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jac3950
Posts: 1179
Freedom, New Hampshire, US
James Porschen wrote:
Why are there so many photographers on this sight that would rather see skin than create a unique vision. Are most of the photographers here just horny men rather than visionaries? Ah, the idealism! It took the OP only 10 days of membership here to view and assess every portfolio before reaching his conclusion.
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HUmby_G
Posts: 197
Los Angeles, California, US
Hello all,
Maybe it's being lusty or horny, the number one thing that drives some photographers to create and capture what they do. The art that they make. My LOVE for women, drives me to want to capture her the best way I can, so I can share with the world the beauty I see.
Humberto ;o)
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Gary Blanchette
Posts: 5137
Irvine, California, US
Yes folks, it takes all kinds to make the world go 'round. And there's no doubt you will find all walks of life here on Model Mayhem... 
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Rik Austin
Posts: 12165
Austin, Texas, US
Maybe we need to start banning all art not certified by the NRP. Salvador Dali and a few thousand others are obviously nothing but perverts. Well maybe Salvador...
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Ceehawk Multimedia
Posts: 319
Clarksville, Tennessee, US
James Porschen wrote:
Why are there so many photographers on this sight that would rather see skin than create a unique vision. Are most of the photographers here just horny men rather than visionaries? Artist in general have always been intrigued by the nude human form, especially the female nude form. I've always said that when God created woman he was showing off.
I think it is good to learn to see the human form outside of the context of just sex. Now I agree that there are many out there who can't do that and perhaps they are out there doing nudes just to feed their libido, but i don't think photographers with this mindset create the best work.
I think to be a good photographer of the nude form you have to be able to stand outside of yourself and your humaness...If you are excitied or aroused bya particular model or photo idea, the key is to be able to stand outside your hormones being totally objective so you can figure out what exactly triggers the arousal so you can properly capture the image. basically you have to be able to tell your body and natural sex drive to "shut up, I'm working here." Life is so much richer when your not a slave to your flesh.
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Ex Voto Studio
Posts: 4985
Columbia, Maryland, US
James Porschen wrote:
Why are there so many photographers on this sight that would rather see skin than create a unique vision. Are most of the photographers here just horny men rather than visionaries? Well I really do enjoy being a photographer and would not classify myself as just shooting one or the other. But here is something to think about. Isn't it an artists lust mixed with his or her talents that gives that person a unique vision? I respect what you are saying because there are def, some GWC's with not vision posting on here... but we were all GWC's at some point in our lives, right? I do believe that if you date fashion and nude photography back to the invention of the camera you will see that they have always gone hand and hand....
-troy
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Ex Voto Studio
Posts: 4985
Columbia, Maryland, US
jac3950 wrote:
Ah, the idealism! It took the OP only 10 days of membership here to view and assess every portfolio before reaching his conclusion. LMAO.....
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LeDeux Art
Posts: 50123
San Ramon, California, US
Project Photography wrote:
Well I really do enjoy being a photographer and would not classify myself as just shooting one or the other. But here is something to think about. Isn't it an artists lust mixed with his or her talents that gives that person a unique vision? I respect what you are saying because there are def, some GWC's with not vision posting on here... but we were all GWC's at some point in our lives, right? I do believe that if you date fashion and nude photography back to the invention of the camera you will see that they have always gone hand and hand....
-troy you have a good point and for me I am not offended by the naked image at all, but it is the photographer that ruins these images most of the time as they are lusting and it shows in the image, how can you reach into the soul of the sitter and capture somthing special when all your thinken is look at those tits ?
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Tied And Taped
Posts: 4735
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US
Hmm...the OP is on to me, too!
Guess Tikeya won't talk to me anymore. Not that she got to talk too much when she shot with me, what with that tape over her mouth...
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D-O-N-S-I-R
Posts: 1121
Norwalk, California, US
Am I a photographer/artist or am I a horny guy-with-camera (GWC)? That is the question. Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outraged "peers" or to take arms against a sea of troubles...
Please forgive my bombastic, butchered, paraphrased Shakespeare, but I think answering a question with a question is best here. For myself, I am a horny guy who is trying to take the flesh I see and lust for and create an artistic vision with it. At my most optimistic I'd like to believe that every guy, or girl, who picks up a camera has the intention of creating art. Sure taking nudie pictures isn't going to save the world, but it'll sure make my time on this planet more pleasant.
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Prairie Town Production
Posts: 100
Topeka, Kansas, US
It is OK to be male, it is OK to be female, and it is OK to be a horny person with a camera (HPC?), but true photography must contain style, grace, skill, passion, emotion, and foresight. Lacking any of the desired qualities, just plan on dumb luck.
