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When are the tattoos going to end?
It seems every one who decides they want to model is already inked. I am certainly not anti-tattoo in the personal choice sense, but they are neither unique or edgy at this point. They are also a real pain in the a** if they are inappropriate in a specific image. Yes I know all about coverup and Photoshop but it just is one more thing that adds cost and time to a shoot. Please, can somebody tell folks "enough already!" Peace, Bill Apr 25 06 06:42 am Link William Bell wrote: Well, you told them, but why should anyone listen to you. Apr 25 06 06:52 am Link William Bell wrote: I feel your pain Dude, but trust me (as one who has made a similar post before) this is the wrong crowd to make such statements. Apr 25 06 07:07 am Link Like any other fad, I think the tatoo craze is (thankfully) on the downslope. Just like bellbottoms and long hair were ''so 70's'', and Big Hair was ''so 80's'', in a few years the 'hip' crowd will see tatoos and say that it was ''so 00's''. Buy stock in companies that make Lazer tatoo removal equipment! It'll be hotter than GM! Apr 25 06 07:41 am Link SayCheeZ! wrote: Painters said the same thing about photographers 100 years ago. Be careful what you wish for. Apr 25 06 09:31 am Link William Bell wrote: Come away from the middle-of-the-road a little more often and the body mods won't bother you nearly as much. Apr 25 06 09:33 am Link after the tattoo, we go with piercings, then scarifications, and after that, bodymodifications... (implants, tongue splitting, and so on). so...  one day we will have cyborg  Apr 25 06 09:33 am Link Bill Come away from the middle-of-the-road a little more often and the body mods won't bother you nearly as much. It is not that they bother me so much - I have a whole series of figure studies done of models with pretty serious ink done nearly a decade ago - it is just that now that clients expect very quick turnaround when everything is digital, I can not justify the added time and expense and need to pass on working with models I otherwise would like to work with. Spend a nice, sunny afternoon stuck inside getting rid of ugly, cheap tatoos on otherwise attractive men and women and you might see where I am coming from. Apr 25 06 11:44 am Link ........oops........ i want a small star on my foot!!!!  lolApr 25 06 11:48 am Link William Bell wrote: If you don't deal with people who have ugly, cheap tattoos then you won't have to spend any time shopping the ink out. I only work with people who have great ink in the first place -- I find that the care and dedication they put into their ink almost always translates into their skills as subjects. A more pragmatic model selection process will solve your problem in short order. Apr 25 06 11:49 am Link William Bell wrote: I'm hoping never. I love 'em. Apr 25 06 11:51 am Link SayCheeZ! wrote: GM lost billions over the last couple of years. Might want to choose a better analogy. Apr 25 06 11:56 am Link RoninGarou wrote: Sounds good to me. Apr 25 06 11:57 am Link I have two tattoos that I love, they arent inappropriate or anything like that and they can be covered up easily, which I usually do anyways before every shoot, so whats the prob Bob? LOL! Just kidding I know that it can be rather annoying but just hope you have a model as diligent as me in keeping the photographer from doing an enormous amount of work unnecessarily! Apr 25 06 01:16 pm Link So artphotodude said.... "I think you will find a lot of girl-next-door types, rather than commercial models, who don't have tattoos, and also, if you have access to models in Canada, there are a lot of very classical types up there." The other day I was told I had the girl-next-door look and I have a tattoo. I don't think its too bad. It's a dolphin on my right hip/lower stomach area. I got it when I was 14. But back to the main question...I hope that they don't go away, they are a beautiful work of art. I also plan on getting more. Apr 25 06 01:24 pm Link MMDesign wrote: I second that!!! Apr 25 06 01:25 pm Link Kiersten Weaver wrote: and also, if you have access to models in Canada, there are a lot of very classical types up there. haha and they all got inked! you would be suprised! Apr 25 06 01:32 pm Link Tabitha Bartley wrote: Or simply hire someone else, which is my solution. Apr 25 06 02:04 pm Link modeling is the exact reason i won't get a tattoo. i want to leave my body "open" for any kind of shoot. plus, they can always be painted on for a specific shoot. Apr 25 06 02:09 pm Link Lens N Light wrote: Of course. You are never obligated to work with anyone and if a photographer doesn't like models having tattoos he/she should find models who don't have them. Kinda simple. Apr 25 06 02:10 pm Link I'm into tatoos, definetely not into piercing (I think so) but I don't like a body that is full of such things. There should be a precise limit that should not be overrun ! I mean I find it sort of ugly when someone has tatoos all over and his 'real' skin is indiscernible ! And I'm not saying this because of my personal ... experience I have also considered having some more tattoos done on various places but I recently decided that one is enough for me Apr 25 06 02:12 pm Link *shrug* i have 4 tattoos myself, with more on the way. I have to agree with Melvin on this one (big surprise, it seems i do that a lot). the problem isn't tattoos in general. the problem is bad tattoos. now, who am i to say what is and is not a bad tattoo on someone else? i can only say what i do and do not like. i don't like seeing tattoos that look like they were selected at random from some wall flash with no thought or meaning. i like tattoos that seem organic and personal, that don't look like they were just slapped on and don't fit in with the personality of the person. but that's just me. Apr 25 06 02:17 pm Link I have always wanted a bunch of tattoos but, BECAUSE I wanted to be a model, I never got one. At a show I did, I heard one of the hairstylists say "Jesus, everyone has a tattoo!" He sounded a little annoyed at this fact. W/ the clothing we were wearing they were VERY visible. I was a little proud to be one of the few who did not have a tattoo. (not to slight anyone who does, i secretly want them!) From what I see, the trend will not end any time soon. Apr 25 06 02:20 pm Link Kiersten Weaver wrote: I really don' like to photograph a girl with a lot of tattoos. That said I recently photographed a girl with 10 tattoos. But she happened to be a great