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When meeting a model (Shake, Hug, Kiss)
D. Brian Nelson wrote: Actually, the old, fat, ugly ones get the biggest hugs coz they are usually the nicest! Of course, I haven't ever personally worked with anyone with that description...ALL of the photographers I have worked with have been gorgeous! ;-) Oct 07 06 09:55 am Link In NYC, a handshake is always best when first meeting a new model. Always keep it professional -- it's a business meeting, not a date -- and act accordingly. Oct 07 06 10:06 am Link I say a handshake is always good... can never go wrong with that... From the moment she or he walks in the door... between the model and photographer trust and comfort should be establishing itself. Just cus you hug me doesnt mean I am all of a sudden going to think to myself wow I feel more trust and comfort... lol hehe just my opinion *s Oct 07 06 10:11 am Link Gigi Model wrote: Why would you continue this shoot? Oct 07 06 10:14 am Link Jim Ball wrote: Exactly what I was thinking. I always begin and end with handshakes. Better to err on the side of caution than go in for a hug and have the model awkwardly pull back, put her hand on your chest to stop you, and say "Um, what are you doing?" Oct 07 06 10:14 am Link JM Dean wrote: ditto. i rarely state things absolutely, but i believe a handshake is the right way to start a shoot with a new model you have never met. usually the shoot ends with a hug, but that is a mutual thing. it is always best if the photographer does not initiate anything that is unwanted! Oct 07 06 10:21 am Link Kizzy wrote: So THAT'S why you won't shoot with me huh? Just 'cause i'm not "GORGEOUS!" (Just so everyone knows, this is said with tongue firmly planted in cheek). Oct 07 06 10:25 am Link Shoots are business, handshakes all around. If I shoot friends then they might get a hug. But otherwise its all business. I cant remember the last business meeting that I saw where all the execs gave each other big hugs at the end of the meeting. Oct 07 06 10:32 am Link I shake their hands. Make sure to squeeze her hand very, very hard. How hard you squeeze is directly related to the size of your... well, y'know... and you want to send the right message. Speak very loudly, too, and always in sports anecdotes. It's a sign of virility. She'll swoon. On the shoot, only give directions in a huddle. Also, give lots of high fives and when she gets a pose right, slap her on the ass and shout "Way to show 'em how it's done!!" I've found it helpful to carry a clipboard when doing this. You'll fairly ooze machismo. She won't know what to do with herself. If you can't bag her that way then you have a serious problem... probably something to do with the size of your car (not big enough). Or you could, y'know, treat it like the business endeavor that it is and shake her hand the way you would any other person. I find it difficult to believe that she'd find your professionalism insulting... Oct 07 06 10:42 am Link I don't have a problem with any of the above options. I don't get too worried about it but I can see how it could be a problem with the wrong girl. Handshakes are safest until you get to knoe the person better. You can be sure you won't offend them upfront with a handshake and then you can get an idea of who they are and judge whether or not a hug or kiss on the cheek is ok by them. Oct 07 06 11:04 am Link Eric Haywood wrote: Then you can put your own hand on your chest and start shouting "Here comes the big one! I'm coming home, Elizabeth! Oct 07 06 12:18 pm Link I appreciate the honest comments, it's what I was thinking and leaning towards anyways. The uh...forum troll comments not so much lol...but keep em coming. Is it true about the shirt and 1000 posts? Hurray for being 1% there, 990 to go ='( Oct 07 06 01:28 pm Link When I first meet up with a model, I usually shake hands (although it is up to her) as well as shake hands with her escort. At the end of the shoot, it's usually hugs all around. It's rare that a model doesn't give me a hug when we're done. We have fun at my shoots. Oct 07 06 01:39 pm Link Vestige wrote: The only time I was actually hugged by a stranger they *were* drunk. Oct 07 06 01:44 pm Link A handshake is safe and professional. After you get to know her better, say after the first shoot or second ... then go for the hug. You seem like you are a really nice guy, but there is always someone who will make more out of your intentions even when it is just a hug. When you just meet someone, hold back enough so that you don't come accross as overly friendly ... or creepy. I am also a photographer who shoots weddings, and I would NEVER hug the bride (or groom, LOL) when I "first" meet them. But after they hire me, it has happened that if they hire me, we do an engagement shoot, and we get to know each other pretty well ... by the time the wedding is over, I will most likely be giving the bride a hug, and even the groom in cases where he seems confortable hugging the guys too. If you are not sure, then don't hug. I watch Jay Leno on the Tonight Show! He sometimes hugs his guests, both female and male ... depending on the comfort level or how well he knows the guest. He may even give some female guests a kiss on the cheek. Otherwise it's a handshake. Go with your instinct and how well you know them. Oct 07 06 01:48 pm Link lavive wrote: I shake until the crack wears off and the Jack Daniles kicks in Oct 07 06 01:51 pm Link I do the old Atlanta Falcons "Bird" dance....it always a great ice breaker! Oct 07 06 01:54 pm Link Of course what really sucks is