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Rik Austin
Posts: 12165
Austin, Texas, US
Ceehawk Multimedia wrote:
Artist in general have always been intrigued by the nude human form, especially the female nude form. I've always said that when God created woman he was showing off.
I think it is good to learn to see the human form outside of the context of just sex. Now I agree that there are many out there who can't do that and perhaps they are out there doing nudes just to feed their libido, but i don't think photographers with this mindset create the best work.
I think to be a good photographer of the nude form you have to be able to stand outside of yourself and your humaness...If you are excitied or aroused bya particular model or photo idea, the key is to be able to stand outside your hormones being totally objective so you can figure out what exactly triggers the arousal so you can properly capture the image. basically you have to be able to tell your body and natural sex drive to "shut up, I'm working here." Life is so much richer when your not a slave to your flesh. Couldn't have said it better myself. Oh, I didn't. Excellent answer.
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Howard Garcia
Posts: 2210
New York, New York, US
Shyly wrote:
Why can't someone be both?
And for the record, we do have horny women who are also visionaries with their cameras in residence.  Did I ever mention to you that I love you?
Great answer!
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Viva Van Story
Posts: 615
Long Branch, New Jersey, US
Don Sir wrote:
Am I a photographer/artist or am I a horny guy-with-camera (GWC)? That is the question. Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outraged "peers" or to take arms against a sea of troubles...
Please forgive my bombastic, butchered, paraphrased Shakespeare, but I think answering a question with a question is best here. For myself, I am a horny guy who is trying to take the flesh I see and lust for and create an artistic vision with it. At my most optimistic I'd like to believe that every guy, or girl, who picks up a camera has the intention of creating art. Sure taking nudie pictures isn't going to save the world, but it'll sure make my time on this planet more pleasant. I agree... what else is there... bills, work, holidays.. yuck! Love your work Don Sir.. please continue being horny.. he he
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NYPHOTOGRAPHICS
Posts: 1466
FRESH MEADOWS, New York, US
Horny! I am making a rule as long as I see you naked we can shoot all the visionary stuff they like. jac3950 wrote:
Ah, the idealism! It took the OP only 10 days of membership here to view and assess every portfolio before reaching his conclusion. its not his fault hes slow!
Stephen Eastwood
http://www.PhotographersPortfolio.com
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T Edward Glazar
Posts: 300
Sunnyside, Georgia, US
Shyly wrote:
Why can't someone be both?
And for the record, we do have horny women who are also visionaries with their cameras in residence. Yeah, I'm horny all the time, love naked people, but I do feel I have a vision.
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Sanjay N Patel
Posts: 134
Austin, Texas, US
James Porschen wrote:
Why are there so many photographers on this sight that would rather see skin than create a unique vision. Are most of the photographers here just horny men rather than visionaries?
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Ian Maddela
Posts: 113
San Diego, California, US
Why are there so many photographers on this site that would rather bitch and moan about what other photographers are doing than doing something constructive? Are most of the photographers here so lame that they have nothing better to do other than look through other people's portfolios and complain?
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Joe Alcantar
Posts: 438
Beaumont, California, US
Ian Maddela wrote:
Why are there so many photographers on this site that would rather bitch and moan about what other photographers are doing than doing something constructive? Are most of the photographers here so lame that they have nothing better to do other than look through other people's portfolios and complain? I second that. Well said Ian
"Just shut up and shoot" is normally my version.
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Real people
Posts: 148
Chicago, Illinois, US
James Porschen wrote:
Why are there so many photographers on this sight that would rather see skin than create a unique vision. Are most of the photographers here just horny men rather than visionaries? Have you read the post on how to get nipples hard? Some great advice from both photographers and models.
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Joi Carey
Posts: 551
Phoenix, Arizona, US
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Jose Luis
Posts: 2890
Dallas, Texas, US
James Porschen wrote:
Why are there so many photographers on this sight that would rather see skin than create a unique vision. Are most of the photographers here just horny men rather than visionaries? You know what's sad- you are saying that like the two are mutually exclusive.
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dgold
Posts: 10302
Pawtucket, Rhode Island, US
lightsandshadow wrote:
I lust after creative visions. ...count me in.
Picasso..."Taste is the enemy of art."
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groupw
Posts: 521
Maricopa, Arizona, US
Dear Santa,
Please send the OP Andrew Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People".
Thank you,
Nothing wrong with having an opinion, but this was the first thing to post?
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Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
Shanna wrote:
yeah the world of modeling is kinda like the world of hmmm idk haha. but yeah thats freaking gross. i had a photographer yesterday wanting to work with me and then he started trying to talk me into nudes. and i said no dude. he asked why and i said im not comfortable with it duh, i look great, but i dont have to prove that by showing my bits and peices to a bunch of nasty perverted strangers.
and here is the weird part. he tried to convince me to do them by showing me nudes of himself, thinking that would make me more comfortable. i was just like um no im still not taking my cloths off lol. and idk i havnt talked to him since. Not weird, more like sick and perverted.
