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2 months and still no CD from TFCD
was promised after 2 weeks and now that has turned into 2 months should I report him to other models.....for his unprofessionalism Oct 23 06 12:39 pm Link I had the same thing happen to me, I just got a little bitchy and I apparently have a cd in the mail as we speak because of it. we'll see if I actually get it though. Give him some chances before you start posting negative things about him. If you have already and still nothing, then I would go ahead, but that's just me. Oct 23 06 12:41 pm Link Maybe you should talk to the photographer and remind him. Maybe he has other things to do. Maybe he lost your phone number. Maybe he depressed and coudl use a little love to motivate him. Based on how much work he may or may not put into it, it might take awhile or him to get finished with editing your pictures. Contact him privately and ask not for the pictures, but for a status on them. See where he says he is on them. Ask him to give you a delivery date and hold him to it. Oct 23 06 12:44 pm Link One of the best suggestions I've heard for this subject is to go to his MM page (hopefully he has one) and leave a tag saying you're still waiting for your images. It's not rude, it's not against any rules, it gets the message out to other models that this guy/girl screwed you over, and the photographer will get the message. You're probably not going to get them though, as much as I hate to be the bearer of bad news. I never got the shots back from my first shoot. Just make sure that you check references in the future. Oct 23 06 12:45 pm Link Don't feel bad the same thing happened to me. If all you have is a verbal agreement then it's no guarantee you will get them. I must say if you don't open your mouth the same thing will happen to other girls...Most of all if you haven't recieved by now you may want to consider it a loss. 2 months is a long time to be waiting for images. I simply have photographers give me a copy of images before leaving shoot this way if they decide not to send edited images at least I have my work. Good Luck! Oct 23 06 12:45 pm Link Sometimes things happen. Maybe the images don't look good, maybe he's very slow. Maybe he has no intention of giving you the images at all. If he shoots lots of models and has them on his profile I bet he does provide the images at some point. I wouldn't start any threads that mention him by name. Hopefully he will send you the images or at least explain why he won't. Oct 23 06 12:47 pm Link I had this happen to me recently (I'm the photographer). CD got sat on the end table to go out in mail, got covered up by something, never made it. Found it over a month later (after the model emailed me nicely asking WTF was up with her pix), put it in the mail, and got it BACK from the post office because their adhesive came loose and they can't deliver opened mail, evidently. Repackaged, stapled the hell out of the padded envelope, sent back out. Took her way too long to get her pix, entirely my fault. Apologized profusely. Luckily, she loved the pix and is using one of them as her avi here (she's a new member), as well as having them all over her Myspace page. Oct 23 06 12:53 pm Link It just goes with the territory. I shot with a couple photogs almost six months ago and never got promised CDs for TFP shoots. I think some people just figure that since the model doesn't have any equipment costs, it's not necessary to complete the transaction. Other times the images don't turn out the way the photog wanted and they may not want to have the images made public by the model. Personally, I think if a photog has agreed to do TFP/TFCD they should fulfill their side of the bargain. - But not much you can do when they don't besides write it off and move on. It does not pay to be the one who complains publicly about it. Oct 23 06 12:57 pm Link Call the photog. I did two sessions with a beautiful model and she emailed me she never saw some pictures, after a while of emailing back and forth I finally got the idea it was the second session she was missing. But I sent them, burnt two CD's one for me and one for her and sent them! She said she still didn't have them, so I burnt another set and sent them to her. Then while looking for another CD ran across the original set I did for us and that shows I never sent them in the first place as she said. Well with four sessions going on and editing for modeling agencies which takes first place, I missed it. It happens, but I do insist people get their pictures asap. It's just good keep your word. So call and remind him or her. Oct 23 06 01:05 pm Link Two weeks is a fast turn around time. Alot of people I work with take 2 or 3 months especially for tfcd shoots. Don't sweat it, they have a life besides your pictures and they'll get them to you eventually if they are worth using. Oct 23 06 01:07 pm Link Kimberly R Walker wrote: How many photos were shot by your photographer? Oct 23 06 01:07 pm Link Yeah I hear ya..I had a TFCD and it was promised in a week. I still