John Jebbia wrote:
My friends Mike (#3204) and Leo (#4278) will be along shortly with their story from last weekend. It's a classic!

thanks for the intro hahaha

RFAphoto wrote:
yeah I had a model flake on me last week, 9 hours after the shoot was scheduled I get an message on MM that her sister was hit in the head with a golf club and almost died... I of course sent her my condolences and said we could re-schedule at a later date. She had also planned a shoot with an associate of mine for the next day and sure enough she flaked out on him with the same excuse! well at that point we HAD to ask, did she have two unlucky sisters or one REALLY unlucky sister? well it was determined she had but one "sister so i sent this heartfelt letter

,
I just wanted to pass along well wishes, several of us AZ photographers would like you to know we are sorry to hear your sister got hit in the head with a golf club TWICE in two consecutive days. We would like to wish her a speedy recovery. We are no longer interested in wasting out time setting up for a shoot in which you will likely not arrive to, but we were wondering if your sister is available. I have heard rumor that SI is working on a bloopers issue and this would likely be a good byline article at the very least.

Sincerely,
Mike and associates

hahahahahaha AMAZING

Leo Howard wrote:
Yes, in fact it happened just last week. . .

She was scheduled to shoot with another photographer that I know on Sunday, no show no call, later that evening he got an email stating that her sister got hit in the head with a golf club, they had to rush her to the hospital, she almost died,  had to get a couple stitches. . .

She was scheduled to shoot with me on Monday, the very next day. . . I emailed her Sunday night to confirm our shoot, Here is what I said" Just confirming our shoot for tomorrow, monday 2/20/06 at 10am Cheers  Leo " no reply, nothing, but she did read the message, so as you probably guessed, shoot time came and went, and no show, no call, so I emailed her " ******,What happened, its 10:30 and we were scheduled for 10:00am today", she finally replied saying "My sister got hit in the head with a golf club...we had to go to the hospitol. I'm so sorry!!!! " being the curious one, I asked " This happened this morning? ( Monday )", to which she replied "ea, She stayed the night at my aunts. They were playing on the golf course outside and my cousin hit her....on accident of course." And I said "Im confused, your sister got hit in the head twice with a golf club?" On Tuesday she replied" no, once. yesterday morning."   Well then Im really confused, On Sunday you told xxxx xxxxxx ( MM# **** ) that the reason you missed your shoot with him was because your sister got hit in the head with a golf club, but now you're telling me the reason you missed you're shoot with me is because she got hit in the head yesterday,( Monday ) with a golf club, so which was it, Sunday or Monday? One thing you need to understand, Photographers talk to each other on a regular basis.
QUIT WASTING PEOPLES TIME WITH THESE CHILDISH GAMES !"

Sometimes people just dont think before they tell a lie. . .

Oh well, move on and keep on keepin on

RFAphoto wrote:
yeah I had a model flake on me last week, 9 hours after the shoot was scheduled I get an message on MM that her sister was hit in the head with a golf club and almost died... I of course sent her my condolences and said we could re-schedule at a later date. She had also planned a shoot with an associate of mine for the next day and sure enough she flaked out on him with the same excuse! well at that point we HAD to ask, did she have two unlucky sisters or one REALLY unlucky sister? well it was determined she had but one "sister so i sent this heartfelt letter

,
I just wanted to pass along well wishes, several of us AZ photographers would like you to know we are sorry to hear your sister got hit in the head with a golf club TWICE in two consecutive days. We would like to wish her a speedy recovery. We are no longer interested in wasting out time setting up for a shoot in which you will likely not arrive to, but we were wondering if your sister is available. I have heard rumor that SI is working on a bloopers issue and this would likely be a good byline article at the very least.

Sincerely,
Mike and associates

Sounds like someone's sister is getting clubbed like a baby seal.

John Jebbia wrote:

Leo Howard wrote:
Yes, in fact it happened just last week. . .

