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I know this is going to start a lot of drama, but itâs not like I give a shit soâ¦â¦. Hereâs my story, fell free to share yours. I answered a New York Craigâs list ad the other day âTFCD Photographer needed for outdoors shootâ My Email to the Model: âI would like more info on this... Like; What type of project is this? Where will it be shot? Whoâs the model? Where can see some of her photos? Where will my photos be used? Things like that and any other info you can give.â? I thought this was a simple request on my behalf, for information that should have been in the ad. Model: âI would be happy to furnish that information if you would provide samples of your work.â? Ok no problem there. Now Iâm no pro, but I am proud of the work that I do, and Iâm not afraid to show it. So I started to replay (out of reflex) with a link to my Model Mayhem page along with some photos of shots I donât have posted. Then something just snapped, LOL I donât know why but I ended up posting a replay to her ad on Craigâs list. That went like this⦠âYou expect an experience photographer to carry equipment around the hot city all weekend; taken photos of your STUPID ASS. (While paying for their own transportation, lunch, and water) You want the photos retouched so that no one can see that STUPID look in your one good eye. (Hours of work, just to make you happy) You want the photos on a CD in different formats that you can use for your CD cover or whatever. (The Photographer / Photo Editor / Designer, wonât see a dime form the sell of his/her work) Not only do you want all of this and most likely more. You want it all for FREE But only after you view the photographers work, and decide if their good enough to work for you. All of this before you give-up any real info on this project of yours Read this over a few times... maybe the focus will come back into that eye of yours, and youâll start to see how STUPID you really are.â? She ended up calling me a jackass. But itâs not like I give a shit soâ¦â¦.. Jun 02 06 05:35 pm Link um ok you have issues, bipolar maybe ??? sorry but thats what I think. TFP or not it wasn't going to kill you to show her your work first. She may be broke but at the same time she may have friends with money who would pay you also. If she had a look you could use as well. I dont do TFP anymore unless I offer it but since you expressed interest in her TFP offer then wasn't going to kill you to send your link. Chances are she would have like it anyways. Jun 02 06 05:41 pm Link You want a cookie? Jun 02 06 05:41 pm Link I thought it was pretty funny! Jun 02 06 05:42 pm Link Wow...I read your post and was just about to give you an "atta-boy"..until I read your MM profile where you say: I'm willing to do TFCD. end of my comment : ( Oliver Jun 02 06 05:43 pm Link Uhm, it's craigslist... Do you know how many fucking weirdos are on that site? She was right to call you a jackass. You didn't put her in her place, you just burned a bridge for no good reason, and made yourself look crazy in the process. If you think TFCD is so "STUPID" you should never have answered her ad in the first place. Don't be so proud of yourself for being smarmy asshole. Jun 02 06 05:45 pm Link Oliver Cole wrote: Hell, he initially answered her ad as worded (which may have requested work samples initially) KNOWING it was asking for TFP. Then freaked out when she asked to see work samples. He sounds like a lunatic. With one good eye. Jun 02 06 05:45 pm Link uh, yeah. so... um, anyway... having a bad day? Jun 02 06 05:46 pm Link you sure showed her and put her in her place! you da man... i guess. Jun 02 06 05:48 pm Link Uhhhh...HELLO....why respond to a TFP request on craigslist? She was pretty straight forward. You on the other hand have some pent up anger. Maybe go for a walk in the woods or something and breeeaaathe Jun 02 06 05:48 pm Link It's still pretty funny....not the best business practices......but funny.....not something I would choose to do.....but funny. Jun 02 06 05:49 pm Link So you're the guy mucking up CL with useless posts whining about how others do business. Thanks. Jun 02 06 05:49 pm Link wait where is the link to your "high quality photography"? I know you may be newer at shooting but we all grow together and if you burn too many little bridges on your way across the streams of life, You won't have any big ones to support you when you get dumped into the big bad mississippi. Jun 02 06 05:50 pm Link Brian Diaz wrote: WOWZA over 10,000 posts!!! Jun 02 06 05:51 pm Link I always put a model in her place. "Stay in front of the fucking camera, sweetie..." Jun 02 06 05:52 pm Link Jay Bowman wrote: I have learned that some "photographers" Don't like it when you can out shoot them.... Jun 02 06 05:53 pm Link I must admit that is funny as shit.....and yes I agree she should have given better details.....but you definitely over reacted....you never know who will see that and remember it....you're better off politely accepting or declining. There have been TFP shoots I have done that have led to getting paying clientele.....no offense but anyone who catches wind of that will think you're an unstable jackass.....I can't say your points are wrong, but there's no need to burn bridges. Jun 02 06 05:56 pm Link I think I just pulled a muscle