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UnoMundo
Posts: 47532
Olympia, Washington, US
Is this obscene ? ![https://www.planetsoldier.com/skinz/forums/boob1.jpg]()
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Quay Lude
Posts: 6386
Madison, Wisconsin, US
Jessalyn wrote:
you could live in a country for a long time and know nothing about it WHAT?
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Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
Serevende Photography wrote:
WHAT? I know, I know, it's shocking.
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Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
UnoMundo Photography wrote:
Is this obscene ?
![https://www.planetsoldier.com/skinz/forums/boob1.jpg]() GAH!
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Quay Lude
Posts: 6386
Madison, Wisconsin, US
UnoMundo Photography wrote:
Is this obscene ?
![https://www.planetsoldier.com/skinz/forums/boob1.jpg]() No. But hot? Oh yeah. Very hot. Huge nipples are AWESOME!
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Vivus Hussein Denuo
Posts: 64211
New York, New York, US
I recall documentaries showing women in hunter-gatherer societies walking around topless and nothing is thought of it. Breast-morality seems to arrive with agriculture and keeping domestic animals. I wonder what that's about.
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Gary Blanchette
Posts: 5137
Irvine, California, US
UnoMundo Photography wrote:
Is this obscene ?
![https://www.planetsoldier.com/skinz/forums/boob1.jpg]() Dude! You outta have that checked!
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Veteres Vitri
Posts: 1994
MAYLENE, Alabama, US
Vivus Denuo wrote:
I recall documentaries showing women in hunter-gatherer societies walking around topless and nothing is thought of it. Breast-morality seems to arrive with agriculture and keeping domestic animals. I wonder what that's about. it was a moo-vement
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Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
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CantikFotos
Posts: 256
Vivus Denuo wrote:
I recall documentaries showing women in hunter-gatherer societies walking around topless and nothing is thought of it. Yeah......you can see it if you can get a special pass from the Indonesian government and go up in the hills of Irian Jaya.......of course, if you're a guy, you'd better bring your penis gourd. There are few (very few) hunter-gatherer tribes left anywhere in the world........
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Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
CantikFotos wrote:
Yeah......you can see it if you can get a special pass from the Indonesian government and go up in the hills of Irian Jaya.......of course, if you're a guy, you'd better bring your penis gourd. There are few (very few) hunter-gatherer tribes left anywhere in the world........ yea, there are very few hunter-gatherer societies left on the planet, but there are still plenty of small scale farming societies that walk around nakee too.
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Click Hamilton
Posts: 36555
San Diego, California, US
Jessalyn wrote:
the vast majority of countries across the world are most definitely ok with the female nipple.
you probably mean the vast majority of industrialized countries. No disrespect intended Jessalyn, but you sound severely cultural-centric and naive. You need to get out more.
Most countries of the world considers Americans to be like promiscuous whores of Hollywood. Girls Gone Wild is broadcast everywhere in the world, and it's stuff like this that represents us. In fact, maybe it does.
China is extremely strict on "pornography" ... India is very conservative to the point of wife burning to protect the reputation of the family. How much of the world is Muslim, and in today's climate, what's the Muslim view about showing skin in public? South American is highly conservative about these things. Try a nude photo shoot in Mexico and see what happens if you get caught.
That short list of demographics is most of the world.
Where is this great and omnipresent liberalism with nudity you claim exists, outside of brothels and sex districts? Amsterdam? Hamburg? Patpong? ... or is it because western Europe shows boobs on shampoo commercials? When we go to a nude beach here, we are nude. Most public sunny places in Europe are topless but not bottomless.
I like you Jessalyn, but I must respectfully disagree. You need to get out into the real world more and stop listening to so much local anti American propaganda.
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Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
Click Hamilton wrote:
No disrespect intended Jessalyn, but you sound severely cultural-centric and naive. You need to get out more.
Most countries of the world considers Americans to be like promiscuous whores of Hollywood. Girls Gone Wild is broadcast everywhere in the world, and it's stuff like this that represents us. In fact, maybe it does.
China is extremely strict on "pornography" ... India is very conservative to the point of wife burning to protect the reputation of the family. How much of the world is Muslim, and in today's climate, what's the Muslim view about showing skin in public? South American is highly conservative about these things. Try a nude photo shoot in Mexico and see what happens if you get caught.
That short list of demographics is most of the world.
Where is this great and omnipresent liberalism with nudity you claim exists, outside of brothels and sex districts? Amsterdam? Hamburg? Patpong? ... or is it because western Europe shows boobs on shampoo commercials? When we go to a nude beach here, we are nude. Most public sunny places in Europe are topless but not bottomless.
I like you Jessalyn, but I must respectfully disagree. You need to get out into the real world more and stop listening to so much local anti American propaganda. no no, my comments weren't meant to be culture-centric, my comments were trying to show that "industrialized" countries aren't the only ones in the world. what I was getting at is there there are plenty of tribes across this world that are prefectly fine with nudity. I completely agree with what you said above. but the locations you mentioned (except for India which is up for debate on being "industrialized" since parts are and parts aren't) are "industrialized" countries.
and I love you Click, but I'm disappointed that you played the age card on me.
