Vidmandave wrote:
Does this scream GWC to you?

It does to me and I hate them. (wrinked white sheets)

Am I alone in this feeling?

Am I being a photo snob?

I believe we were calling them wronkled up bedsheets.

It doesn't always scream GWC. Because if you are creative enough, you can work it into a concept that's hot. Trust me on this one.

gdsandy wrote:
Wronkled (sic).

We all start somewhere and maybe once they understand DoF and moving the model away from the background or even the "steam" bitton on the iron they will improve.  We are all improving all of the time.  Few people are able to entirely visualise the outcome of each shutter release.  That is why they have stylists and assistants.

Wronkled sheets screams beginner with nobody helping rather than GWC.

What he said. I even see quality commercial backgrounds being used badly to get cheap-looking results. It's more about artistic creativity, mastery of technique and understanding the capabilities and limitations of the equipment and how to take advantage of them than about the intrinsic quality of "accessories". We've all seen beautiful work with improvised materials and crap done with the best equipment.

Daniela V wrote:
If you're creative enough so that it doesn't appear as a white crinkled bedsheet, or it's worked into the shot, then no, you shouldn't be called a GWC just because you used that.

Right on... but I think bedsheets are alittle too small... I use white muslin... and of course... TAKE THE WRINKLES OUT... check the avatar...

David Scott wrote:
I used to use them and honestly still use them on rare occasions.  Easy to edit and make look nice, easy to bump up exposure for hi-key work, easy to work with.. easy to extract a model and put her in another scene for a photoshop.       But to leave them as is... eh... here is one... from october 2005 with my P&S camera!

It looks like it started out ironed and you have draped it 

some I see look like they have been in a ball for weeks then tacked to the wall flat and uninteresting. Light spill for the main highlights the wrinkles and and usually there is a shadow distracting from instead of adding to the image.  because the model is 7 to 10 inches away from it.

Select Models wrote:

Right on... but I think bedsheets are alittle too small... I use white muslin... and of course... TAKE THE WRINKLES OUT... check the avatar...

And that's a very clean and hot look. That's the RIGHT way to do it.

David Scott wrote:

I know you didn't ask for an opinion, but since you put your work out here regarding this subject...

I don't like this shot. What is the point of laying her on that sheet? Why not throw her onto seamless if you want a white background? Or a bed if you want that glamour look?

To me, she's laying on a floot with a crinkled bed sheet.

Vidmandave wrote:

It looks like it started out ironed and you have draped it 

some I see look like they have been in a ball for weeks then tacked to the wall flat and uninteresting. Light spill for the main highlights the wrinkles and and usually there is a shadow distracting from instead of adding to the image.  because the model is 7 to 10 inches away from it.

Yeah I think that's what I did.. I know it was draped.. actually two sheets.  I didnt have much room to work with and had too much in the background that was disctracting and would have been hard for me (at the time) to edit out.  I was just starting photography seriously around this time so I was still learning a lot about lighting and such.  Ah, good times lol

Daniela V wrote:
I know you didn't ask for an opinion, but since you put your work out here regarding this subject...

I don't like this shot. What is the point of laying her on that sheet? Why not throw her onto seamless if you want a white background? Or a bed if you want that glamour look?

To me, she's laying on a floot with a crinkled bed sheet.

Thanks for the opinion I didn't ask for.     It's a picture of using wronkled sheets back when I was first starting out.  As in the post I just did, I was still learning about stuff.   I don't use sheets too much anymore, I actually don't even remember the last time I used one as a backdrop.  I did use one so I could bounce some light off it for my flash, though    

Probably looks like she is laying on a sheet because she is.    But I doubt you'd have been able to tell if it was a bedsheet specifically or if it is something else. What's the point?  I could ask the same about many pictures of the point of this or that as opposed to soemthing else.   Why not seamless? Simple: I didn't have it. 

Vidmandave wrote:
Does this scream GWC to you?

Great pictures scream.  They will not be ignored.  There are many ways to make great images.
Bad pictures mumble, part of the background noise of digestion.  There are many, many ways to make bad pictures.
Contemplating the common elements of great images may be a better use of time than considering the infinite possibilities for failure.

Glen Berry wrote:
It's not what your gear is, but what you do with it that matters most.

Bingo!
You can have all the expensive equipment in the world and still find B&H doesnt sell Creativity and a good eye

SickShooter wrote:
Wronkled bedsheets=yuck!

Really? The one you're laying on, in this image from your own portfolio, doesn't look so bad... 



Just kidding a little...   

take care,
Glen

David Scott wrote:

Thanks for the opinion I didn't ask for.     It's a picture of using wronkled sheets back when I was first starting out.  As in the post I just did, I was still learning about stuff.   I don't use sheets too much anymore, I actually don't even remember the last time I used one as a backdrop.  I did use one so I could bounce some light off it for my flash, though    

Probably looks like she is laying on a sheet because she is.    But I doubt you'd have been able to tell if it was a bedsheet specifically or if it is something else. What's the point?  I could ask the same about many pictures of the point of this or that as opposed to soemthing else.   Why not seamless? Simple: I didn't have it. 

I think the lesson to be learned here is that even if you're starting out, don't use crinkled bed sheets. 1. they have GWC written all over them and 2. you're just starting out, so you don't know how to use them yet.

Bedsheets are not an alternative to seamless if you're just going to throw them there, is my point. If you can be creative, fine, if not...go outside...shoot location- studio shots get dull after awhile anyway.

Jphoto wrote:
Please forgive me father, for I have wronkled.

This is different. You're USING it in the image.

That's the point everyone is trying to make. If you can use it fine. If you hang it up and use it as a backdrop and it's CLEARLY a bed sheet, it's hideous.

ps- cute image- but what's with the granny panties?

Daniela V wrote:
ps- cute image- but what's with the granny panties?

Yeah them drawers are CLEARLY plus sized period panties.

Daniela V wrote:
I think the lesson to be learned here is that even if you're starting out, don't use crinkled bed sheets. 1. they have GWC written all over them and 2. you're just starting out, so you don't know how to use them yet.

Bedsheets are not an alternative to seamless if you're just going to throw them there, is my point. If you can be creative, fine, if not...go outside...shoot location- studio shots get dull after awhile anyway.

Thanks for sharing.