Model
Addie Juniper
Posts: 147
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Model Sarah wrote:
First off just for future reference everyone knows I am 90% sarcastic. 
Second, from the earlier thread(s) she started I doubt anyone will take her seriously from this site at least.
*It isnt because of nudity. Excuse me? What's that supp0ssed t0 mean? After that f0rum my inb0x has been fl00ded with pe0ple wanting me t0 d0 paid sh00ts AND bring my esc0rt. Y0u sh0uld try it s0metime, h0n.
Model
Envy
Posts: 11189
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Addie Juniper wrote:
Thanks f0r taking the time t0 answer my p0st. H0w am I t00 0ld f0r anything? I'm 21! That's funny. And which ph0t0grapher are y0u referring t0? https://modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=26505
This photographer. You are aware of what TFP/TFCD means correct?
Photographer
Nihilus
Posts: 10888
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Model
Addie Juniper
Posts: 147
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Kitapanda wrote:
I think that's a bit harsh... well... ok maybe not but I'm pretty sure that the OP isn't Addie (the model in question) but her boyfriend/escort. Take a look at the other post. The model seems to know how to put together a decent sentence while the boyfriend seems plagued with l337 syndrome. N0, dumbass, this is the m0del, Addie. The 0 key really d0esn't w0rk n0w. Y0u pe0ple are s0 stupid.
Photographer
Steven Bigler
Posts: 1007
Schenectady, New York, US
I think the best advice is to only post your BEST nudes... rather than MANY. Unless you have many that are GREAT.
Model
Envy
Posts: 11189
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Addie Juniper wrote:
N0, dumbass, this is the m0del, Addie. The 0 key really d0esn't w0rk n0w. Y0u pe0ple are s0 stupid. You are quite the genius. First you ask an amazing photographer I'd give a kidney to shoot with to pay you in a clearly stated TFP posting. Then you have the audacity to name call again after Theda already warned you the first time.
I hope you get the boot.
Photographer
Webspinner Studios
Posts: 6964
Ann Arbor, Michigan, US
Envy wrote:
You are quite the genius. First you ask an amazing photographer I'd give a kidney to shoot with to pay you in a clearly stated TFP posting. Then you have the audacity to name call again after Theda already warned you the first time.
I hope you get the boot. Hmmm....so theda already warned her? I'll put her in time out. Addie, you are getting a week off. Enjoy, and fix your keyboard.
Photographer
GunnCat
Posts: 71
Addie this is the kind of topic that I usually stay away from because of the nature of my commercial work which is adult.
The statement the person made to you if a bit ambiguous. There's so many ways to interpret different meanings into it, I have no wonder why you are left asking this question.
Someone recently commented in my tagboard how I could call myself a photographer based on the material I shoot, and it made me wonder about the meaning of the word. I have been taking pictures for many years mostly of nature and people. The last 4 years I have been producing content for websites.
Now what I do commercially would make me consider myself a photographer. I do what I do well and create content that sells. I make good money doing it also. So am I a photographer?
This brings me back to your question. Will people take you seriously. It depends. What are your goals in this business? I looked at your images and could estimate that you could have a website with the kind of content in your portfolio and make a great deal of money doing so.
Tiffany Teen-the website (which my partner and I estimate) grosses about $150k a month in sales. She shows less than you do in your profile. If you look at that as a business model, you can rest assured it's very serious.
So I just wanted to throw my opinion in there because my view is one that is somewhat different from the general audience here.
Most importantly though, do what you feel good about and don't let anyone make you feel bad about what you choose to do. Just think hard about what it is you want because pictures are forever.
Photographer
Ceehawk Multimedia
Posts: 319
Clarksville, Tennessee, US
Lapis wrote:
I'll do TFP work with creative photographers who I feel will enhance my portfolio.
Okay, this part of your portfolio is pretty normal...nothing to not be taken seriously there....
I always charge for nudes (it's reasonable), especially figure nudes because they aren't really the style that I'm looking for.
Okay, this is kinda sketchy...you will charge for nudes always...okay for a more experienced model, but if you really want to be a 'respected' nude model, you will try to get some nude work by great photographers in your book.
Your book is decent, but not so phenomenal that you will get regularly paid...unless you want to do porn or fetish.
However, you say you will particularly charge for figure nudes because they aren't your style...a) nobody wants to pay someone to do something they really don't want to do b) What is your 'style'? What are you looking for out of this whole modeling venture.
Lets be honest...you are too old and too short for fashion modeling. You are willing to do nudes, and that is probably going to be the area where you will get the most money.
However, if you are worried about being 'respectable', non erotic figure work is the most 'respectable' form of nude photography, if you are going from a traditional standpoint.
It also makes the least money.