She was scheduled to shoot with another photographer that I know on Sunday, no show no call, later that evening he got an email stating that her sister got hit in the head with a golf club, they had to rush her to the hospital, she almost died,  had to get a couple stitches. . .

She was scheduled to shoot with me on Monday, the very next day. . . I emailed her Sunday night to confirm our shoot, Here is what I said" Just confirming our shoot for tomorrow, monday 2/20/06 at 10am Cheers  Leo " no reply, nothing, but she did read the message, so as you probably guessed, shoot time came and went, and no show, no call, so I emailed her " ******,What happened, its 10:30 and we were scheduled for 10:00am today", she finally replied saying "My sister got hit in the head with a golf club...we had to go to the hospitol. I'm so sorry!!!! " being the curious one, I asked " This happened this morning? ( Monday )", to which she replied "ea, She stayed the night at my aunts. They were playing on the golf course outside and my cousin hit her....on accident of course." And I said "Im confused, your sister got hit in the head twice with a golf club?" On Tuesday she replied" no, once. yesterday morning."   Well then Im really confused, On Sunday you told xxxx xxxxxx ( MM# **** ) that the reason you missed your shoot with him was because your sister got hit in the head with a golf club, but now you're telling me the reason you missed you're shoot with me is because she got hit in the head yesterday,( Monday ) with a golf club, so which was it, Sunday or Monday? One thing you need to understand, Photographers talk to each other on a regular basis.
QUIT WASTING PEOPLES TIME WITH THESE CHILDISH GAMES !"

Sometimes people just dont think before they tell a lie. . .

Oh well, move on and keep on keepin on

Sounds like someone's sister is getting clubbed like a baby seal.

Warning:Stay away from the golf course! You know what they say, three strikes and you're out LOL hahaha

MusePhotographer wrote:
lol ok, well here's what I got in the mail since you all opened up to me here heeheee:

"I wanted to apologize for today.  I was most definately (sic) planning on making
it to our appointment.  However, I got in a car accident earlier this
morning on the way there and pretty much totaled my car and everything in it
including my cell phone."

Now, you tell me if that is believable?

God forbid she use a payphone. Lemme guess... all her change flew out the window and she couldn't find a quarter. Or;

Fucking women drivers!

MusePhotographer wrote:
lol ok, well here's what I got in the mail since you all opened up to me here heeheee:

"I wanted to apologize for today.  I was most definately (sic) planning on making
it to our appointment.  However, I got in a car accident earlier this
morning on the way there and pretty much totaled my car and everything in it
including my cell phone."

Now, you tell me if that is believable?

That's the same one I got from a model this past Fall (except she didn't have her phone with her and so couldn't call). I wonder if these models trade "no show" stories. I always give them the benefit of the doubt, at least once anyway.

  Once upon a time I had a no-show model. We had set the shoot up, and she was driving in from Fargo/Moorhead; she was actually on a modeling tour of sorts to work with several photographers. Well, the day came and I got everything ready and waited for her to arrive. She didn't arrive, and I received no phone call or anything. So, I got really annoyed and write her a rather nasty email calling her on her lack of professionalism and anything else I could think of. A couple weeks later I got a letter in the mail, snailmail, from the model. She had been in a car accident just south of Saint Cloud; she had been run off the road by a pickup truck who didn't bother stopping. She spent (I think) a week in the hospital, and the letter was one of apology to all the photographers she had scheduled to work with. So, I felt like total crap. I also realized that a photo shoot really isn't all that important; I'd much rather have a model flake than have her involved in a real accident or worse. So, after that, I decided I wouldn't freak out anymore and just let things happen as they will. BTW -- I photographed her later that year.

  Of course, I know people pull the no-show thing all the time, and it's entirely bogus. If you're not interested in modeling then quit pretending. These people neglect to realize that modeling involves other people; true no-shows are very selfish and by lieing about it they prove their integrity. It's just best to move on to someone else.

  -P-

John Jebbia wrote:

God forbid she use a payphone.