laughing... Jun 02 06 05:58 pm Link Experimental Photoworks wrote: Oh, be reasonable. Outshooting me is not particularly difficult. I've grown quite accustomed to it, actually. Jun 02 06 05:59 pm Link Jay Farrell wrote: Lots of people will see it if he posts it for all in a public forum... Jun 02 06 06:00 pm Link Damn! The model asked to see some of your work, that's all. If you had a problem with what she was requesting, you shouldn't have responded to her ad...just move on to the next model...simple as that. No need to insult her like that. Do you often talk to models this way? I hope not. You say "You don't give a sh!t," but maybe you SHOULD because you don't want the word to get around that you're "that psychotic photographer with anger issues." Jun 02 06 06:02 pm Link Hey! I am a photographer with only ONE EYE so I take offense to the remarks! Here is the deal. TFP means BOTH OF YOU must accomidate EACH OTHER! God I am so sick of ego's I could vomit! Jun 02 06 06:06 pm Link I knew this was going to start a lot drama But it's not like I give a......⦠Well you know how it goes Anyway itâs not about the money, and I donât mind helping someone who needs the help. But thatâs just it, if you need help act like it. Donât act like your some super model setting up a top secret photo shoot, refusing to give out any info until your high standards are reached. She asked for the help not me. Jun 02 06 06:09 pm Link dncphotos wrote: Hey! Don't put down the bipolars here! He just probably has a nasty personality disorder. Jun 02 06 06:12 pm Link Digital M A G I C wrote: For someone who seemingly does NOT give a Sh----t you sure do give a sh---t ! Dude, chill. I have seen your work, and I am sure you have seen mine. What in the world is wrong with her asking. Jun 02 06 06:12 pm Link Digital M A G I C wrote: Asking to see your work is not a high standard. Jun 02 06 06:14 pm Link Ho hooo, yeah... if I saw that, no way I'd work with you - you put yourself in your place. I don't have a bad eye and my ass isn't all that stupid, but it sounds like you want to make them look that way - in order to vent general frustration unto one unsuspecting model? I'm also laughing, but at you - you don't even know if this particular girl would demand all these things you implied! I hadn't ever heard of Craiglists, but finally took a look last week - it's impressive if anyone gets serious work from there! The model was likely aware there are some sketchy types on that site, and was just being careful. Probably not the best place to find work, to begin with, but at that rate, you're on there too - so you should understand the uncertainties associated with. That burns so many bridges, you're like, standing on an island by now...  ~S. Jun 02 06 06:16 pm Link ~Krista~ wrote: Borderline because he's short tempered? Jun 02 06 06:16 pm Link theda wrote: Don't forget he most likely was not breast fed as a baby? Jun 02 06 06:17 pm Link There are dozens of both so called models and photographers on Craigâs list who play this pathetic "show me yours and I'll show you mine" game. Here is a challenge, why not try to put up a posting that already has all the relevant information in it??? Jun 02 06 06:18 pm Link Digital M A G I C wrote: a) crap Jun 02 06 06:18 pm Link Scott Evans wrote: Well, that's Psychodynamic/Freudian theory and not terribly relevant to psychopathology (or much of anything else). Maybe he was breastfed for too long? Jun 02 06 06:19 pm Link Brian Diaz wrote: Ooh! C! C! The answer is always C. Jun 02 06 06:21 pm Link Digital M A G I C wrote: No she didn't. She asked for equitable trade. Either way is no excuse to act like a jackass. Jun 02 06 06:22 pm Link To me (if that is how you actually worded your reply to her) all that you did was show an incredible amount of ignorance and a serious lack of maturity on your part. What was the need to call her Stupid? Her STUPID ASS, her STUPID LOOK.... Grow up. A simple reply of, "I'm sorry, but at this time I would like to withdraw my previous offer" would have been just a touch better. Jun 02 06 06:22 pm Link theda wrote: Hmm interesting. I did not get that when I was defending my dissertation in order to get my PhD in Psychology, but then again what do I know LOL! it is all guess work anyway. Jun 02 06 06:22 pm Link theda wrote: I was about to say the same thing. Jun 02 06 06:23 pm Link Ken Long wrote: Sadly, maturity is something that is not in abundance on this site, and many like it Jun 02 06 06:24 pm Link Scott Evans wrote: How log ago were you working on your PhD? By the time I teetered my way into college, Almost all of Freud was considered a quaint historical factoid. Actually, I think he's been discredited too much. But the oral/anal/gental phase thing is still pretty out there. Jun 02 06 06:26 pm Link theda wrote: Exactly. Like theda said, asking to see your work is not a high standard...it's routine. Just because you responded to her ad, she's supposed to be honored and agree to shoot with you without seeing any of your work (and without asking any questions)? She doesn't sound stupid to me...sounds like she knows what she's doing. And as for the high expectations...I didn't see anything in her statements (in your first post) that showed this...maybe you're just assuming that she would want all these things. Jun 02 06 06:29 pm Link |
