Posted by Reese: 
I am curious - I don't know much about the porn industry...  but I noticed on other websites (just one) it is listed as "Adult Entertainment," and many refer to the stars or performers if one will, as "models..."  Are Porn Stars / Actresses models per say?  I am sure that they do / can model - but are they "models?" I don't know... I have never dealt with that part of the industry (is it part of the industry?)

I think the answer to your question lies in this question what really is a model. If it's someone who poses for something then yes. If it's someone who shows something off then yes. *WINK*

Posted by Reese:
Then I am curious, when they are "acting"  are they really acting?  Because I don't see how they are "acting" like they are having sex. They are indeed having sex...  I know, it's a dumb as heck question -but I am just curious.

Have you seen some of the guys these girls perform with? You'd be acting like you actually enjoy what you're doing with that person. LOL

But in actuallity I get so many guys who talk about how they can do it and how good they'd be so I give em a shot. I grab one of my best girls and it's lights cameras, oooops no action.

Fact is there is a certain amount of "acting" because not all those positions are that comfortable or fun. You've damn near got to be a contortionist to get in place for the camera to capture the action. And not all the things being done are particularly comfortable and enjoyable to the "actors". A situation of camera angle more than anything else.

In some cases you've gotta act like there arent a whole bunch of people standing around watching you or a cameraman close enough to be a protologist.

Posted by Reese:
I am in no way casting judgement on anyone in the industry - but I am curious as to how exactly one categorizes those who partake in that particular field.

Well when it comes to the ladies there is Jenna, and NOT Jenna but wants to be... LOL

Ooooh I wont even begin to talk about the injury report in porn....

Posted by Cicada: 
models.....probably isnt the right word to use...

i think the word most often used is 'talent'....though...that's also a misnomer.

Hey it takes a lot of talent to do a double anal. And to suck more than one guy off at a time while a rabid midget is down under.... LOL

Posted by Cicada: 
models.....probably isnt the right word to use...

i think the word most often used is 'talent'....though...that's also a misnomer.

According to Dave Barry people in the television industry use the word "talent" to mean exactly the same thing people in the information technology industry mean when they say "user."

That is, it means, "Idiot who will do the wrong thing if there is any possible way for them to do it."

I try not to use the word. If there's a still camera pointed at her, she's a model. If there's a video camera pointed at her, she's an actress. All other definitions are subject to personal interpretation.

Posted by DJ Foothill: 

Posted by Cicada: 
models.....probably isnt the right word to use...

i think the word most often used is 'talent'....though...that's also a misnomer.

Hey it takes a lot of talent to do a double anal. And to suck more than one guy off at a time while a rabid midget is down under.... LOL

well see, that i cna understand. there's 'talent' in what i call 'special moves' haha...Jayna Oso and others who do double anal/double vag...cytherea being a human super soaker..taylor rain and her elastic a....

Posted by Cicada: 

Posted by DJ Foothill: 

Posted by Cicada: 
models.....probably isnt the right word to use...

i think the word most often used is 'talent'....though...that's also a misnomer.

Hey it takes a lot of talent to do a double anal. And to suck more than one guy off at a time while a rabid midget is down under.... LOL

well see, that i cna understand. there's 'talent' in what i call 'special moves' haha...Jayna Oso and others who do double anal/double vag...cytherea being a human super soaker..taylor rain and her elastic a....

Yea!!

Posted by Hugh  Jorgen ©: 

Posted by Cicada: 

Posted by DJ Foothill: 

Posted by Cicada: 
models.....probably isnt the right word to use...

i think the word most often used is 'talent'....though...that's also a misnomer.

Hey it takes a lot of talent to do a double anal. And to suck more than one guy off at a time while a rabid midget is down under.... LOL

well see, that i cna understand. there's 'talent' in what i call 'special moves' haha...Jayna Oso and others who do double anal/double vag...cytherea being a human super soaker..taylor rain and her elastic a....

Yea!!

hahahaha...

Posted by Brent Burzycki: 
Also most of them pose for stills - thus they are models.... and alot of the girls are actually pretty hot... so they must me models...

this is true..

Posted by Cicada: 

Jayna Oso and others who do double anal/double vag...cytherea being a human super soaker..taylor rain and her elastic a....

Ah what money will do to a person...... but i have to say - Cytherea is a site to behold.... at least once...

