Photographer
TSPhoto
Posts: 864
Holiday, Florida, US
I remember when I was in front of the camera...a long, long time ago, when models revered the photographers and felt lucky to be shot by them. As models, we didn't act so self-important and as if we were doing the photographers a favor - we actually wanted the photographers to grace us with their presence instead of acting as if we were gracing them with ours.
What happened to this, I don't know. I believe it is a generational thing. To quote
'The Incredibles' - "When everyone is special, no one is special anymore."
I also remember how much easier modeling was than photography.
This sort of thing has happened to me too - complainers, self-important wanna-be Paris Hiltons, everyone thinking they are already a star when they haven't even hit the small time. Last minute cancellations on TFCD with no apology, photographer shopping, even friends at the beginning asking to see my work before I shot them, although they knew I was new and didn't have anything, which was the point of my asking them in the first place.
I long for the old days. Everything is flipflopped now.
Model
Cassi Fox
Posts: 12
New York, New York, US
Model
Meagan Andrea
Posts: 214
North Augusta, South Carolina, US
Tracy Scott Photography wrote:
I remember when I was in front of the camera...a long, long time ago, when models revered the photographers and felt lucky to be shot by them. As models, we didn't act so self-important and as if we were doing the photographers a favor - we actually wanted the photographers to grace us with their presence instead of acting as if we were gracing them with ours.
What happened to this, I don't know. I believe it is a generational thing. To quote
'The Incredibles' - "When everyone is special, no one is special anymore."
I also remember how much easier modeling was than photography.
This sort of thing has happened to me too - complainers, self-important wanna-be Paris Hiltons, everyone thinking they are already a star when they haven't even hit the small time. Last minute cancellations on TFCD with no apology, photographer shopping, even friends at the beginning asking to see my work before I shot them, although they knew I was new and didn't have anything, which was the point of my asking them in the first place.
I long for the old days. Everything is flipflopped now. It also surprises me how some models approach and act towards photographers. I may be new to this myself, but photographers do so much more than just snap a few shots and call it a day. I can't imagine what you guys go through to get that perfect shot and be satisfied with it. It's good to go into this with a modest and humble attitude. Nobody's perfect, I can't stand reading other model's profiles and seeing that they obviously think they are. >.
Model
Veronica L
Posts: 86
Los Angeles, California, US
Tracy Scott Photography wrote:
I remember when I was in front of the camera...a long, long time ago, when models revered the photographers and felt lucky to be shot by them. As models, we didn't act so self-important and as if we were doing the photographers a favor - we actually wanted the photographers to grace us with their presence instead of acting as if we were gracing them with ours.
What happened to this, I don't know. I believe it is a generational thing. To quote
'The Incredibles' - "When everyone is special, no one is special anymore."
I also remember how much easier modeling was than photography.
This sort of thing has happened to me too - complainers, self-important wanna-be Paris Hiltons, everyone thinking they are already a star when they haven't even hit the small time. Last minute cancellations on TFCD with no apology, photographer shopping, even friends at the beginning asking to see my work before I shot them, although they knew I was new and didn't have anything, which was the point of my asking them in the first place.
I long for the old days. Everything is flipflopped now. Hey don't speak for everyone in this generation! I feel very grateful to photographers that offer to shoot with me!  I know that if I'm asked it must mean they see something special & I don't take that for granted, I have a lot of respect for photographers because it is their job to capture art & the chance to be part of that is awesome! I think self-important would def not be a word to describe me cause I know that there are LOTS of models out there & def those that are better than me whom I can learn from & as far as complaining goes if I gotta jump into some water in the middle of a park or something to get the shot the photographer wants, I'll do it...just thought I'd let that out...
Model
Catriona
Posts: 3674
Portland, Oregon, US
Obviously, yes, this girl is a twit.