If I ever showed a model a nude of myself, I can expect one of two reactions - screams of terror or projectile vomiting.
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TBJ Imaging
Posts: 2416
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, US
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jZERO
Posts: 57
Miami, Florida, US
Shanna wrote:
yeah the world of modeling is kinda like the world of hmmm idk haha. but yeah thats freaking gross. i had a photographer yesterday wanting to work with me and then he started trying to talk me into nudes. and i said no dude. he asked why and i said im not comfortable with it duh, i look great, but i dont have to prove that by showing my bits and peices to a bunch of nasty perverted strangers.
and here is the weird part. he tried to convince me to do them by showing me nudes of himself, thinking that would make me more comfortable. i was just like um no im still not taking my cloths off lol. and idk i havnt talked to him since. What the old "here's me naked" didn't make your clothes just fly off your skin. That's wierd. It always works for me. "Hey, this situation isnt awkward enough yet by me begging you to take off your clothes over and over. Here's pics of me and my pecker to make it just that much more uncomfortable. I know this will definately work"
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Benedict
Posts: 99
Norwich, England, United Kingdom
Skin is only required if the shot requires it.
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La Seine by the Hudson
Posts: 8587
New York, New York, US
Look.
(Photographers, more than almost any other sort of artist, reveal ALL in their work.)
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j-shooter
Posts: 1912
San Francisco, California, US
Marko Cecic-Karuzic wrote:
Look.
(Photographers, more than almost any other sort of artist, reveal ALL in their work.) how so? or maybe that's a new thread.....
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Doug Jantz
Posts: 4025
Tulsa, Oklahoma, US
James Porschen wrote:
Why are there so many photographers on this sight that would rather see skin than create a unique vision. Are most of the photographers here just horny men rather than visionaries? We are all unashamed voyeurs. 
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TheOneEyedShooter
Posts: 119
Sonoita, Arizona, US
I....am a horny visionary.....
and an unrepentant...unabashed...dedicated..."practicing"....voyeur....
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Jason McKendricks
Posts: 6025
Chico, California, US
groupw wrote:
Dear Santa,
Please send the OP Andrew Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People".
Thank you,
Nothing wrong with having an opinion, but this was the first thing to post? First and only post. How does that guy handle living in a world full of people?
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Uber Dami
Posts: 5551
New Haven, Connecticut, US
id rather create something extremely artistic and new then just show skin, it bores me, but so few photogs are willing to take the time an effort to build real scenes and make something amazing.
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Viper Studios
Posts: 1196
Little Rock, Arkansas, US
O.K. you got me....I am the horniest, most perverted photographer you are ever going to meet.
But you know what, I don't have to ask women to take their clothes off.
Once they find out that I am not "all hung up" about it, have done it before, and have demonstrated some talent in the pursuit, THEY contact me and ME to shoot them in the horniest most perverted ways.
Your hypothesis, while correctly assuming, that some or all men are horny, ignores that each of the shots you have seen as evidence of said horniness, requires the participation of a female model.
What? You think each and every perverted, horny, sexy, naked, nude, tits and ass shot was conceived by a man and only perpetrated on the model as the result of the heretofore mentioned perv photographer putting pressure on the model?
Honey, let me tell you something. Some women don't buy into the whole "nudity is demeaning" to women schtick.
Some women like to get naked and do naughty things to themselves. They like to pose naked to show what they got. They do it to irritate girls like you.
I see it's working.
Mark
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Taboo Motel
Posts: 195
Kansas City, Missouri, US
Shyly wrote:
Why can't someone be both?
And for the record, we do have horny women who are also visionaries with their cameras in residence. You are so wise for one sooo young...
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Jason McKendricks
Posts: 6025
Chico, California, US
Gunfitr wrote:
Once they find out that I am not "all hung up" about it, have done it before, and have demonstrated some talent in the pursuit, THEY contact me and ME to shoot them in the horniest most perverted ways. I have to agree. I've posted ads on CraigsList looking for women to do some casual or swimsuit and the ones who respond send in implieds and nudes!
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Michael Anthony
Posts: 2290
Glendale, California, US
yah, im horny, although not much of a visionary... but what im curious about now, is after all this banter about the original question, where is the OP? he just kinda hit and ran... =P
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Glamour Boulevard
Posts: 8628
Sacramento, California, US
Shyly wrote:
And for the record, we do have horny women who are also visionaries with their cameras in residence. How did I know this was gonna come from you
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