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Photographer

Allure Vision

Posts: 1438

Atlanta, Georgia, US

I know this post is going to get a lot of attention because of the title. But, I have a question. Yes I am a black photographer and the majority of the women I shoot are black women. The women of other races seem to be more open to topless or even full nudes on an artistic level. Or is it just my understanding? In my opinion I think nudity is an art form and can be explored. What else can be more natural. What more can be seen more beautiful? I have started to believe that more black women see nudity as porn. But when a woman of another race does it, it then becomes art.

"Allure"

Oct 17 06 03:00 am Link

Photographer

Bruce Talbot

Posts: 3850

Los Angeles, California, US

::: sigh :::

Oct 17 06 03:10 am Link

Photographer

Ransomaniac

Posts: 12588

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Bruce Talbot wrote:
::: sigh :::

**chuckles**

Oct 17 06 03:17 am Link

Model

Shyly

Posts: 3870

Pasadena, California, US

Bruce Talbot wrote:
::: sigh :::

You don't count.  Everybody gets naked for Superman.

Oct 17 06 03:18 am Link

Photographer

UnoMundo

Posts: 47532

Olympia, Washington, US

location, location , location !

Oct 17 06 03:19 am Link

Photographer

Ransomaniac

Posts: 12588

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Shyly wrote:

You don't count.  Everybody gets naked for Superman.

Well what about me?  I'm more like Jimmy, the Dailey Planet mail room guy, and I have no problem finding nudie models.  Black or otherwise. 


Hmmmm maybe my mail bag is clothing kryptonite.

Oct 17 06 03:21 am Link

Photographer

Allure Vision

Posts: 1438

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Don't be scared to reply, did I strike a nerve somewhere?

Oct 17 06 03:22 am Link

Photographer

UnoMundo

Posts: 47532

Olympia, Washington, US

well, you are in Tennessee !

Oct 17 06 03:25 am Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

Oh come on, they're in their underwear... Do you really need to see nipples?

Oct 17 06 03:31 am Link

Photographer

Ransomaniac

Posts: 12588

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Iris Swope wrote:
Oh come on, they're in their underwear... Do you really need to see nipples?

Yes. :-)

Oct 17 06 03:32 am Link

Photographer

UnoMundo

Posts: 47532

Olympia, Washington, US

Iris Swope wrote:
Oh come on, they're in their underwear... Do you really need to see nipples?

Yes, nipples and pimples !

Oct 17 06 03:32 am Link

Photographer

Allure Vision

Posts: 1438

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Ransom J wrote:

Yes. :-)

LLLLLOOOOLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oct 17 06 03:34 am Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

heh... maybe they don't wanna look like strippers....

   Seriously though, I've seen enough naked people on MM, that I don't think that there is any bias as to race. But I don't shoot naked women either... Maybe if I were trying, I'd notice something different

Oct 17 06 03:34 am Link

Photographer

Ransomaniac

Posts: 12588

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Iris Swope wrote:
heh... maybe they don't wanna look like strippers....

You say that as if there's something wrong with it.

Oct 17 06 03:35 am Link

Photographer

Bruce Talbot

Posts: 3850

Los Angeles, California, US

Shyly wrote:
You don't count.  Everybody gets naked for Superman.

Ransom J wrote:
Well what about me?  I'm more like Jimmy, the Dailey Planet mail room guy, and I have no problem finding nudie models.  Black or otherwise. 


Hmmmm maybe my mail bag is clothing kryptonite.

:::: flashes Jimmy ::::

Oct 17 06 03:40 am Link

Photographer

CreativeSandBoxStudio

Posts: 1984

London, England, United Kingdom

With anything as an artist, it's how you approach your work and how the model becomes comfortable with you. Give someone a knockout image and they'll be drawn to you, give the same person a lackless image and that is why you will get reactions to not wanting to shoot with you in the nude form...bring comfort to that person on ther other side of the camera and you will be rewared

Oct 17 06 03:42 am Link

Photographer

Ransomaniac

Posts: 12588

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

AlexAlexander/Moderator wrote:
With anything as an artist, it's how you approach your work and how the model becomes comfortable with you. Give someone a knockout image and they'll be drawn to you, give the same person a lackless image and that is why you will get reactions to not wanting to shoot with you in the nude form...bring comfort to that person on ther other side of the camera and you will be rewared

Yes!  Rewarded!






With BOOBIES!

Oct 17 06 03:45 am Link

Model

Paris Finesse718

Posts: 20

Richmond, Virginia, US

i love posing nude!

Oct 17 06 03:59 am Link

Photographer

Bruce Talbot

Posts: 3850

Los Angeles, California, US

Paris Finesse718 wrote:
i love posing nude!

DIBS!


edit: (( tippy toes back to profile and checks age ...... whewh! ))

Oct 17 06 04:01 am Link

Photographer

Ransomaniac

Posts: 12588

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Bruce Talbot wrote:

DIBS!

