Forums > General Industry > When meeting a model (Shake, Hug, Kiss)

Model

Mz Machina

Posts: 1754

Chicago, Illinois, US

It depends.... always a handshake first some times a hug at the end , some photogrpahers i work with are friends of sorts as well and get hugs....

Meeting some one for the first time,of course  I like it when asked if they can give a kiss on the hand or on the top of my right foot... but that is not necccessary at photoshoots...

Oct 07 06 06:59 pm Link

Model

Mz Machina

Posts: 1754

Chicago, Illinois, US

Oooops double post

Oct 07 06 06:59 pm Link

Model

Urheartdesires

Posts: 2853

Kizzy  wrote:

Me too!

I agree!

Oct 07 06 07:01 pm Link

Model

Urheartdesires

Posts: 2853

Rena wrote:
Upon meeting a photographer I've not worked with it ususally starts with a handshake and ends with a hug.

Me too.  I agree!

Oct 07 06 07:03 pm Link

Photographer

Hadyn Lassiter

Posts: 2898

New Haven, Connecticut, US

quiver?

Oct 07 06 10:30 pm Link

Photographer

David Birdsong

Posts: 1789

Pontiac, Michigan, US

Kizzy  wrote:

Actually, the old, fat, ugly ones get the biggest hugs coz they are usually the nicest!  Of course, I haven't ever personally worked with anyone with that description...ALL of the photographers I have worked with have been gorgeous!   ;-)

Yes I am one of the nicest photographers around and yes  one of the most huggable too.. (My Father got more hugs from women than any man that ever lived.. Must be something in our genes.. smile )
But since you only work with gorgeous photographers, I guess that leaves me out of any chance of ever shooting you Kizzy.. I am about as ugly and fat as they come.. sad

Dave  smile

Oct 08 06 05:37 am Link

Photographer

- null -

Posts: 4576

Kizzy  wrote:
Actually, the old, fat, ugly ones get the biggest hugs

Does this mean Jabba The Hutt would score on the first date?

Oct 08 06 05:54 am Link

Model

Caroline Ann Martin

Posts: 1736

Williamsport, Pennsylvania, US

lavive wrote:
Well it's late at night, and I'm looking foward to shooting with a few models over the weekend and beginning of the week, provided I dont get weighed down by my classes (gogo BScBiol) and it got me thinking.  The models I have dealt with have all been friends or people I know through friends, and when we first meet for the first time or for a shoot I usually give them a hug.

Now, for someone I didn't know, in the interest of being professional I would probably opt out for the hand shake.  But, from a models point of view, what I want to create is an atmosphere of trust and comfort, and the hand shake comes off as strict, formal and organized, and thats not necessarily what I want to portray in the photos.  A hug on the other hand through the physical contact and embracing, creates that relaxed, warm atmosphere.  The more comfortable the model is with me, the better the photos will turn out, it's about creating that trust, and comfort.  Kiss?  Meh, out of the question haha, I just put that in there so someone would read my thread haha.

I think im cute lol... or at least that's what I tell myself in the mirror, it's not meant so allude to anything sexual, but to break the ice and discomfort some may feel when working with someone new.

So my question to the all wise knowing MM community, what do you do, expect, or think about it?  When you first meet a new model/photographer hand shake, hug?  Comments, concerns...  Happy discussions!

A hand shake is fine, along with good eye contact and a smile. Any thing else and it's a good way to start off things with an uncomfortable feeling.  Remember, both model and photographer are professionals and as in any professional situation, a hug is not appropriate, especially on first meeting.  I have on occassion asked if it were ok for me to hug a photog goodbye, but only if I feel there was a strong and professional contact made. And it is a professional, quick hug, nothing more.

Oct 08 06 06:53 am Link

Photographer

Vance C McDaniel

Posts: 7609

Los Angeles, California, US

I alway swelcome a new model with a hand shake and a smile. However..After EVERY shoot I have ever had the model has given me a hug and often time a kiss on the cheek. After that, its always the hug and kiss when meeting again.