At the same time, I don't see her attitude as being THAT much different from the many, many photographers who come waltzing into this site with plain, average, snapshot-y, poorly-lit, cheezy, or just plain bad photos and not only expect models to pay them for this work, but then get snitty when the models say no.
Just sayin'.
Model
Catriona
Posts: 3674
Portland, Oregon, US
Also, I have to ask - OP, you've had a profile here since 2006. That's 15 minutes?
Model
LaViolette
Posts: 9865
Hollywood, Florida, US
Catriona wrote:
Obviously, yes, this girl is a twit.
At the same time, I don't see her attitude as being THAT much different from the many, many photographers who come waltzing into this site with plain, average, snapshot-y, poorly-lit, cheezy, or just plain bad photos and not only expect models to pay them for this work, but then get snitty when the models say no.
Just sayin'. I'm so glad u said that. I see photographers that do that all the time. Yet people only wanna bitch about it when its a model acting pissy. Why?
Photographer
LeDeux Art
Posts: 50123
San Ramon, California, US
Awesome Headshots wrote:
So Iâve been on MM a whoppân 15-minutes and a model sends me a message saying Welcome and how sheâd like to have some updated headshots done. I wrote back directing her to my Website with prices and a booking calendar. Before I can pull my finger off the send button, she replies back with âIâm a Professional Model, Photographers pay me, I donât pay Photographers, You must supply a Professional Make-up Artist, the Wardrobe and I always bring an escort with meâ.
So curiosity pushed me to look at her MM account. She has 3-self camera phone pictures, 2-HS Grad pictures and a link indicating more professional photographs HERE going to a MySpace page packed with GIFâs and ear splitting music.
So my question is for you seasoned MMâersâ¦â¦â¦ does it get any better? the part has just begun, it should get much better, just give it some time
Photographer
PYPI FASHION
Posts: 36332
San Francisco, California, US
No matter how bad the model is, there's always an equally crappy photographer to match. The problem is that they are both looking to test up or get paid so it just ends up being a standoff. That's why model and photographers like that never update their ports. They are chasing after the impossible dream. Well at least they can brag to their friends.
Model
Viktoria
Posts: 9795
Bethpage, New York, US
look, that was a personal, professional communication. i really don't appreciate you airing out all this into the forums.
Model
Meagan Andrea
Posts: 214
North Augusta, South Carolina, US
Owch. :X
waiiiit..... *scratches head*
Photographer
UnoMundo
Posts: 47532
Olympia, Washington, US
The bottom feeders always make ridiculous demands.
I am always amused when the cell phone pic crowd starts demanding references and publications and rates.
One told me she would not work with me because my 50mm canon lens looked small..
Photographer
Leroy Dickson
Posts: 8239
Flint, Michigan, US
Oh that is toooooo funny!!!! LMAO!
Welcome!
Model
Steven E Sebastian
Posts: 555
Los Angeles, California, US
Awesome Headshots wrote:
So Iâve been on MM a whoppân 15-minutes and a model sends me a message saying Welcome and how sheâd like to have some updated headshots done. I wrote back directing her to my Website with prices and a booking calendar. Before I can pull my finger off the send button, she replies back with âIâm a Professional Model, Photographers pay me, I donât pay Photographers, You must supply a Professional Make-up Artist, the Wardrobe and I always bring an escort with meâ.
So curiosity pushed me to look at her MM account. She has 3-self camera phone pictures, 2-HS Grad pictures and a link indicating more professional photographs HERE going to a MySpace page packed with GIFâs and ear splitting music.
So my question is for you seasoned MMâersâ¦â¦â¦ does it get any better? LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO that just made my night after a long day of work!
LMAO @ the camera-phone pics. I'm surprised she even knew what a makeup artist was lol.
Photographer
lightonpixels
Posts: 1786
New York, New York, US
Awesome Headshots wrote:
does it get any better? not really. welcome aboard!