Posted by Brent Burzycki: 

Posted by Cicada: 

Jayna Oso and others who do double anal/double vag...cytherea being a human super soaker..taylor rain and her elastic a....

Ah what money will do to a person...... but i have to say - Cytherea is a site to behold.... at least once...

it really is amazing.

Posted by theda: 
Considering how ugly and embarassing looking REAL sex is, I'd definitely say that what the lads and lassies are doing in the porn industry is acting and/or modeling.

I give particular credit to the men. That's not something you can... err... fake.

Posted by Cicada: 
well see, that i cna understand. there's 'talent' in what i call 'special moves' haha...Jayna Oso and others who do double anal/double vag...cytherea being a human super soaker..taylor rain and her elastic a....

I love Cytheria, I remember when she got started in the biz by sending me an email. You shouldve seen the look on the faces of the HBO crew when she soaked their cameras and almost entire crew from across the room. See TALENT. LOL

I performed Taylor's wedding ceremony in Vegas in 03.... The video of that is up at http://www.ksexradio.com And you're right she and Brandi Lyons both have that elastic, stretch armstrong thing going on. *Looks fondly at pics with Taylor from one of my shoots, and wonders, how did she decide her whole hand could fit in there?*

Theda, you're right. Sex is the most clumsy thing two people can do. *Goes to find someone to be clumsy with* LOL

Miss P... Jenna is Jenna because of that marketing machine called VIVID! But she is one smart cookie. She and Tera Patrick who actually has a degree in Bio-Chemical Engineering. Imagine that.

Posted by Brent Burzycki: 
Well thats not true fully - as my buddy that thought he was so cool - (and did not have erectile issues) took a viagra pill - BIG Mistake...... erection for 12 hours...

He had to go to the DR... and no people it was not me.. I am truly not that stupid - but on the photogrpahy side - if you need a monopod in a pinch - Viagra all the way..

Did the Doc tell him to ice it? I would be too embarrassed to go to a doctor with THAT problem....LOL I think since the invention of Viagra hospital trauma units should have a stable of women DE-Fluffers... LOL

All I need for a monopod in a pinch is a Nikki Dial, Crystal Steel sandwich and Im good... LOL

Posted by DJ Foothill: 

Posted by Cicada: 
well see, that i cna understand. there's 'talent' in what i call 'special moves' haha...Jayna Oso and others who do double anal/double vag...cytherea being a human super soaker..taylor rain and her elastic a....

I love Cytheria, I remember when she got started in the biz by sending me an email. You shouldve seen the look on the faces of the HBO crew when she soaked their cameras and almost entire crew from across the room. See TALENT. LOL

I performed Taylor's wedding ceremony in Vegas in 03.... The video of that is up at http://www.ksexradio.com And you're right she and Brandi Lyons both have that elastic, stretch armstrong thing going on. *Looks fondly at pics with Taylor from one of my shoots, and wonders, how did she decide her whole hand could fit in there?*

Theda, you're right. Sex is the most clumsy thing two people can do. *Goes to find someone to be clumsy with* LOL

Miss P... Jenna is Jenna because of that marketing machine called VIVID! But she is one smart cookie. She and Tera Patrick who actually has a degree in Bio-Chemical Engineering. Imagine that.

Posted by Brent Burzycki: 
Well thats not true fully - as my buddy that thought he was so cool - (and did not have erectile issues) took a viagra pill - BIG Mistake...... erection for 12 hours...

He had to go to the DR... and no people it was not me.. I am truly not that stupid - but on the photogrpahy side - if you need a monopod in a pinch - Viagra all the way..

Did the Doc tell him to ice it? I would be too embarrassed to go to a doctor with THAT problem....LOL I think since the invention of Viagra hospital trauma units should have a stable of women DE-Fluffers... LOL

All I need for a monopod in a pinch is a Nikki Dial, Crystal Steel sandwich and Im good... LOL

Wow youre cool

Posted by DJ Foothill: 

Posted by Cicada: 
well see, that i cna understand. there's 'talent' in what i call 'special moves' haha...Jayna Oso and others who do double anal/double vag...cytherea being a human super soaker..taylor rain and her elastic a....