when you move in for the handshake and they move in for the hug and depending on your heights you either get finger in the bellybutton or boob grab. Oct 07 06 02:02 pm Link Am I the only one - this seems like such an obvious thing to me.... You shake hands when meeting someone new. It doesn't matter if they are a new model, or whatever.... Affection (kisses, hugs), evolves based on the relationship between two people. It's just way too obnoxious and fake hollyweird, to greet a new person with a kiss or hug.. I think the reason why people often depart a shoot with a hug, is because the photographer/model relationship can be more intimate and can evolve a little faster, than a typical business relationship. Kind of like the hairdresser/client, or the masseause/client, or therapist/client. John Oct 07 06 02:04 pm Link I don't touch at all. Extending your hand for a shake is actually a sign of your insecurity. I start with just a smile and friendly chat. Offer water or food. Talk about the shoot and get started by looking at what the model has brought to the set. But at the end of the shoot we (at the very least) give each other a real nice hug:) Oct 07 06 02:06 pm Link SKPhoto wrote: How does a boob grab suck?.. Oct 07 06 02:06 pm Link Well, I think it depends on where you are, I don't know if you can generalize how to start. At least in Europe depends on the country how you say hi, and it depends on where the model's are from, where you are from... In my case depends on the chemistry and my mood that day, I just try to be very polite and nice in the way I talk to the model and to the whole team, so the way I say hi or goodbye comes to a secondary level. But also depends on your personality, the kind of images you want to get, etc. I normally don't hug unless they hug me after the shoot, just two kisses and that's it, you can be warm enough with your words. Oct 07 06 02:17 pm Link handshake it is Oct 07 06 02:21 pm Link Some people hate to be touched. Its hard to know that when you are just meeting someone new. It depends on the model for me. Oct 07 06 02:24 pm Link I don't touch a new model AT ALL unless she initiates it, or until I've asked and been given permission. When somebody's going to be modelling for you, let them set the comfort level.. if they're a friend, it's different, but it's no excuse to say that you're trying to create a comfortable feeling. They'll touch you if they feel like it, right? Oct 07 06 02:27 pm Link We've usually talked enough by the time we shoot that we already have a sense of familiarity with each other. Even so, I always offer a handshake. (I generally try not to enter people's personal space without invitation.) More often than not the model ignores that and gives me a big hug. Oct 07 06 02:31 pm Link lavive wrote: Sex is always a good ice-breaker, and helps to foster a bond between the model and photographer. Oct 07 06 02:34 pm Link Frank McAdam wrote: Oct 07 06 02:38 pm Link Yep...it's all about chemistry. I've done all three and then some but only when it was initiated by the model. ;-) Oct 07 06 02:39 pm Link C R Photography wrote: Well, if he's got boobs to grab, I'd say that's certainly a problem... Oct 07 06 03:07 pm Link To me a handshake at the beginning is going to earn my trust more than a hug... you definitley aren't going to get any reciprocation from me if you hug me from the get go. At the end, a quick friendly hug is fine... do not hold on to me like you're my mother or boyfriend though... Oct 07 06 03:16 pm Link Thuy Anh wrote: Ahhh...I was wondering who that strange guy staring at us through the binoculars and talking into a walkie-talkie was I thought the IRS had finally caught onto me. I'm sure glad I didn't opt for the hug greeting. Whew. Oct 07 06 03:23 pm Link Frank McAdam wrote: I think this might be my problem. I give a handshake on a date. But since I usually buy the models dinner or at least a coffee before our shoots, I expect more. And God forbid they order an extra shot. *okay...sarcasm over* Oct 07 06 03:26 pm Link INever wrote: I used that line on my last job interview. I don't understand why I didn't get it?! Oct 07 06 03:28 pm Link shake the first time you meet the model. On a shoot that goes well, usually a hug will end the shoot (always initiated by the model.) If your pics were good, a hug starts the next shoot Oct 07 06 03:35 pm Link There's no one formula that's right for all occasions. With a new model, I shake hands as a friendly gesture...not too distant, not to close. After a few shoots, it's usually a hug and/or a cheek kiss. But it depends on the chemistry. I get along instantly with some models. Others seem distant, no matter how many shoots. Oct 07 06 03:36 pm Link John Allan wrote: Hey John, As another Californian, I completely agree with you! Hugs with people you've "just met" is far too Hollyweird unless your Dr Phil or something. Oct 07 06 05:10 pm Link 1st time a handskake, 2nd time a hug ,3rd time bed , no seriously i seem to find that 9 times out of 10 a hug is actually expected on photoshots, in the past i offered my hand but usually just found it got grabbed and i was then pullled into a hug, but hey who is complaining ,lol, photoshoots that work should revolve about being comfortable with those involved. Oct 07 06 05:19 pm Link Mark Reese Photography wrote: I said that coz so many of them I worked with are on here...just trying to get brownie points! LOL Oct 07 06 06:41 pm Link I say...cut to the chase. Start with sex, then shoot. Just kidding. Actually, I do handshakes, unless the model moves for a hug first. Oct 07 06 06:47 pm Link |