LOL, but she said "everything in it" ... (dot, dot, dot) thank gawd she was unscathed by it all. I mean, come on, next time fasten the seatbelt on your cell phones LOL.  think about it for a minute... 

William Coleman wrote:
What I hate most are excuses that elicit my sympathy but sound unlikely.  A model no-showed, then later said it was a family emergency because her brother had killed a guy in a bar and gotten arrested for murder.  How on earth to react to THAT?

I would give her my sympathies and then wait for her to contact me when she's "available." Generally, you won't hear back from them. So, put the ball in her court and move on.

  -P-

Pat Thielen wrote:

I would give her my sympathies and then wait for her to contact me when she's "available." Generally, you won't hear back from them. So, put the ball in her court and move on.

  -P-

Yeah, I moved on.  Too bad, b/c I had shot with her before and I otherwise had a good rapport with her.

William Coleman wrote:
What I hate most are excuses that elicit my sympathy but sound unlikely.  A model no-showed, then later said it was a family emergency because her brother had killed a guy in a bar and gotten arrested for murder.  How on earth to react to THAT?

That I could believe. We used to have this unassuming quiet guy working in our office who moved to California for a better job opportunity. Apparently he got into a fight and ended up allegedly murdering someone. He fled California and came back here.  NOt long after another guy from the office who now works as a cop saw him incarcerated in a local jail one day waiting to be sent back to CA to face the murder charge.  The truth is stranger than fiction? lol

Nerlande wrote:

hahahahahaha AMAZING

Damn,

even I had to bust a gut when I read that.

markcomp wrote:
Yes to all of the above.

Yup same here..but only on TFP/CD shoots

MusePhotographer wrote:
I am not sure if I should believe this most recent one or not. I've had a string of noshows as of late that I am beginning to wonder

Has anyone ever had a model (or photographer) not show up for a TFCD shoot and later on receive an email explaining the reason for the noshow..and only later on you find out that the model (or photographer, whatever the case may be) "lied" about the reason for the apparent noshow?

Anyway, I guess I am just feeling a bit upset and frustrated and am just venting here lol.

Have a nice day, everyone:)

No,

I've been fortunate. Fortunate to have all of my models show up. And fortunate enough to see that I'm going have a potential bull shitter. I had one on here that has found me and wants to work with me, but everytime it's time to hook up, either I get something has come up or catting around the meeting thing. I don't have time for that type of shit.

I'd like to meet my models so that they know who I am and we get a general idea on what I am looking for. This makes things easier when I am looking for a certain style of clothing (seeing the clothes in advance) or a certain style period. F the dumb stuff.

Pat Thielen wrote:
That's the same one I got from a model this past Fall (except she didn't have her phone with her and so couldn't call). I wonder if these models trade "no show" stories. I always give them the benefit of the doubt, at least once anyway.

  Once upon a time I had a no-show model. We had set the shoot up, and she was driving in from Fargo/Moorhead; she was actually on a modeling tour of sorts to work with several photographers. Well, the day came and I got everything ready and waited for her to arrive. She didn't arrive, and I received no phone call or anything. So, I got really annoyed and write her a rather nasty email calling her on her lack of professionalism and anything else I could think of. A couple weeks later I got a letter in the mail, snailmail, from the model. She had been in a car accident just south of Saint Cloud; she had been run off the road by a pickup truck who didn't bother stopping. She spent (I think) a week in the hospital, and the letter was one of apology to all the photographers she had scheduled to work with. So, I felt like total crap. I also realized that a photo shoot really isn't all that important; I'd much rather have a model flake than have her involved in a real accident or worse. So, after that, I decided I wouldn't freak out anymore and just let things happen as they will. BTW -- I photographed her later that year.

  Of course, I know people pull the no-show thing all the time, and it's entirely bogus. If you're not interested in modeling then quit pretending. These people neglect to realize that modeling involves other people; true no-shows are very selfish and by lieing about it they prove their integrity. It's just best to move on to someone else.