I love Cytheria, I remember when she got started in the biz by sending me an email. You shouldve seen the look on the faces of the HBO crew when she soaked their cameras and almost entire crew from across the room. See TALENT. LOL

I performed Taylor's wedding ceremony in Vegas in 03.... The video of that is up at http://www.ksexradio.com And you're right she and Brandi Lyons both have that elastic, stretch armstrong thing going on. *Looks fondly at pics with Taylor from one of my shoots, and wonders, how did she decide her whole hand could fit in there?*

Theda, you're right. Sex is the most clumsy thing two people can do. *Goes to find someone to be clumsy with* LOL

Miss P... Jenna is Jenna because of that marketing machine called VIVID! But she is one smart cookie. She and Tera Patrick who actually has a degree in Bio-Chemical Engineering. Imagine that.

Posted by Brent Burzycki: 
Well thats not true fully - as my buddy that thought he was so cool - (and did not have erectile issues) took a viagra pill - BIG Mistake...... erection for 12 hours...

He had to go to the DR... and no people it was not me.. I am truly not that stupid - but on the photogrpahy side - if you need a monopod in a pinch - Viagra all the way..

Did the Doc tell him to ice it? I would be too embarrassed to go to a doctor with THAT problem....LOL I think since the invention of Viagra hospital trauma units should have a stable of women DE-Fluffers... LOL

All I need for a monopod in a pinch is a Nikki Dial, Crystal Steel sandwich and Im good... LOL

i love taylor rain

nikki dial, nikki benz...krystal steal... all VERY hot.

one, though that i think coould be a legitimate model [not that porn is not a legitimate business..hell its one of _the_ largest businesses...]..."Michelle B"; absolutely gorgeous, but hey, whatever makes you happy.

Posted by ( ANT ) Mgaphoto: 
Wow youre cool

i'm not sure why, but that made me laugh.

Posted by DJ Foothill: 
LOL I think since the invention of Viagra hospital trauma units should have a stable of women DE-Fluffers... LOL

All I need for a monopod in a pinch is a Nikki Dial, Crystal Steel sandwich and Im good... LOL

If they are hot - i woudl get sick more often...

Also Nikki Dial - has to be in my opinion - the hottest porn star ever.... now that girl has talent... too bad she is no longer anywhere to be found..

Posted by Mistress Purgatori: 
the majority of them defintley are "models".the majority of them don't just do porn movies but box covers,magazines etc..
perfect example is JENNA JAMESON.she started off as a stripper,then got into ADULT modeling AND THEN WENT INTO PORN.but she kept modeling and stripping.
that woman knows how to earn her money,and now look she has a fucking empire.
xxx
MP

"... she has a fucking empire." There is a double meaning to that!   lol

Posted by Cicada: 
models.....probably isnt the right word to use...

i think the word most often used is 'talent'....though...that's also a misnomer.

I'm not going to judge anyone who does porn but it really takes no talent to be having sex in front of a camera. Anyone can do that.

When a porn can make me cry and make me feel all fuzzy inside that is when I can actually consider it entertainment, until then, it's just going to be people doing the nasty on film.

Posted by ( ANT ) Mgaphoto: 
Wow youre cool

Don't hate the player son... hate the game.

Posted by Cicada: 
i love taylor rain

nikki dial, nikki benz...krystal steal... all VERY hot.

one, though that i think coould be a legitimate model [not that porn is not a legitimate business..hell its one of _the_ largest businesses...]..."Michelle B"; absolutely gorgeous, but hey, whatever makes you happy.

Taylor and Gauge are my special A.D.D girls... LOL
Hey the only way I would kick Michelle B out of bed is cuz there's more room on the floor.

Posted by Brent Burzycki: 
Also Nikki Dial - has to be in my opinion - the hottest porn star ever.... now that girl has talent... too bad she is no longer anywhere to be found..

I agree Brent. And she's totally sweet to boot. And actually she's back in the business. She just did some voice over work with Jenna for some anime movie. And she's been doing shoots here and there. She's just not doing any video work. But I think if I keep calling her weekly she'll finally give in just to get me off her case.

Posted by Patrick Walberg: 
"... she has a fucking empire." There is a double meaning to that!   lol

Double meaning? Where? It is EXACTLY what it is... LOL A "FUCKING" Empire... LOL Though I loved Sunrise Adam's answer to the question if she wanted to be Jenna. She said no, Jenna was a fad. She wanted to be Ginger Lynn, Cuz Ginger is a legend. Soooo right!

Posted by Alexandra Paris: 
I'm not going to judge anyone who does porn but it really takes no talent to be having sex in front of a camera. Anyone can do that.