model!!!! Apr 25 06 02:23 pm Link William Bell wrote: No tattoos here. :p May 01 06 04:37 pm Link William Bell wrote: In many ways you make sense. The tattoo artist who inked my tribal band definitly said he got many girls who took pre-drawn designs from the book or simply had no idea what they wanted and just chose something out of impulse. He was surprised to see me with a paper of the design that I had created. May 01 06 04:41 pm Link You can only do what you can do -- people will ink themselves with or without your permission. Me? I've decided that I won't photograph tattoos. If a model has ink on the parts I want to photograph, I won't work with her. Simple as that. They may suggest that I do the Photoshop thing, but... a) I still work with film & paper for my most serious photographs, b) I am not good at removing tattoos with Paint Shop Pro, and c) I don't like to modify my images that much. But that's just me. I have my standards, and there are, no doubt, tons of wonderful models who will not be asked to pose for me. They probably don't even know that their tattoos are losing them work, or if they know, they don't care, and that's fine with both of us. That's how strongly I feel about tattoos. May 01 06 05:03 pm Link I am not even going to say a word ...I am just going to got a bag of pop corn and watch..lol Damm I have to say something.. Ok..here go's.. If it came down to 2 models with the same looks and one had a tat on her body I would have to go with the one that did not have a tat.. Little tats don't bother me but big tats don't do it for me.. But we all have our idea of what beauty is..what ever floats your boat.. Mike May 01 06 05:16 pm Link RoninGarou wrote: so damn...i'm already at the end of that list..... May 01 06 05:35 pm Link William Bell wrote: What the hell do you care? If you don't like ink, don't shoot models with ink. May 01 06 05:36 pm Link William Bell wrote: I hear ya brother! I'm sooooo sick of Tats! They just look like skin cancer to me. But many women I've talked to say they get "off" when they get one, so don't expect it to end any time soon. May 01 06 05:46 pm Link Hummmm well, I don`t think this is a FAD it`s a lifestyle now and it`s HERE to stay.........I`ve seen the Retro scene go from NO TATTOOS to almost EVERY single model has them now (at least in the INTERNET scene) It`s something that`s NOT going to really change I think, I myself like the work I`ve shot with tattooed girls, but it would have even MORE appeal and overall better marketing chances if they were non-tattooed I think, the direction`s going that way in the worldwide market, but models still keep getting them.......... I think it`s ok when the tattoo`s are OLD SCHOOL or TASTEFUL or can be COVERED UP I have to shop out one`s that I don`t like or that just don`t jive with the photo that becomes a pain in the ass and with my work, it depends on each and every girl who`s shooting, if the tattoo`s are nice then it`s a go, if their not and the girls still worth working with and the tattoos CAN be covered that`s ok too, if not then simply I won`t work with her, unless she`s paying me for work, then that`s acceptable (tattoo`s DO effect the outcome of a models career, models without them go further in the business......period) I have a few model friend`s who are now heavily tattooed and they REGRET doing it while they cannot get any serious work and just porn offers (the skin industry doesn`t care what you look like as long as you perform the actions) I have seen many models with extreme potential not be able to do anything while their tattoo`s are holding them back from the good jobs Just like Angelina Jolie, she`s amazing, but some of her tattoo work on her body is just crap......THANK GOD there`s professional tattoo makeup that takes care of it when it`s important and photoshop.....I guess when it all come down to it, it really depends on how MUCH you want to work with the model and being able to just cover up them if you don`t want to see them, it`s just like piercing`s it`s something the whole industry works WITH ...or AROUND When I FIND out that one of my untattooed or less tattooed models is getting another one or more....... that`s when the artistic nude work goes into overdrive, while I know from experience that in 4/5 years these photos will be one`s the models most remembered for May 01 06 05:49 pm Link Well, I'm sort of torn. I've always felt that tattoos on a beautiful woman were like grafitti on a flower. But it can be interesting if it somehow suits the model's personality and the mood or aim of the shot. Most of the time, though, they are candidates for retouching. And I wonder what these tattoos will look like when the ladies get older. May 01 06 05:53 pm Link I recently shot a wedding where one of the brides maids had tatoos all over her arms and back and it just didn't go with the pretty dress they all were wearing. Looked very "trashy" in my opinion and from what I heard from other guests, I wasn't alone. May 01 06 05:53 pm Link Melvin Moten Jr wrote: Tattoes are beautiful and expressive. They make you unique. Why the hell would I want to look like every other girl out there? My tattoes and piercings are what make me my own person. May 01 06 06:09 pm Link I have a very small tattoo of 3 shooting stars on my pelvis area. It is very easy to cover. I have it because I love everything about stars, they are one of natures beauties. My suggestion to the photogs that don't like tattoos is to see if the models have them and if they can be covered up easily. If you still don't like it then just don't shoot with models that have them. Sometimes there is a story behind a tattoo. Don't diss them without knowing their story. May 01 06 06:13 pm Link William Bell wrote: Awe, May 01 06 06:13 pm Link Cherish Kortesmaki wrote: Your soul, mind, and personality make you your own unique person, not some pieces of metal poking through your flesh and some one else's drawings on your skin. Reading your post.... is just sad. Is that really what you think you have to do to be unique? May 01 06 06:22 pm Link RoninGarou wrote: can't wait!! ;] May 01 06 06:26 pm Link A tattooless female body is a beautiful thing. A vanishing species. It's my goal to photograph as many of them as possible before they go extinct. May 01 06 06:31 pm Link |
I love my tat's (piglet, thumper and a band of daisies). Yes, sometimes I wish they could disappear for a shoot, but overall, I love and don't regret them. I understand where you are coming from though. Have a wonderful night~ 