I even do the MAN hug with the guys..You know the one...Where you JAM the "I am Not Gay" arm in between as you bump shoulders"? LOL

You know you are liked and appriciated when a female model hugs you. Women are not that forthcoming unles you show great character and professionalism.

I see all those hugs as a sign that I am good at what I do, and I am appriciated.


V

Oct 08 06 07:11 am Link

Photographer

shotbytim

Posts: 1040

Baton Rouge, Louisiana, US

On a first meeting, definately a handshake. A hug only has the warm effect you describe after trust and rapport have been established. At the end of the shoot, reach for another handshake and don't be surprised if she offers a hug. Don't expect it, though. One model I've shot with several times, including physical stuff like boosting her up into a tree, smearing mud on her, and carrying her piggyback across a stream, is still at the handshake stage unless the contact is directly related to making a photo, while a couple others are close friends and get a hug hello and a kiss goodbye. Use the handshake unless it's clear she regards you as a friend.

Oct 08 06 07:12 am Link

Photographer

John Van

Posts: 3122

Vienna, Wien, Austria

I'm not a hugger at all. Didn't know it was so popular. So, no hugs from me before or after the shoot. In general I only hug my wife and kids and nobody else.

I start with a handshake and most often end with one too, even if the shoot was real fun and we got along. Sometimes, I give two kisses on the cheek, but that's rare and I only do it when I think the model is fine with it.

I must admit that a handshake feels strange too after a shoot that was fun, especially since I've probably adjusted the model's hair and clothing quite a bit during the shoot (always after I get permission to do so), so I have been more 'intimate' with her than I normally would be with a person I just met a few hours before.

Oct 08 06 12:44 pm Link

Photographer

Henri3

Posts: 7392

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

You're all perverts. I wear rubber gloves if I absolutely must touch a model, and then only with my fingertips.
  Everyone knows models are sex crazed, and I protect my virtue at all costs. It's the proper and professional thing to do.

Oct 09 06 02:45 am Link

Model

AuLa

Posts: 1176

West Hollywood, California, US

I will never forget the time a photographer gave me a hug after the shoot, and I thought it was nice of him. Later out I found that he was photographing down my shirt. That was nice of him  too.... ???????

Oct 09 06 02:47 am Link

Photographer

YeagerVision

Posts: 175

Los Angeles, California, US

Well....when I meet a model, I'm polite, and introduce myself with a nice hand shake....by the time we depart, I F---them, becaue...well....OH JESUS, what an ood question!!!!  Sorry, but if you have to ask how to interact with other humans, then you have more to learn than photography....

Oct 09 06 03:06 am Link

Photographer

Mark Hayes

Posts: 134

Cotacachi, Imbabura, Ecuador

If anything a handshake at first, but have been hugged by many a model as they say their goodbyes and head for the door.

Oct 09 06 04:32 pm Link

Model

CrazyRussianHelicopter

Posts: 3256

Madison, Alabama, US

JM Dean wrote:
Sex unless I'm shooting a male model, then its just a "whats up?"

Wanna shoot?

Oct 09 06 06:39 pm Link

Photographer

Stephen Melvin

Posts: 16334

Kansas City, Missouri, US

Madcitychel wrote:
Wanna shoot?

Remember, I get 60%. It's hard out here for a pimp.

Oct 09 06 07:01 pm Link

Model

Kizzy

Posts: 12249

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

E|||B wrote:

Does this mean Jabba The Hutt would score on the first date?

Uh, no...I would be afraid of his tongue!  LOL

Oct 09 06 07:03 pm Link

Model

CrazyRussianHelicopter

Posts: 3256

Madison, Alabama, US

Stephen Melvin wrote:

Remember, I get 60%. It's hard out here for a pimp.

Anything u say sugar daddy

Oct 09 06 07:04 pm Link

Photographer

Stephen Melvin

Posts: 16334

Kansas City, Missouri, US

Kizzy  wrote:
Uh, no...I would be afraid of his tongue!  LOL

Must...restrain...self.......from.....obvious......................but.......vulgar.....joke........
......in......front..........of........Kizzy.............

