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bzckry foto wrote: Oct 08 06 05:38 am Link Yes! Oct 08 06 05:38 am Link lol ok ok, I'm sure that you're all perfect gentlemen! I've just recently had a deadbeat talk to me for over 2 months about a shoot. Bought me tickets and everything. The day before I was set to fly out... I get an email.. tell you what, I went into my email and copied the message, here it is.. oh and the rate was set to be $300 an hour- "Hi Kristen, That was you that left that message? I was on a ramp with jet engines combined with a poor connection-I didn't know it was you, sorry. I've been busy since we've last spoken. The replies that I received were from many beautiful model and several that offered a lot more than the photo shoot. I know you are engaged, and seem very sweet. I want to do several shoots with you and think I have some good ideas for you. Being forward, if you were comfy with me, and you were being paid well for your photoshoot, are you able to bend a little after the shoot like these other models are doing for me? Forward and interested...you are beautiful and after the last few shoots I've done I am very excited about hopefully working with you..it's just down to the question proposed. Please don't take offense and I hope your answer is as positive as other models in Boston and Syracuse. David" I think that's also why you haven't had a lot of models reply to this post, I think that for a lot of people, who didn't get warning like I did, this is a bad subject and not to be made fun of. So many young girls don't know any better and are afraid to say no. Oct 08 06 05:40 am Link I have a friend known for his extreme fetish photography who used to sleep with his models on a regular basis. I don't know if he was just photographing the women he cheated on his wife with, or if he and the model just happened to hit it off on the set, but he had the pictures to prove it. If ya know what I mean. We were at a jazz club once and he thought the singer performing at the time would make a good model. I thought he had zero chance of getting her to work for him, but he called the singer over after her set, gave her his card and talked with her a bit about doing some head shots (sorry, no pun) and publicity photos in exchange for modeling for one of his projects. A week or so later I was at his studio and he had photos of her, naked, in bondage, using toys and showing everything she had. My friend's adventures went on until one day, his wife slipped into the studio and caught him in the act. She had also found some of his "self portraits with model". His wife got the house (they had just purchased a huge place on the river), the kid (they had adopted him the year before) and major alimony. At the time my friend was in his late 40s, not much to look at, but possessed of the self confidence of an ice salesman at the North Pole with a huge clientele of Eskimos. Doug Oct 08 06 05:40 am Link Could be the quickest way to never have anyone to shoot ever again. Had younger girl (18 or 19ish) flirt quite crazily a year or so back, and quite forward - told her to behave, my assistant is my girlfriend, and she would have KO'd both of us. :-) Oct 08 06 05:43 am Link now all know why you hold a camera! Oct 08 06 06:13 am Link If two grown ups do it on the set when they're there of their own free will, doing a tfcd or whatever that is not a commercial work related thing and they end up getting hot for eachothers and sleep on the set and get a kick out of that then so what? What the hell is what two people do on their free time anything of anyone's business. I think mostly this thread is under the strong influence of the stereotype male 30+ fat photographer with often no appeal to women at all. I personally don't hit on models or anything like that because I cherish my reputation because I really love what I'm doing. I do get a lot of "models" (note I don't do much commerical work invovling models so it's amateur models we're talking about now) who hit on me. I've had models who have started hitting on me on the set and I've had som well how to put this.... offers I wouldn't tell my mother about.... Models don't have to care about their rep it seems because they're if something should happen ofcourse aaaaaalways the victim. Now this was mostly in the beginning of it all. Now I'm shooting with more experience models and even some semipros but still it does happens occasionaly. Maybe that's something you have to live with when you're as hot as me I guess and even though I would never act on any such opportunity myself I wouldn't blame anyone else for doing so. Aslong as there are no hidden agenda from the start and it just happens to happen, well then that's life. Oct 08 06 06:22 am Link photomovement wrote: Perfectly said... Oct 08 06 06:48 am Link Kristin Excell wrote: 11 post? Oct 08 06 06:50 am Link Caroline Ann Martin wrote: Bullshit! Oct 08 06 06:56 am Link Browning Photography wrote: I didn't realize that the FBI got involved with local and state laws. Not