Also, if you already have a port filled with nudes, why are you listening to someone who is telling you you won't be respected for having nudes. What she is saying is that she doesn't find it respectable. Is she an expert in the modeling field? Is she someone you aspire to follow in her footsteps? if not, ignore her.
Modeling for me is a marginally profitable hobby. IF you are lucky, it will be the same for you as well. You are not going to be a playmate, you are not going to be a VS model...so, YOU have to define what you want to be.
However, I suggest that you spend more time looking at and researching photography, so you can get an idea of what quality photography is. You already slammed a door shut on one of the pre-eminent erotic photographers in the country by asking for money when he specified in his casting that he was looking for TFP..if you had researched, you would have learned that his prints are worth thousands of dollars. So, because you wanted 80$/hr, you lost out on many long term benefits. What do YOU want out of this business. You are new in this biz, and you really don't seem to know what YOU want. Figure that out, and you could go somewhere. I was going to put my 2 cents in but Lapis said it all and sooo well.
Model
Model Sarah
Posts: 40994
Columbus, Ohio, US
Addie Juniper wrote:
Excuse me? What's that supp0ssed t0 mean? After that f0rum my inb0x has been fl00ded with pe0ple wanting me t0 d0 paid sh00ts AND bring my esc0rt. Y0u sh0uld try it s0metime, h0n. C0ngrats.
H0pefully y0u w0nt l00k s0 medi0cre n0w.
Photographer
Pat Thielen
Posts: 16800
Hastings, Minnesota, US
Krista wrote:
Hmmm....so theda already warned her? I'll put in her in time out. Addie, you are getting a week off. Enjoy, and fix your keyboard. Some people just can't play well with others. Personally, I would have banned her after the email she sent me. But that's just me.
-P-
Model
Model Sarah
Posts: 40994
Columbus, Ohio, US
Envy wrote:
You are quite the genius. First you ask an amazing photographer I'd give a kidney to shoot with to pay you in a clearly stated TFP posting. Then you have the audacity to name call again after Theda already warned you the first time.
I hope you get the boot. Did I mention I love you?
Model
Kita St Cyr
Posts: 13934
New York, New York, US
Pat Thielen wrote:
Some people just can't play well with others. Personally, I would have banned her after the email she sent me. But that's just me.
-P- Wonder what it said...
Model
Envy
Posts: 11189
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Model Sarah wrote:
Did I mention I love you?
Did I mention you are divine?
Photographer
Nihilus
Posts: 10888
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Model Sarah wrote:
Did I mention I love you? Envy wrote:
Did I mention you are divine? Did I mention I'm getting hot and bothered here?
Photographer
Pat Thielen
Posts: 16800
Hastings, Minnesota, US
Kitapanda wrote:
Wonder what it said... I'm not going to post it here or anything as it's done and over with (I did copy it over to the mods, though). I actually think they've been rather leniant with this person for some reason, but that's just me (and of course I have no idea what warnings and stuff they've been giving her). She tends to be very disrespectfull and insulting, and doesn't seem to see this as a problem. And people are actually trying to give her good advice and input.
And yeah... I think Envy rocks too! As do many people here.
-P-
Model
Envy
Posts: 11189
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Kitapanda wrote:
Wonder what it said... Probably something along the lines of :
I'm G0InG 70 fInD u @nD 5H0V3 @ pIlL0W 0V3R Y0Ur F@Cw HiL3 u 5l33P.
I'm A mOdEl @nD mY n@m3 Iz @DdI3
Photographer
lll
Posts: 12295
Seattle, Washington, US
Pat Thielen wrote:
Some people just can't play well with others. Personally, I would have banned her after the email she sent me. But that's just me. She sent me one, too! LOL I am not going to write what's in there, but I laughed my butt off.
Model
Model Sarah
Posts: 40994
Columbus, Ohio, US
lll wrote:
She sent me one, too! LOL I am not going to write what's in there, but I laughed my butt off. This would be a great thread in itself
Photographer
Webspinner Studios
Posts: 6964
Ann Arbor, Michigan, US
So, uh, you guys think she should be put in perma ban huh? I didn't know about the e-mails....I am going to add that to 'the list'
Model
Envy
Posts: 11189
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Krista wrote:
So, uh, you guys think she should be put in perma ban huh? I didn't know about the e-mails....I am going to add that to 'the list' Perma ban sounds fun.
I like permanent vacations.
Photographer
Nihilus
Posts: 10888
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Pat Thielen wrote:
Personally, I would have banned her after the email she sent me. But that's just me. Geez...I can be quite the harsh one on the boards sometimes, but am I the only one that got an actually respectful yet curious message from her?
(Man...this softee image could kill my rep...)
Photographer
Nihilus
Posts: 10888
Nashville, Tennessee, US
lll wrote:
She sent me one, too! LOL I am not going to write what's in there, but I laughed my butt off. Damn. Well, now I'm really curious.
