Photographer

Veteres Vitri

Posts: 1994

MAYLENE, Alabama, US

Amanda Padilla wrote:
It has to be the same guy, the link u posted it from a Utah news station, the guys MM profile is also in Utah, it has to be the same guy.

Provo is not a little po-dunk utah town.  I know it's in fly over country but come on.

There are over 10 people in birmingham with my name,  20 in nashville and i'm sure several hundred in new york or l.a.  My name isn't john smith either.

All we have right now is a name.  Names are very common things.  Now if we had a ssn that would be a different story. 

I don't condone or endorse child abuse.  I do endorse waiting till all the facts come out before we chop off someone's nuts.

Nov 28 06 06:28 pm Link

Photographer

nevar

Posts: 14670

Fort Smith, Arkansas, US

Amanda Padilla wrote:
okay okay your right smile

although with a little research on other websites like OMP and myspace, might prove you right amanda

Nov 28 06 06:29 pm Link