Photographer
kensee
Posts: 174
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Brian Stewart Photog wrote: I know of several photographers that have assaulted models, it's more common than you would think. Having you photo taken nude is not the same as going to a lawyer. Agree with the last sentence, but how is it that you're able to statistically generalize from your own experience? The sample size is kinda small don't you think?
Model
Tiffany Morgan
Posts: 264
Santa Monica, California, US
Andrea Young wrote: I got this lovely email this morning from a very "proffesional" photographer. No where have I ever said "my hubbie doesn't want me doin nekkie pics" and when I shoot with someone that I have no reference for or dont have an absolute good feel for them I like to bring an escort. Most proffesional and respectful photographers are fine with this why wouldnt they be? weird. Please help me understand this lashing out. Dear Andrea, Between "my hubbie doesn't want me doin nekkie pics" and "can I bring along an escort" this sounds more like a potential train wreck than a great photo shoot....if/when you decide to grow up and take charge of your own life and you want to create some artsy/edgy pics, I'd love to work with you....you have serious potential...again, all the best to you... Actually had this happen to me before...turned into four very heated emails between the two of us (me & the photographer)...lol...some photographers on MM do not like two very common aspects of models on MM: 1. Most of them want to bring a chaperone/escort. 2. Most of them SAY they won't do nudes. (and then they(the models) show nudes in their ports..it confuses them). My advice: Clearly and professionally state what type of shoots you are interested in, and what you are not interested in. They tend to not pick on you so much when you leave out sentences such as "my hubbie doesn't want me doin nekkie pics"..Best of luck! You're beautiful. ~Tiffany C.
Model
CrazyRussianHelicopter
Posts: 3256
Madison, Alabama, US
Alright, Seriously, it's that simple, if you don't like the "rules": You: A) do it B) don't do it C) b...ch abou it till the rest of your days That is why this life is SO interesting - cuz we all make choices, choices, choices. Though will note, as long as your choices don't hurt other's ppl feelings. So just make your choices, and be cool (politically correct).
Model
Tiffany Morgan
Posts: 264
Santa Monica, California, US
Bob Randall Photography wrote: Add this: Willing to do anything for food, screw my husband, bring it on! I think you will get more attention my way. When you get to the studio just tell them you were joking, it's what I do all the time. hehe...the best post I've seen all day...cracks me up ;-) ~Tiffany C.
Model
CrazyRussianHelicopter
Posts: 3256
Madison, Alabama, US
Tony Lawrence wrote: Brian I don't want to take over this thread. You and others mean well I know you do but we have to remember its a big world and models are usually adults and can take care of themselves. Many men (photographers) tend to want to 'protect' models we often have a big brother or parent thing going on. You hear a few stories and become afraid for our friends and models. You for example have a model as a wife (she's a beauty by the way.) what we don't always know is the whole story. There was a photographer on this site accused by a model of trying to lick her ass but she still wanted her TFP shots. Lots of people turned on him and after she got her images posted them with his name in the credits. I spoke up for him as I do when anyone is attacked and noted that if I were this model, screw the photos he's get his butt kicked. The model never returned to say she was sorry and I'm guessing she didn't care. Her concern were her photos and any lie no matter the damage it might cause was fine. Sure some photographers are slime. So are some of those men young women meet at clubs and parties who later rape them. Just don't paint your fellow photographers with the brush of suspicion and fear. Well, you a right, sort of. Let's just say it this way: The chances of me getting wet inside of the building are less then outside. Therefore if I want to bring those chances to 0 or close I'd take an umbrella with me if I go outside.
Model
Kemmie T x10
Posts: 7489
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Looknsee Photography wrote:
Sorry -- that's more stupid than honest. Look at it from the model's point of view. The photographer is a stranger, meeting her at a strange part of town. She should certainly take steps to ensure her own safety. In this particular case, she mentioned that the photographer in question failed to provide references. The photographer was unprofessional in his correspondence (e.g. poor spelling, poor grammar, obnoxious attitude). Given those impressions, any model would be foolish to accept an assignment with that photographer without an escort. Here's my story- As for me, I am not interested in taking nude photos. If a photographer still feels the need to ask me, I politely let them know I am not interested. Its not there business as to why I won't. Also, um not against an eScort, I haven't needed one, but keep in mine models, and photogs can correct me if um incorrect, but models won't ALWAYS be able to use an escort......
Model
Mary Domingo
Posts: 109
Los Angeles, California, US
I wouldn't work with him if I were you... that's just plain rude...
Model
Madalyn
Posts: 1133
Burlington, Vermont, US
oldguysrule wrote: solution... get off the web thus avoiding the web annonymity that inspires all the paranoia. replace the hubs with someone who doesn't think another's body is his property and thus under his control. and finally, let it go. an asshole is an asshole. move on. and watch out for photographers with woodchippers. Haha kinda reminds me of a shot I did, recently...with a saw and me lying on a log...heehee
Photographer
Mark Brummitt
Posts: 40527
Clarkston, Michigan, US
Andrea Young wrote: Well I am new at this. I guess I have given a bad impression of why I do nt do nude modeling. I am glad I can see all your points of views though. I took the husband thing off of my profile as to not cause anymore drama. I just felt like I was being lashed out on. I wasn't lashing out. I just felt there was a conflict in what you were saying. You have the right to do or say anything you choose as it pertains to your career choices but it seems a good idea to be clear and concise.
Photographer
Curt at photoworks
Posts: 31812
Riverside, California, US
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Brian Stewart Photog wrote: I know of several photographers that have assaulted models, it's more common than you would think.... maybe you need different colleagues.... just wondering ...
Photographer
UnoMundo
Posts: 47532
Olympia, Washington, US
Photographer
Curt at photoworks
Posts: 31812
Riverside, California, US
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Peter Dattolo wrote: ... MODEL - no self defense training - six guys with knives surrounding her/him - begging for thier life - try bartering with sexual activities - crying - throwing money and credit cards in front of them - fainting.......then those six guys take all this anyways and leave. ... let's see... a southpark character is coming to mind...
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Photographer
Tony Culture Photoz
Posts: 1555
Bloomfield, New Jersey, US
Andrea Young wrote: I like to bring an escort. Most proffesional and respectful photographers are fine with this why wouldnt they be? weird. Please help me understand this lashing out. Dear Andrea, Between "my hubbie doesn't want me doin nekkie pics" and "can I bring along an escort" this sounds more like a potential train wreck than a great photo shoot....if/when you decide to grow up and take charge of your own life and you want to create some artsy/edgy pics, I'd love to work with you....you have serious potential...again, all the best to you... I am not in support of anyone being disrespectful to anyone, but I always wonder why people are unable to see for themselves, that working with someone who is offensive before even meeting you, is NOT a good idea. Something like that, shouldn't even warrant putting to others, for their opinions. Common sense ought to come in play, and let you know to move on. "next" .
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Model
Kjersti Goodrich
Posts: 184
Seattle, Washington, US
I think if your escort is un-obtrusive, then a respectable photog shouldnt care! I do so too, it helps if you've never met the photog before. He's only hurting himslef by not having you in his photos! And if it's "Implied" nude then whats his problem? "Implied" doesnt mean Stark Naked! Anyway he thinks he's above everyone! And a jerk. You prolly wouldnt have enjoyed the shoot if you had gone, and it would've showed in the photos!
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