Photographer
Erick Anthony Photo
Posts: 918
Murrieta, California, US
Awesome Headshots wrote:
So Iâve been on MM a whoppân 15-minutes and a model sends me a message saying Welcome and how sheâd like to have some updated headshots done. I wrote back directing her to my Website with prices and a booking calendar. Before I can pull my finger off the send button, she replies back with âIâm a Professional Model, Photographers pay me, I donât pay Photographers, You must supply a Professional Make-up Artist, the Wardrobe and I always bring an escort with meâ.
So curiosity pushed me to look at her MM account. She has 3-self camera phone pictures, 2-HS Grad pictures and a link indicating more professional photographs HERE going to a MySpace page packed with GIFâs and ear splitting music.
So my question is for you seasoned MMâersâ¦â¦â¦ does it get any better? hahahhahahhahahahha! sorry, this is just too funny. Model's aaahhhhh God bless them for how forward they are sometimes. 
Model
Meagan Andrea
Posts: 214
North Augusta, South Carolina, US
UnoMundo wrote:
One told me she would not work with me because my 50mm canon lens looked small.. lawlz
what an ass hat.
Photographer
Erick Anthony Photo
Posts: 918
Murrieta, California, US
UnoMundo wrote:
The bottom feeders always make ridiculous demands.
I am always amused when the cell phone pic crowd starts demanding references and publications and rates.
One told me she would not work with me because my 50mm canon lens looked small.. hahhahahahha ROFL I... I can't breath, I can't breath! oh my gosh! That made me laugh so hard I almost pissed myself! Tears EXPLOOOOODED! hahhahahhahahah
Photographer
some something dark sid
Posts: 29
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US
Awesome Headshots wrote:
So Iâve been on MM a whoppân 15-minutes and a model sends me a message saying Welcome and how sheâd like to have some updated headshots done. I wrote back directing her to my Website with prices and a booking calendar. Before I can pull my finger off the send button, she replies back with âIâm a Professional Model, Photographers pay me, I donât pay Photographers, You must supply a Professional Make-up Artist, the Wardrobe and I always bring an escort with meâ.
So curiosity pushed me to look at her MM account. She has 3-self camera phone pictures, 2-HS Grad pictures and a link indicating more professional photographs HERE going to a MySpace page packed with GIFâs and ear splitting music.
So my question is for you seasoned MMâersâ¦â¦â¦ does it get any better? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL sorry... that was friggin funny.. that happened to me 2 times. lol... so i followed through with it and ONLY brought my camera phone.. nothing else... she was expecting a whole entourage to follow... she asked me where was everyone... i told her that she looked like she was used to camera phone photos so that's what i brought... she stormed out, shouted obscenities.... i laughed and now have a funny story to tell at her expense.. but yeah it gets better! lol...
Makeup Artist
T
Posts: 53557
Washington, District of Columbia, US
So Awesome Headshots does this mean you're not interested in booking a shoot with her?  
Model
Roger Wingfield
Posts: 179
Brooklyn, New York, US
wait... phone pics aren't professional?
damn. I've been duped.
Photographer
Bob Bentley Photography
Posts: 15141
Westcliffe, Colorado, US
Take 2 asprins and see me in the morning (only I will probably flake on you and not be there).
Model
Camilai
Posts: 1845
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Tell her that maybe if she keeps pushing her myspace page, MTV will give her a reality tv show..
Photographer
DVP Photography
Posts: 2874
Broomfield, Colorado, US
This made by day, just too funny!
It does get better, you sure got a doozy for starters!
Photographer
Sam Photoes
Posts: 299
Gurnee, Illinois, US
Awesome Headshots wrote:
So Iâve been on MM a whoppân 15-minutes and a model sends me a message saying Welcome and how sheâd like to have some updated headshots done. I wrote back directing her to my Website with prices and a booking calendar. Before I can pull my finger off the send button, she replies back with âIâm a Professional Model, Photographers pay me, I donât pay Photographers, You must supply a Professional Make-up Artist, the Wardrobe and I always bring an escort with meâ.