Oct 09 06 07:06 pm Link

Model

CrazyRussianHelicopter

Posts: 3256

Madison, Alabama, US

Stephen Melvin wrote:

Must...restrain...self.......from.....obvious......................but.......vulgar.....joke........in......
front..........of........Kizzy.............

Oh Yeah?

And in front of me you can be as obvious and vulgar as you want huh? And I am just supposed to live with that now and suck it up? huh?

Oct 09 06 07:08 pm Link

Model

Kizzy

Posts: 12249

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

David Birdsong wrote:

Yes I am one of the nicest photographers around and yes  one of the most huggable too.. (My Father got more hugs from women than any man that ever lived.. Must be something in our genes.. smile )
But since you only work with gorgeous photographers, I guess that leaves me out of any chance of ever shooting you Kizzy.. I am about as ugly and fat as they come.. sad

Dave  smile

No, I didn't say I only work with gorgeous photographers...just that all the ones I have worked with just HAPPENED to be gorgeous!  *wink wink*  And then I went on to say I was just trying to get brownie points with them!  Do you suppose it worked?  LOL  I haven't given up on shooting with you yet!

Oct 09 06 07:08 pm Link

Model

Kizzy

Posts: 12249

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

Stephen Melvin wrote:
Must...restrain...self.......from.....obvious......................but.......vulgar.....joke........
......in......front..........of........Kizzy.............

Don't you remember how gross his tongue was in Star Wars?  Yuk, disgusting!  LOL  But you can go ahead and tell your joke, I know you are about to pop holding it in!


;-)

Oct 09 06 07:10 pm Link

Photographer

Gary Blanchette

Posts: 5137

Irvine, California, US

JM Dean wrote:
Sex unless I'm shooting a male model, then its just a "whats up?"

See, I try to tell my wife this but she just doesn't seem to understand... smile

Oct 09 06 07:15 pm Link

Photographer

Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

My doctor hugs me when I go in for my yearly physicals.
I wonder what's up with that?

He does his job well, so I cut him some slack.

https://i.pbase.com/o5/58/623858/1/68266142.D0bOlvDi.200610082363w.jpg

Oct 09 06 07:25 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Reese Photography

Posts: 21622

Brandon, Florida, US

Click Hamilton wrote:
My doctor hugs me when I go in for my yearly physicals.
I wonder what's up with that?

He does his job well, so I cut him some slack.

https://i.pbase.com/o5/58/623858/1/68266142.D0bOlvDi.200610082363w.jpg

It might be that, like my Dr. with me, he knows that every time he sees you he can call the wife and say "pack your bags we're going to Europe for the Summer."

Oct 09 06 07:33 pm Link

Photographer

Arobeck

Posts: 175

Perth, Western Australia, Australia

I always begin with a hug and we wind it up with a cigerette......thing is, I dont smoke, whats with that?!

On the odd occasion I slip out and leave without the model knowing.

Oct 09 06 07:34 pm Link

Photographer

FemmeArt

Posts: 880

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

I usually begin with a goofy smile and a hearty handshake.  Then, I lick her face

Oct 09 06 07:36 pm Link

Photographer

Stephen Melvin

Posts: 16334

Kansas City, Missouri, US

Madcitychel wrote:
Oh Yeah?

And in front of me you can be as obvious and vulgar as you want huh? And I am just supposed to live with that now and suck it up? huh?

Well, Kizzy is a lady. You're just my fiancée.

Oct 09 06 07:37 pm Link

Model

CrazyRussianHelicopter

Posts: 3256

Madison, Alabama, US

Stephen Melvin wrote:

Well, Kizzy is a lady. You're just my fiancée.