I feel kind of cheated. I got no expletives in my private message... 
Model
Envy
Posts: 11189
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Nihilus wrote:
Geez...I can be quite the harsh one on the boards sometimes, but am I the only one that got an actually respectful yet curious message from her?
(Man...this softee image could kill my rep...)
I didn't get a sweet letter from her either. I feel left out.
Model
Sheri B
Posts: 427
Allentown, Pennsylvania, US
I haven't read this whole forum. But after the image I just saw I thought the topic fit. I think nudity is one thing. But I really don't want to see up between someones legs. I just saw an image with a woman's legs open. Of course she was naked. Am I the only one who thinks that is a bit to much?
Photographer
Nihilus
Posts: 10888
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Envy wrote:
I didn't get a sweet letter from her either. I feel left out. No, no! I GOT one from her. It just seems I'm the only one who got one not drenched in seething anger. *shrug*
Model
Envy
Posts: 11189
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Nihilus wrote:
No, no! I GOT one from her. It just seems I'm the only one who got one not drenched in seething anger. *shrug* I got nothing! I feel so damn cheated.
Photographer
Pat Thielen
Posts: 16800
Hastings, Minnesota, US
Nihilus wrote:
Geez...I can be quite the harsh one on the boards sometimes, but am I the only one that got an actually respectful yet curious message from her?
(Man...this softee image could kill my rep...)
Yeah, you're quite the softy! Now no-one will work with you ever again!
Hmmm... maybe that's my problem. Maybe I need to be more of a hardass or something...
Photographer
Nihilus
Posts: 10888
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Pat Thielen wrote:
Maybe I need to be more of a hardass or something... I fail to see how wishing to rent Buns of Steel for your private use has anything to do with this thread....
Model
Sheri B
Posts: 427
Allentown, Pennsylvania, US
Sheri B wrote:
I haven't read this whole forum. But after the image I just saw I thought the topic fit. I think nudity is one thing. But I really don't want to see up between someones legs. I just saw an image with a woman's legs open. Of course she was naked. Am I the only one who thinks that is a bit to much? With that being the focal point of the image.
Photographer
Pat Thielen
Posts: 16800
Hastings, Minnesota, US
Envy wrote:
I didn't get a sweet letter from her either. I feel left out. I'm sure someone here would be happy to send you a nice sweet letter. But I don't think they'd be quite as funny as the one she sent me. Oh well. Some of us are special I guess.
Photographer
Nihilus
Posts: 10888
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Envy wrote:
I got nothing! I feel so damn cheated. That's not right! Hmm lemme see *digs through closet* ...here you go!
![https://img.factmonster.com/images/penguin.jpg]()
Photographer
Pat Thielen
Posts: 16800
Hastings, Minnesota, US
Nihilus wrote:
I fail to see how wishing to rent Buns of Steel for your private use has anything to do with this thread.... Yeah, but if I *had* buns of steal the world could be mine!
Muahahahaaaa!
Photographer
Nihilus
Posts: 10888
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Pat Thielen wrote:
Yeah, but if I *had* buns of steal the world could be mine!
Muahahahaaaa! How?!? What...would you use them as vice-grips or something??
Model
Model Sarah
Posts: 40994
Columbus, Ohio, US
Pat Thielen wrote:
I'm sure someone here would be happy to send you a nice sweet letter. But I don't think they'd be quite as funny as the one she sent me. Oh well. Some of us are special I guess. Stop teasing us!!!!
Model
Lapis
Posts: 8424
Chicago, Illinois, US
Photographer
Nihilus
Posts: 10888
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Lapis wrote:
are we having fun yet? *checks watch* You're late, Lapis.
Photographer
Pat Thielen
Posts: 16800
Hastings, Minnesota, US
Sheri B wrote:
With that being the focal point of the image. I can certainly see where you're coming from with this, and I'd be inclined to agree. I really don't photograph people that way (although I have when a model or client requested it -- yeah, it does happen).
However, it depends on the photograph. Once in awhile I see a "closeup" shot that's actually very well done, and in an artistic way. I doubt it's something I could pull off, but it can work. It seems a bit odd to me that photographs are judged so much on what body part is showing. It's really a matter of personal preferance, and also what we expect to see as art as opposed to what we expect to see as porn. Does this make any sense? I have no idea... I'm slowly going mad...
-P-
Photographer
Shawn Kuck
Posts: 407
Columbia, Tennessee, US
safiraangel wrote:
Ok help a lost person out. What thread did she start that I obviously missed. Don't forget the thread after the original two, that was made to scold us for our poor behavior in the previous thread. I celieve it was "I can't believe you people" or something like that, haha
Shawn
Photographer
Van T Tran
Posts: 28
Pinellas Park, Florida, US
Hmmm...I am not able to access Addie's profile and view her nude pics. :-)
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