RATS!

**that super speed gets me every time**



***shuffle walks away***

Oct 17 06 04:02 am Link

Photographer

Allure Vision

Posts: 1438

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Paris Finesse718 wrote:
i love posing nude!

So ya'll are telllin me that I need to get to Richmond????

Oct 17 06 04:09 am Link

Photographer

Lotus Photography

Posts: 19253

Berkeley, California, US

Allure Vision wrote:
I know this post is going to get a lot of attention because of the title. But, I have a question. Yes I am a black photographer and the majority of the women I shoot are black women. The women of other races seem to be more open to topless or even full nudes on an artistic level. Or is it just my understanding? In my opinion I think nudity is an art form and can be explored. What else can be more natural. What more can be seen more beautiful? I have started to believe that more black women see nudity as porn. But when a woman of another race does it, it then becomes art.

"Allure"

taking the first zip code in a list for nashville tenn, 37201, i browsed mm, there are 11 black models (both genders) and 31 total (both genders -no preference)-within 5 miles..

i'm tripping on your question big time, i'm remembering a study that showed that black children prefered white dolls, i remember seeing those old national geographics, racial stereotyping in general..

my family comes from abolitionalists -people who campaigned for the aboltion of slavery (not people who like abalone), one of my ancestors was lincoln's secty of the treasury, we got an earful growing up, it was good

in 1962 when i was 12 we traveled to florida from connecticut for a december vacation, when we got below the mason dixon line we started to see segregation, i was shocked to see a 'white' drinking fountain beside a 'colored' drinking fountain... i stared at it for a few minutes..

just reading your question is kind.. 40, 45 years ago the idea of a black man photographing a white woman nude would have been unheard of, the fact that it's become routine enough for you to ask your question  in my short life is pretty cool..

thanks for pointing out the progress we have made  - although, be it as it may, in the narrow field of the arts...

Oct 17 06 04:10 am Link

Photographer

Benjamen McGuire

Posts: 3991

Portland, Oregon, US

Like me, they probably have an idea of what 'artistic nude' means to you. If you show clothed work that they find artistic maybe they'd be more willing to do artistic nudes.

Oct 17 06 04:10 am Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

lotusphoto wrote:
taking the first zip code in a list for nashville tenn, 37201, i browsed mm, there are 11 black models (both genders) and 31 total (both genders -no preference)-within 5 miles..

i'm tripping on your question big time, i'm remembering a study that showed that black children prefered white dolls, i remember seeing those old national geographics, racial stereotyping in general..

my family comes from abolitionalists -people who campaigned for the aboltion of slavery (not people who like abalone), one of my ancestors was lincoln's secty of the treasury, we got an earful growing up, it was good

in 1962 when i was 12 we traveled to florida from connecticut for a december vacation, when we got below the mason dixon line we started to see segregation, i was shocked to see a 'white' drinking fountain beside a 'colored' drinking fountain... i stared at it for a few minutes..

Dude, I just watched a special about civil rights on PBS... It was showing 1965... I was like, what the heck, that was only 41 years ago... I'm almost 27... It seems so strange that stuff can change that fast....

Oct 17 06 04:15 am Link

Photographer

Lotus Photography

Posts: 19253

Berkeley, California, US

Iris Swope wrote:

Dude, I just watched a special about civil rights on PBS... It was showing 1965... I was like, what the heck, that was only 41 years ago... I'm almost 27... It seems so strange that stuff can change that fast....

41 take away 27...hmm, 14

you look at my childhood years the way i look at 1936..., the way i see old newsreels

Oct 17 06 04:20 am Link

Model

Paris Finesse718

Posts: 20

Richmond, Virginia, US

Iris Swope wrote:

Dude, I just watched a special about civil rights on PBS... It was showing 1965... I was like, what the heck, that was only 41 years ago... I'm almost 27... It seems so strange that stuff can change that fast....

things havent changed that fast...only SOME things have changed......our country is not as closed minded... but ways still linger..............


but BACK 2modeling... yea come to VA! lol
i like the artistic nude..and im just getting really into sho0ting different body parts......

id love to sho0t nude in the woods, with very dramatic earth tone make up and wild hair.......w0w....

Oct 17 06 04:22 am Link

Photographer

Brian Hillburn

Posts: 2442

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Come to Vegas Allure. I'll find ya a few who will get "nekkid" for ya. But ya gotta shoot fast, cuz once the song ends, it's time to put another 20 in the jukebox...so to speak...lol

Oct 17 06 04:26 am Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

Paris Finesse718 wrote:

things havent changed that fast...only SOME things have changed......our country is not as closed minded... but ways still linger..............

I dunno, I was watching it with my mouth hanging open...

  People can say whatever they want in forums (not you ; in other stupid race topics) but it's nothing like being beat by Sheriffs, because you want to vote...that's just plain stupid...  But I've never been in Mississppi either, and am now not so sure that I ever want to go...