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UnoMundo
Posts: 47532
Olympia, Washington, US
nipples by themselves are fine.
Once you attach a boob to a nipple you get banned in Kansas.
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CantikFotos
Posts: 256
Click Hamilton wrote:
Most countries of the world considers Americans to be like promiscuous whores of Hollywood. Girls Gone Wild is broadcast everywhere in the world, and it's stuff like this that represents us. In fact, maybe it does. Exactly! The biggest complaint American women have when traveling here in Asia is how the local men expect them to have sex with them at the drop of a hat. They get the idea from imported American TV shows and American movies so when they see some American women wearing a tshirt without a bra standing at the bus stop, they assume they're going to get some action.
Boy, do they get a surprise.
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Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
UnoMundo Photography wrote:
nipples by themselves are fine.
Once you attach a boob to a nipple you get banned in Kansas. Fred Phelps is a boob but he hasn't been banned yet. We just need to attach a nipple to him and I think we're good to go.
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American Glamour
Posts: 38813
Detroit, Michigan, US
Jessalyn wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUP9Jm9SqvY Cute video. Just curious. Would you sign?
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CantikFotos
Posts: 256
Jessalyn wrote:
I completely agree with what you said above. but the locations you mentioned (except for India which is up for debate on being "industrialized" since parts are and parts aren't) are "industrialized" countries. China industrialized? Are you serious????
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Quay Lude
Posts: 6386
Madison, Wisconsin, US
Jessalyn wrote:
no no, my comments weren't meant to be culture-centric, my comments were trying to show that "industrialized" countries aren't the only ones in the world. what I was getting at is there there are plenty of tribes across this world that are prefectly fine with nudity. I completely agree with what you said above. but the locations you mentioned (except for India which is up for debate on being "industrialized" since parts are and parts aren't) are "industrialized" countries. I could have written something very similar to what Jess wrote here. 20 years ago, tripping on cheap blotter acid. I have to call CNN. India is "up for debate" again.
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Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
Alan from Aavian Prod wrote:
Cute video. Just curious. Would you sign? lol
I woulda signed it "Iman Idiot"
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Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
CantikFotos wrote:
China industrialized? Are you serious???? depends on what we're calling industrialized. I missed that one. there are parts that are and parts that aren't industrialized. just like India.
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Jessalyn
Posts: 21433
Denver, Colorado, US
most of the stuff I said got taken out of context, or folks are focusing on unimportant stuff and missing the big picture, so I give up.
I'm out. gotta get back to my website.
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nevar
Posts: 14670
Fort Smith, Arkansas, US
I once wrote a thread titled "what if I photoshop a male nipple on?" With this same question as to why it is that male nipples are not taboo to show to children.
The best explaination I recieved was that breasts are still considered sexual in nature... Anything that is sexual in it's utility shouldn't be shown to children. male nipples are not a sexual utility (some would argue that) and thus are just fine to put in childrens books.
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G D Peters Photography
Posts: 3657
North Platte, Nebraska, US
Social mores, messed up! Yea, Canada!
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UnoMundo
Posts: 47532
Olympia, Washington, US
LarryB wrote:
It's obviously discrimination. What we need is for somebody to get on a bus with her nipples out and refuse to put 'em away.
It worked for Rosa Parks, why can't it work for the nipple? J E S S A L Y N ....your cause...I wil be right beside you.
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samir safwat
Posts: 49
Darien, Connecticut, US
The Female nipple is our first mandala and visual mantra.. it provides us with all the nourishment we need as infants.. we become addicted to it .. and later we are deprived of its image... go figure!!!!
the female nipple provides nourishment... the male nipple has no such function as far as i know...
that would be the basic difference.. but why one is taboo and the other is not is a mystery
Maybe....
the taboo has to do ith that initial experience we all have with the nipple if we are breast fed.
just my 2 cents worth
peace care & trust
samir
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PerceptionZ Studio
Posts: 339
Havana, Arkansas, US
If a guy got breast implants, would it be considered 18+? Think about it... you have to wonder.... if the answer is no, then why? If the answer is yes, then why?
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Alluring Exposures
Posts: 11400
Casa Grande, Arizona, US
This is the result of society banning public display of female nipples. If women went topless all the time, nobody would pay to see anyone's nipples. bang bang photo wrote:
It's not really a direct answer, but I think it illuminates the question a bit:
What percentage of women will pay money or stand in line to see a guy's nipple?
What percentage of men will pay money or stand in line to see a woman's nipple?
Interesting, huh.
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Rik Austin
Posts: 12165
Austin, Texas, US
Jessalyn wrote:
lol
I woulda signed it "Iman Idiot" I used to think it made a difference. Probably should be banned for everyone and then we wouldn't have to listen to those damn commercials.