to doubt your story, but it doesn't sound like the kind of operation that the FBI would get involved with unless there were national implications. If it is true, I can think of about a hundred more pressing national problems that the FBI should be devoting their (our) resources to. Oct 08 06 07:16 am Link Has never happened to me. Hell, has never even been offered to me! Oct 08 06 07:20 am Link Dan Howell wrote: Ok then I will say it.. Oct 08 06 07:24 am Link Kristin Excell wrote: You're darn right I'm disappointed. I mean, hell, I got into shooting bondage because I thought it would give me a sex life. Instead, all it's done is make money for me. Sheesh! I'd take the sex over the money... Oct 08 06 07:36 am Link Caroline Ann Martin wrote: Stupid? Maybe Oct 08 06 07:39 am Link Kristin Excell wrote: That would be the first red flag for me. now you're very attractive an all...But Flying a 5'7" web model who does no nudes and paying $300 an hour? Why? He could get local girls from agencies for less. I'd say "Things' were always expected. but then it's only my opinion. But your post was a VERY nice fit for this thread! Oct 08 06 07:44 am Link Kristin Excell wrote: Ok I'm not trying to be an ass here, but SERIOUSLY, what kind of work was this going to be for? I mean I know of models that have gotten paid some damn nice rates for commercial work involving no nudes, but that was all set up through an agency for some pretty HUGE companies. Oct 08 06 07:45 am Link Mike Walker wrote: We were thinking the same thing lol. Oct 08 06 07:45 am Link photomovement wrote: Depends on whether or not you use protection. unprofessional So who's a professional? and unethical.... If our politicians don't have ethics, why should anyone else?* Oct 08 06 07:48 am Link Kristin Excell wrote: Was this a serious question? lol Oct 08 06 07:50 am Link Gotta put my 2 cents worth in here. I think things happen when people get together. Any place people work together intimately (and photography is intimate) there is a chance (repeat, chance) something sexual is gonna happen. We are, after all, sexual animals. What amazes me is that there are replies at 4am on a Sunday morning to this post. Oct 08 06 07:56 am Link Damn, it hurts when hot coffee goes out both nostrils! If I'm going this route (and lie my ass off) I'm at least going to make it two models and the stylist is going to take pictures! LOL lotusphoto wrote: Oct 08 06 08:00 am Link you should ask some of the GWC, seems like they are the ones always asking young models to clubs and the fake management companies trolling on this site. In my short 3 days i have been approached by 2 management companies which i thought were not allowed on MM. It seems to me that most of the people on here are looking for young impressionable models, who do not understand what a models is suppose to do and not do. One day perhaps i will write a thread here for all of the new young models on the true facts of the "model life". MM and other sites are basically hunting grounds for some of the most undesirables. In a nut shell, your best bet is to find a good management company or agency. If they do not want you for work then your best bet is to stop modeling. Tammy R Oct 08 06 08:00 am Link TAMMY RENOLDS wrote: Ahhhhh...first post and already she knows everything about modeling life and MM. Oct 08 06 08:03 am Link Tape Her Up wrote: Speak softly and carry a ten foot pole. Oct 08 06 08:05 am Link TAMMY RENOLDS wrote: GLURG... Oct 08 06 08:22 am Link H Search Photography wrote: Yes! Oct 08 06 08:23 am Link photomovement wrote: stupid: depends on where you're shooting.... Oct 08 06 08:27 am Link I have alot of stripper cliental that make sexual comments all through out the photoshoot because they are use to teasing men in the club, but i just ignore it, because, well their strippers. Oct 08 06 08:33 am Link oldguysrule wrote: If theres wronkled bedsheets chances are it had already happend that day..... Oct 08 06 08:35 am Link Bob Mares Photography wrote: It's probably a nervous defect ... not all strippers do that. Oct 08 06 08:36 am Link Tape Her Up wrote: Hey, one year experience there. And the rates are: Oct 08 06 08:39 am Link I start at $50 an hour for fully clothed bondage, $75 an hour for topless. On rare occassion I'll go higher, but only if the model is a bonafide superstar. Oct 08 06 08:41 am Link Eric S. wrote: says who....lol Oct 08 06 08:51 am Link Pat Thielen wrote: to paraphrase federal marshal willinholly Oct 08 06 09:02 am Link Pat Thielen wrote: I think he is saying, If sex is all you want then sex is all you'll get. Oct 08 06 09:08 am Link TAMMY RENOLDS wrote: Your first post! Congradulations! Oct 08 06 09:08 am Link Cecil Sharps wrote: ah, grasshopper...you have much to learn... Oct 08 06 09:09 am Link Jack North wrote: Agreed.... Oct 08 06 09:15 am Link Kristin Excell wrote: Unless this was a job that involved MUA's, Stylists, Art Directors, Assistants, and a REAL Client, you should have known that $300 an hour is Cocksucker Rates! Oct 08 06 09:16 am Link |