When a porn can make me cry and make me feel all fuzzy inside that is when I can actually consider it entertainment, until then, it's just going to be people doing the nasty on film.

Really? Sounded pretty judgemental to me.  And you really think that just anyone can do it? And this is from your extensive knowledge of the industry how?

Porn isn't usually designed to make you cry or feel or warm and fuzzy inside. Though I have seen some that has made me cry because it was soooo bad.

But then there is the work of Andrew Blake, Michael Ninn, Wes Craven that is extremely artisic and hardcore as well.

Posted by DJ Foothill: 

Posted by ( ANT ) Mgaphoto: 
Wow youre cool

Don't hate the player son... hate the game.

Posted by Cicada: 
i love taylor rain

nikki dial, nikki benz...krystal steal... all VERY hot.

one, though that i think coould be a legitimate model [not that porn is not a legitimate business..hell its one of _the_ largest businesses...]..."Michelle B"; absolutely gorgeous, but hey, whatever makes you happy.

Taylor and Gauge are my special A.D.D girls... LOL
Hey the only way I would kick Michelle B out of bed is cuz there's more room on the floor.

Posted by Brent Burzycki: 
Also Nikki Dial - has to be in my opinion - the hottest porn star ever.... now that girl has talent... too bad she is no longer anywhere to be found..

I agree Brent. And she's totally sweet to boot. And actually she's back in the business. She just did some voice over work with Jenna for some anime movie. And she's been doing shoots here and there. She's just not doing any video work. But I think if I keep calling her weekly she'll finally give in just to get me off her case.

Posted by Patrick Walberg: 
"... she has a fucking empire." There is a double meaning to that!   lol

Double meaning? Where? It is EXACTLY what it is... LOL A "FUCKING" Empire... LOL Though I loved Sunrise Adam's answer to the question if she wanted to be Jenna. She said no, Jenna was a fad. She wanted to be Ginger Lynn, Cuz Ginger is a legend. Soooo right!

Dude you are the bomb! LMFAO!!!

Posted by jimmyd: 
yah... i've hung out with them plenty. and their 420 parties are legendary. i've shot cy a bunch of times: video and/or stills. and one time, shooting vid.... well, let's say i didn't get out of the way fast enough... hehehehhe

here's another of cy that i had some fun with in PS

I think every photographer whose shot her has experienced that. Damaged equipment because of her. Well except me. Did she tell you about the time she was on the floor of the studio and did her Ole faithfull routine and hit the cieling? Even I was impressed.

The last party of thiers I went to was her birthday party in 03.

Posted by Brent Burzycki: 


Well thats not true fully - as my buddy that thought he was so cool - (and did not have erectile issues) took a viagra pill - BIG Mistake...... erection for 12 hours...

He had to go to the DR... and no people it was not me.. I am truly not that stupid - but on the photogrpahy side - if you need a monopod in a pinch - Viagra all the way..

Posted by theda: 
Considering how ugly and embarassing looking REAL sex is, I'd definitely say that what the lads and lassies are doing in the porn industry is acting and/or modeling.

I give particular credit to the men. That's not something you can... err... fake.

Well you can take drugs to get it up but there is no drug to...um..finish the job. Men in the porn industry get paid less but have a more difficult job than the women.

Posted by Alexandra Paris: 

Posted by Cicada: 
models.....probably isnt the right word to use...

i think the word most often used is 'talent'....though...that's also a misnomer.

I'm not going to judge anyone who does porn but it really takes no talent to be having sex in front of a camera. Anyone can do that.

Well the vast majority of women are faking the orgasims and faking even being turned on. I'm not saying that faking sex makes you talented but not everyone can do it well.

Posted by Leila: 
Well the vast majority of women are faking the orgasims and faking even being turned on. I'm not saying that faking sex makes you talented but not everyone can do it well.

And yes guys that includes your wives and girlfriends.... Oh I just couldn't resist that. Sorry.

Well Leila, see faking it well takes talent. LOL

Posted by jimmyd: 
for those of you who like cytherea





i've shot lots more of her.

very cool. where can i find more?

Posted by DJ Foothill: 
hit the cieling? Even I was impressed.

christ.

Posted by Cicada: 

Posted by DJ Foothill: 
hit the cieling? Even I was impressed.

christ.

I think her site is http://club-cytheria.com if not just google her name and I am sure you'll find plenty.

Or go to http://www.askjolene.com and search her name.