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PerceptionZ Studio
Posts: 339
Havana, Arkansas, US
In Europe, the female body is considered a work of art.... In the U.S., people are brought up believing that it should be private... unless of course, it is an art model... why?
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Alluring Exposures
Posts: 11400
Casa Grande, Arizona, US
Tit? tit -noun 1. a titmouse. 2. any of various other small birds. 3. Archaic. a girl or young woman; hussy. 4. Archaic. a small or poor horse; nag. 5. a teat. 6. Slang: Vulgar. a breast. Cecil Sharps wrote:
No it is teh tit. Male nipples and female nipples can look very similar. Personally i'd like to visit a world where the tit is free to wander around in the sun. Being social and talking to people on the street.
I wouldn't want to live there because i think tits might loose some of thier magical qualities if they were allowed to roam free.
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Alluring Exposures
Posts: 11400
Casa Grande, Arizona, US
Plants don't have breasts?  Vivus Denuo wrote:
I recall documentaries showing women in hunter-gatherer societies walking around topless and nothing is thought of it. Breast-morality seems to arrive with agriculture and keeping domestic animals. I wonder what that's about.
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Glenn Worton
Posts: 1444
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
You should live in Ontario - A couple of years back a young lady took a court challenge all the way to the Supreme Court - her argument - If men can go topless in public, the equal rights law says women can too - the Court agreed - so it is legal in Ontario for women to go topless in public - unfortunately few do -
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Alluring Exposures
Posts: 11400
Casa Grande, Arizona, US
I've gone to Puerto Peñasco and Puerto Vallarta and shot nudes in the beach. The cops came by, I gave them a $100 bill and they gave me a password in case other officers came by and then he went on his way. Click Hamilton wrote:
No disrespect intended Jessalyn, but you sound severely cultural-centric and naive. You need to get out more.
Most countries of the world considers Americans to be like promiscuous whores of Hollywood. Girls Gone Wild is broadcast everywhere in the world, and it's stuff like this that represents us. In fact, maybe it does.
China is extremely strict on "pornography" ... India is very conservative to the point of wife burning to protect the reputation of the family. How much of the world is Muslim, and in today's climate, what's the Muslim view about showing skin in public? South American is highly conservative about these things. Try a nude photo shoot in Mexico and see what happens if you get caught.
That short list of demographics is most of the world.
Where is this great and omnipresent liberalism with nudity you claim exists, outside of brothels and sex districts? Amsterdam? Hamburg? Patpong? ... or is it because western Europe shows boobs on shampoo commercials? When we go to a nude beach here, we are nude. Most public sunny places in Europe are topless but not bottomless.
I like you Jessalyn, but I must respectfully disagree. You need to get out into the real world more and stop listening to so much local anti American propaganda.
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UIPHOTOS
Posts: 3591
Dayton, Ohio, US
I always find it funny that the TRAVEL channel will have a disclaimer about "INDIGENOUS NUDITY", meaning they will show nipples and blurred crotch of any non whites from non industrialized cultures.
As I was watching one program I wondered what would happen if one of the women studying the culture decided to strip and really live the culture if the travel channel would show her nipples.. ??
they did a show on the Canne film festival and didnt show ONE topless woman on the beach.. I have been there and there were more nipples than I could count.. But they thought nothing of showing Indian and African nipples..
Wouldnt the nipples on the beach at Cannes be INDIGENOUS...???
Main Entry: in·dig·e·nous
Pronunciation: in-'di-j&-n&s
Function: adjective
1 : having originated in and being produced, growing, living, or occurring naturally in a particular region or environment
2 : INNATE, INBORN
synonym see NATIVE
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CantikFotos
Posts: 256
Carlos Arturo Velarde wrote:
I've gone to Puerto Peñasco and Puerto Vallarta and shot nudes in the beach. The cops came by, I gave them a $100 bill and they gave me a password in case other officers came by and then he went on his way. Crooked cops in Mexico?!?!?! I'm shocked. Simply shocked. ;^)
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Glenn Worton
Posts: 1444
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
samir safwat wrote:
The Female nipple is our first mandala and visual mantra.. it provides us with all the nourishment we need as infants.. we become addicted to it .. and later we are deprived of its image... go figure!!!!
the female nipple provides nourishment... the male nipple has no such function as far as i know...
that would be the basic difference.. but why one is taboo and the other is not is a mystery
Maybe....
the taboo has to do ith that initial experience we all have with the nipple if we are breast fed.
just my 2 cents worth
peace care & trust
samir All the plumbing is there - men just lack the hormones to make it work -
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Stephen Melvin
Posts: 16334
Kansas City, Missouri, US
UIPHOTOS wrote:
they did a show on the Canne film festival and didnt show ONE topless woman on the beach.. I have been there and there were more nipples than I could count.. At what point did you stop?
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UIPHOTOS
Posts: 3591
Dayton, Ohio, US
Glenn Worton wrote:
All the plumbing is there - men just lack the hormones to make it work - Half a chromosome is the only thing seperating us from all having pms and lactating..
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