So curiosity pushed me to look at her MM account. She has 3-self camera phone pictures, 2-HS Grad pictures and a link indicating more professional photographs HERE going to a MySpace page packed with GIFâs and ear splitting music.
So my question is for you seasoned MMâersâ¦â¦â¦ does it get any better? lol, about that...........
Photographer
PTownPhoto
Posts: 75
Pleasanton, California, US
You gotta love stuff like that! The amazing thing is that "someone (or something)" actually put some thought into that creation... that is what amazes me. A lot to be said for time well spent. Just think, you could have gone to the dentist and had a tooth pulled with equal satisfaction! Instead, you had the joy of experiencing someone's idiotic idea of self worth... No harm no foul... fo' getta' bout' it! Enjoy!
Photographer
RobertsPhotogrqaphy
Posts: 156
It gets better but there definitely are some reality impaired individuals here.
Photographer
MichaelDean
Posts: 165
Austin, Texas, US
Hey, at least someone wanted to shoot with you! That's more than can be said about some of us! 
Model
Whiskey Ginger
Posts: 1789
Huntington Beach, California, US
Don't take this the wrong way, but I think you are the pot calling the kettle black. Now, I went to your site to review your prices, and I almost choked on my food. I think you need more practice before you start charging $250 for your awesome headshots. There is definately a quality problem there.
Photographer
RobertsPhotogrqaphy
Posts: 156
UnoMundo wrote:
The bottom feeders always make ridiculous demands.
I am always amused when the cell phone pic crowd starts demanding references and publications and rates.
One told me she would not work with me because my 50mm canon lens looked small.. LOL
Model
Hawke
Posts: 7
New York, New York, US
that was great! thanks for sharing that story
Photographer
Michael R Kihn Studios
Posts: 2559
Erie, Pennsylvania, US
Awesome Headshots wrote:
So Iâve been on MM a whoppân 15-minutes and a model sends me a message saying Welcome and how sheâd like to have some updated headshots done. I wrote back directing her to my Website with prices and a booking calendar. Before I can pull my finger off the send button, she replies back with âIâm a Professional Model, Photographers pay me, I donât pay Photographers, You must supply a Professional Make-up Artist, the Wardrobe and I always bring an escort with meâ.
So curiosity pushed me to look at her MM account. She has 3-self camera phone pictures, 2-HS Grad pictures and a link indicating more professional photographs HERE going to a MySpace page packed with GIFâs and ear splitting music.
So my question is for you seasoned MMâersâ¦â¦â¦ does it get any better? Welcome to Myspace
oops MM
o hell what's the difference
Model
Amy Elane
Posts: 2
Los Angeles, California, US
Awesome Headshots wrote:
So Iâve been on MM a whoppân 15-minutes and a model sends me a message saying Welcome and how sheâd like to have some updated headshots done. I wrote back directing her to my Website with prices and a booking calendar. Before I can pull my finger off the send button, she replies back with âIâm a Professional Model, Photographers pay me, I donât pay Photographers, You must supply a Professional Make-up Artist, the Wardrobe and I always bring an escort with meâ.
That is a shame! She gives us newcomers a bad name! Well, just goes to show you how un-professional a lot of people's definition of "professional" is! haha
So curiosity pushed me to look at her MM account. She has 3-self camera phone pictures, 2-HS Grad pictures and a link indicating more professional photographs HERE going to a MySpace page packed with GIFâs and ear splitting music.
So my question is for you seasoned MMâersâ¦â¦â¦ does it get any better?
Photographer
Diana Jo
Posts: 787
Marysville, Washington, US
Whiskey Ginger wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way, but I think you are the pot calling the kettle black. Now, I went to your site to review your prices, and I almost choked on my food. I think you need more practice before you start charging $250 for your awesome headshots. There is definately a quality problem there. Unsolicited critique much?