Oct 17 06 04:33 am Link

Photographer

Allure Vision

Posts: 1438

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Paris Finesse718 wrote:

things havent changed that fast...only SOME things have changed......our country is not as closed minded... but ways still linger..............


but BACK 2modeling... yea come to VA! lol
i like the artistic nude..and im just getting really into sho0ting different body parts......

id love to sho0t nude in the woods, with very dramatic earth tone make up and wild hair.......w0w....

That's what i'm talkin about.


I didn't mean for this thread to become a racial issue and we don't need to start talkin about the march of Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks not gettin out of her seat. OK OK OK she was tired ya'll her dawggzzz were hurtin! So let's bring this back to full scope.

It appears that more black woman are even fearful of nudity being viewed as porn.

Oct 17 06 04:33 am Link

Photographer

Allure Vision

Posts: 1438

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Brian Hillburn wrote:
Come to Vegas Allure. I'll find ya a few who will get "nekkid" for ya. But ya gotta shoot fast, cuz once the song ends, it's time to put another 20 in the jukebox...so to speak...lol

You always have something to say don't you! lol!

Oct 17 06 04:34 am Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

Allure Vision wrote:
That's what i'm talkin about.


It appears that more black woman are even fearful of nudity being viewed as porn.

no, it was the beating on the bridge....
I am the  Chief Thread Hi-jacker... But...

Are you sure it's because they think it will be construed as porn? or could it be... say, because they're not happy with their bodies...
because they have moral qualms about nudity...
because they don't want naked pictures on the internet?
because nude photos, can come back to haunt you in terms of many jobs....

Oct 17 06 04:39 am Link

Photographer

Benjamen McGuire

Posts: 3991

Portland, Oregon, US

nevermind

Oct 17 06 04:43 am Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

Ok, edited to respond to your nevermind

Oct 17 06 04:45 am Link

Photographer

Lotus Photography

Posts: 19253

Berkeley, California, US

Iris Swope wrote:

I am the  Chief Thread Hi-jacker... But...

Are you sure it's because they think it will be construed as porn? or could it be... say, because they're not happy with their bodies...
because they have moral quelms about nudity...
because they don't want naked pictures on the internet?
because nude photos, can come back to haunt you in terms of many jobs....

maybe it's because at some level models are supposed to make you buy the clohes they are wearing, white people have more money to spend on clothes so there are more white models

Oct 17 06 04:45 am Link

Photographer

Benjamen McGuire

Posts: 3991

Portland, Oregon, US

Allure Vision wrote:

we don't need to start talkin about the march of Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks not gettin out of her seat. OK OK OK she was tired ya'll her dawggzzz were hurtin!

Maybe she had a long day posing for artistic nude photos?

Oct 17 06 04:47 am Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

lotusphoto wrote:

maybe it's because at some level models are supposed to make you buy the clohes they are wearing, white people have more money to spend on clothes so there are more white models

Nah, I think he's shooting Glamour models, not fashion\commercial models....
  and umm, since when do I not get to buy clothes?? (There are plenty of black fashion\commerical models, go look in the JcPennys ad)

Oct 17 06 04:47 am Link

Photographer

Benjamen McGuire

Posts: 3991

Portland, Oregon, US

Iris Swope wrote:
Ok, edited to respond to your nevermind

Thanx, I was just being an ass again.

Oct 17 06 04:49 am Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

Iris Swope wrote:
Ok, edited to respond to your nevermind

Cspine wrote:
Thanx, I was just being an ass again.

Yeah, usually I'd have gone along with you, but I was gonna argue that time smile

Oct 17 06 04:49 am Link

Photographer

Lotus Photography

Posts: 19253

Berkeley, California, US

Iris Swope wrote:

Nah, I think he's shooting Glamour models, not fashion\commercial models....
  and umm, since when do I not get to buy clothes?? (There are plenty of black fashion\commerical models, go look in the JcPennys ad)

i was being very general, my guess is advertising is dominated by whites, people with more disposible income.. not saying it's good

Oct 17 06 04:50 am Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

lotusphoto wrote:
i was being very general, my guess is advertising is dominated by whites, people with more disposible income.. not saying it's good

But that's not true. Honestly, if you look at store ads, they might not be evenly divided, but there are plently of black models....

https://akimages.crossmediaservices.com/dyn_rppi/277.0.88.0/jcpenney/large/061015_jc38a_abf02al_hixjs.jpg
2 black people, 2 white people, 1 hispanic, I think

https://akimages.crossmediaservices.com/dyn_rppi/277.0.88.0/jcpenney/large/061015_jc38a_abf04al_1fpfg.jpg
2 white people, 1 black, 1 black or hispanic

https://akimages.crossmediaservices.com/dyn_rppi/277.0.88.0/jcpenney/large/061015_jc38a_abf07al_30b1s.jpg
3 blacks, 5 whites


Personal Opinion...
The OP is just in the wrong area...

Oct 17 06 04:54 am Link