  -P-

Here's the real annoyance with no-shows.. Some people have regular day jobs 9-5 and only have 2 days a week to schedule shoots for. When week after week, they keep canceling and no showing it really becomes a major frustration since now you have to wait a whole 'nother week to shoot.. and no telling if that one is gonna show.

I have an idea for an old motel room shoot. Problem is, I have to reserve and pay for the room in advance. This is a project that I am real skeptical about doing due to my no-show rate lately.

Recently, I had one girl who answered one of my ads for a paid shoot.. the day of the shoot, she no-shows/no calls.. but about 20 minutes after the scheduled shoot I get a text message saying, "Sorry, but I am scared."

Well, WTF..

Then she joins MM a couple weeks later and sends me a message out of the blue saying she wants to do a TFP. I agree and get everything set up.. Day of shoot, again she no shows/no calls..

2 days later I get this e-mail:

"I am very sorry to know that you did all that work for me. I also figured it was TFP shoot. So that was another problem all the running around and prep I have to do for TFP. There is no immediate benefit, just concurred expenses, ya know. But maybe next time."

DOUBLE WTF!!! A couple weeks ago you HAD a shoot scheduled that had immediate benefit!!!!!!! Things that make you scratch your head!!!

MusePhotographer wrote:
but seriously, I am moving on. I want to shoot with Bekuh now:)
Thanks Pat and everyone for helping me ease the pain of a noshow yet again grrr lol

Grrr is right! Best of luck to you! Did I say I advocate extreme violence in these situations...? I didn't? Good.

 

MusePhotographer wrote:
I am not sure if I should believe this most recent one or not. I've had a string of noshows as of late that I am beginning to wonder

Has anyone ever had a model (or photographer) not show up for a TFCD shoot and later on receive an email explaining the reason for the noshow..and only later on you find out that the model (or photographer, whatever the case may be) "lied" about the reason for the apparent noshow?

Anyway, I guess I am just feeling a bit upset and frustrated and am just venting here lol.

Have a nice day, everyone:)

Had my first no show/no call today...unfortunately it won't be the last

RFAphoto wrote:
In light of my recent cereal box "model" (Read as FLAKE) I will institute a new policy, I will no longer book a tfp until I have a verifyable phone number in which to contact said model. I give out my business number on all initial contacts and attempting to conduct business with somone who's only point of contact is an internet forum they may or may not check or have access to at any given time is simply not smart business, how many employers would settle for your e-mail address as a way to contact you instead of a phone number?

But I did get her phone number. In fact she gave it to me.  It took my messages yesterday reconfirming our shoot and reminding her to  please call me if something would come up. Some individuals are really just plain inconsiderate. I'm just not used to that lol. I guess I just need to toughen up. ok.moving on really

John Jebbia wrote:

Here's the real annoyance with no-shows.. Some people have regular day jobs 9-5 and only have 2 days a week to schedule shoots for. When week after week, they keep canceling and no showing it really becomes a major frustration since now you have to wait a whole 'nother week to shoot.. and no telling if that one is gonna show.

I have an idea for an old motel room shoot. Problem is, I have to reserve and pay for the room in advance. This is a project that I am real skeptical about doing due to my no-show rate lately.

Recently, I had one girl who answered one of my ads for a paid shoot.. the day of the shoot, she no-shows/no calls.. but about 20 minutes after the scheduled shoot I get a text message saying, "Sorry, but I am scared."

Well, WTF..

Then she joins MM a couple weeks later and sends me a message out of the blue saying she wants to do a TFP. I agree and get everything set up.. Day of shoot, again she no shows/no calls..

2 days later I get this e-mail:

"I am very sorry to know that you did all that work for me. I also figured it was TFP shoot. So that was another problem all the running around and prep I have to do for TFP. There is no immediate benefit, just concurred expenses, ya know. But maybe next time."

DOUBLE WTF!!! A couple weeks ago you HAD a shoot scheduled that had immediate benefit!!!!!!! Things that make you scratch your head!!!

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