Photographer
James Cochran
Posts: 87
Cockeysville, Maryland, US
Awesome Headshots wrote:
So Iâve been on MM a whoppân 15-minutes and a model sends me a message saying Welcome and how sheâd like to have some updated headshots done. I wrote back directing her to my Website with prices and a booking calendar. Before I can pull my finger off the send button, she replies back with âIâm a Professional Model, Photographers pay me, I donât pay Photographers, You must supply a Professional Make-up Artist, the Wardrobe and I always bring an escort with meâ.
So curiosity pushed me to look at her MM account. She has 3-self camera phone pictures, 2-HS Grad pictures and a link indicating more professional photographs HERE going to a MySpace page packed with GIFâs and ear splitting music.
So my question is for you seasoned MMâersâ¦â¦â¦ does it get any better? Why would you think it gets better when a "professional" modeling site is just like another myspace. Except I have had better luck and met more talent on myspace.
Photographer
Studio K
Posts: 172
Honolulu, Hawaii, US
Meagan Andrea wrote:
lawlz
what an ass hat. haha ass hat
Photographer
IMS FotoGrafix
Posts: 1153
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Yeah it gets a a lot better, you just have to be able to provide a quality of image that models want .
Photographer
AndreBelmont
Posts: 93
Lake Stevens, Washington, US
You didn't find value in shooting her, she didn't find value in shooting with you - end of story.
Photographer
IMGPhoto-HI
Posts: 649
Tempe, Arizona, US
Tracy Scott Photography wrote:
I remember when I was in front of the camera...a long, long time ago, when models revered the photographers and felt lucky to be shot by them. As models, we didn't act so self-important and as if we were doing the photographers a favor - we actually wanted the photographers to grace us with their presence instead of acting as if we were gracing them with ours.
What happened to this, I don't know. I believe it is a generational thing. To quote
'The Incredibles' - "When everyone is special, no one is special anymore."
I also remember how much easier modeling was than photography.
This sort of thing has happened to me too - complainers, self-important wanna-be Paris Hiltons, everyone thinking they are already a star when they haven't even hit the small time. Last minute cancellations on TFCD with no apology, photographer shopping, even friends at the beginning asking to see my work before I shot them, although they knew I was new and didn't have anything, which was the point of my asking them in the first place.
I long for the old days. Everything is flipflopped now. Amen, brothah! LOL. An INSATIABLE sense of entitlement seems to be the rule, NOT the exception. It was not like this even just several years ago. Of course I have not been on the net for 5 years but I HAD noticed this trend in real life. It is just worse on the internet. In a recent topic, I remarked how much more can we cater to you? Is there ever enough? NO.
You can scout someone in real life and they actually believe you should pay them...to promote them to an agency. Go figure. lol. Needy, needy, it's all about me people everywhere. Mustn't have gotten some important emotional things from Mummy and Daddy. "Show me how much you love me and how much you can do for me!" "Chase me and chase me and I'll be POPULAR, I'll feel loved and be empty inside just the same!"
WTF! 
My response: What have you done for me late-leeeeeeeeee????????
It screws it up for the legit ones, more's the pity. How can anyone book anything with them with all the fishing expeditions in the way? Well, they miss one single "I'll call you tomorrow" and then they don't...that's it. Next!
Photographer
Paul Bryson Photography
Posts: 48041
Hollywood, Florida, US
Greetings from sunny southern Florida, where the world's most powerful thunderstorms, lightning, hurricanes, and stuff exist. Remind you of ModelMyspace in any way? Oops, I meant ModelMayhem.
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I know that if I'm asked it must mean they see something special & I don't take that for granted, I have a lot of respect for photographers because it is their job to capture art & the chance to be part of that is awesome! I think self-important would def not be a word to describe me cause I know that there are LOTS of models out there & def those that are better than me whom I can learn from & as far as complaining goes if I gotta jump into some water in the middle of a park or something to get the shot the photographer wants, I'll do it...just thought I'd let that out...