Don't wake an animal in me, darling - you don't want me to be me, do you?!
)

Oct 09 06 09:18 pm Link

Photographer

Stephen Melvin

Posts: 16334

Kansas City, Missouri, US

Madcitychel wrote:
Don't wake an animal in me, darling - you don't want me to be me, do you?!
)

It usually takes a couple of drinks and a little Sade to awaken your inner animal, Sweetie. smile

Oct 09 06 09:23 pm Link

Photographer

Alexei Fomin

Posts: 944

Ypsilanti, Michigan, US

if i want to be a good boy:

https://www.hugpug.com/photos/sheba_layout/sheba_shake.jpg


Googled pic, no idea who took it.

Oct 09 06 09:34 pm Link

Model

Kassandra

Posts: 1076

Coram, New York, US

I think its a chemistry sort of thing. I think handshakes are awkward for the most part so when i meet someone i dont instantly have the urge to touch them to insure reality or what not. However if they offer to shake i have no quarrel over it.^_^

Hugs are alright if you have the chemistry for it.But to be honest i can think of only like..one or 2 photographers at BEST i wouldnt feel funky hugging. Also, id rather hug prior the shoot. Odds are after a shoot im wondering if i need a shower because some can be kinda sweaty( ie: One of my last shoots in August i was wearing a giant velvet ballgown on like a 80degree day and running around climbing,etc, id be mortified if someone asked for a hug right then!)

Oct 09 06 09:39 pm Link

Photographer

Alexei Fomin

Posts: 944

Ypsilanti, Michigan, US

If unsure for whatever reason, i stretch out an open hand so it can be interpreted as both a handshake offer or a "let me help you with your bag of clothes". usually they set down the bag, shake, and then i verbally offer to help with their luggage. if they just hand me the luggage, then i have to think of another way to figure it out.

Oct 09 06 09:41 pm Link

Model

gsvb

Posts: 190

New York, New York, US

Handshake
Its a business

Oct 09 06 09:44 pm Link

Photographer

Ragnar

Posts: 432

Carson City, Nevada, US

Sometimes nothing is the best thing to do other than a hello. It all depends on the model and how friendly and open they are.

Oct 09 06 09:45 pm Link

Photographer

dgold

Posts: 10302

Pawtucket, Rhode Island, US

...I agree that a handshake and friendly hello is a good beginning, the signing of the Model Release Form and then the shoot.
Today, as with most of my shoots over 35 years of sensual/artistic and glamour photography, the model initiated the kisses on 2-cheeks and a hug in saying so long-until next shoot.
A touch of time and heart is welcomed by a show of mutual respect.

Oct 09 06 09:50 pm Link

Photographer

Vegas Alien

Posts: 1747

Armington, Illinois, US

Until I know them well, I start with a full tongue kiss.

Oct 09 06 10:34 pm Link

Photographer

Peter Ljungkvist

Posts: 12

Knäred, Halland, Sweden

Aussie Guevara wrote:
I will never forget the time a photographer gave me a hug after the shoot, and I thought it was nice of him. Later out I found that he was photographing down my shirt. That was nice of him  too.... ???????

Maybe he wanted to really utilize depth of field? (okey so my humour sucks....)

I got a modelfriend who did nude art.
After they were done it turned out it wasn't a wideangle lens that she thought but that he had been photographing her lowerparts only the whole time....

That said I got pictures of bodyparts myself that I think are nice, never the lower region though because seriously that's really just nasty.


To answer the topic also.
New models it's always the handshake.
After then it really depends on the models.
I think it's interresting because I've thought about it a lot.
I don't mind hugging my female friends but when it comes to models I'm much more restrictive. I've gone as escort for a few models to photopgrahers.

And some photographers I've just wanted to puke on.
One wanted a 16year old girl to pose sexy and he was like 50.
Now she didn't mind though but personally it just gave me the creeps.
Then he took the intiative for the hug after the session and maybe it's just my negative attitude here but the way he smiled then just seemed creepy to me too.

So unless the model insist always the shake.

Oct 09 06 11:46 pm Link

Model

Christine

Posts: 1300

Los Angeles, California, US

I believe in the shake.

Oct 10 06 03:41 am Link