haven't received my all my images and the shoot was on Fathers Day! Oct 23 06 01:10 pm Link Kimberly R Walker wrote: ABSOLUTELY! Look, I shoot film, I shoot a lot. I have a cd of all the final work to my models in less than two weeks, usually one week. Don't even get me started on those that shoot digital and can upload the images whenever they feel the need too. It is absolutely rediculous to take that long to give a model their work. Period. If you're too busy to complete the work you started don't do the work to begin with. Oct 23 06 05:02 pm Link on the other hand.. I have a model I last shot with almost a year ago, who just called me yesterday... Said she hadnt recieved the CD from our last shoot. I checked my files.. I mailed it 1 week after the shoot. I havent heard from her in almost a year. All of a sudden... out of no-where.. she called to bitch about not getting it.. I even repeated the address I mailed it to her on the phone.. she dosent live there anymore.. but thinks that she would still have recieved it if i "had" sent it. I couldnt get her to give me a new address, but today I mailed out a second CD of the images to her... WTF.. a year later.. I was browsing around on Myspace.. lo and behold.. I find her page.. and the pictures from the shoot are there.. Too bad I already mailed the second CD... DAmn... Oct 23 06 06:58 pm Link I always get antsy about getting the pics, just because I am excited to see them! But I think everyone has to play the wait game  I would start getting concerned after 3 months though... *Sandra Oct 23 06 07:02 pm Link Stuff like this wouldn't happen if both sides had a written agreement. It's designed to you and the model scenarios like this Oct 23 06 08:13 pm Link Kimberly R Walker wrote: Same thing happened to me but add to it that the photog showed other unprofessional behavior. At this point, I want the photos just to know that he actually took photos. (he conveniently forgot to load his camera with film at one point.) Oct 26 06 02:50 am Link Caroline A Martin wrote: It happens. Oct 26 06 02:56 am Link Susi wrote: i see your "if"... Oct 26 06 03:00 am Link Susi wrote: It's so nice to have a model say that! I think a lot of models forget that. Oct 26 06 03:17 am Link That is totally unacceptable. Write him and ask him when you will expect the CD....if he can't reply for some unGODLY REASON, send him an invoice thru the mail for your time. Fair is fair. A deal IS a damn deal. This is why I NO LONGER TFPCD with unprofessionals. THEY surely would bad mouth YOU publicly if YOU did this. Enough already with bad business practices. Kimberly R Walker wrote: Oct 26 06 03:21 am Link urheartsdesire2 wrote: No responsible professional photographer would ever let un-edited, un-proofed images leave his studio, and if he did, they wouldn't be worth having. A real professional never lets his work go out without having viewed, selected the best photos and then and re-touched them- they make or break his reputation. Oct 26 06 03:21 am Link Written agreements ...who will enforce them? Small claims? Thank GOD I know attorneys...when you need one you love them... Moore Photo Graphix wrote: Oct 26 06 03:22 am Link Rossi Photography wrote: That is all very true, but sometimes photographers forget something. Oct 26 06 03:24 am Link Avicdar wrote: Well, yeah... all very true. Oct 26 06 03:28 am Link Moore Photo Graphix wrote: Any agreement is only as good as the parties making them. I understand where Oct 26 06 03:33 am Link Moore Photo Graphix wrote: Any agreement is only as good as the parties making them. I understand where Oct 26 06 03:33 am Link I had this happen too recently. :-( (I am considering outing the person on MM.) Oct 26 06 03:35 am Link My friend did a shoot with lithium picnic for SG she didn't get the images for 3 months! and he kept posting newer images of apnea I dunno why my friend is still a SG Oct 26 06 03:42 am Link Models should be grateful for photographers that still know their art, gives a damn about the final product, and still takes time and patience to edit the final print. My average TFCD takes about 1 month; some drags on to even 6 months. The longer the time it takes me to get the final product, the happier I'm with the shoot. Short time = crap. Verdict: if the photographer is taking time to work on your prints, don't rush him. He/She is doing what other graphic designers are doing for $50/hr. p.s cookies are always a good incentives!  Oct 26 06 03:49 am Link Out him on your profile , if he/she can't keep their word they should be held to the fire for taking advantage of someones time and effort. Oct 26 06 06:54 am Link Ha good luck RC PHOTO did the same thing to me we shot almost 3/4 months ago and nothing! I've wrote him messages, wrote him on yahoo, MM everything and when I see him go into the shout room I write and then he vanishes! How matured learn what TFCD means buddy. I start my posting tmrw on his page. I'm gettin sick of that BS. But best thing to do is if you've reminded him called did everything u could then call um out. Trust I know it sucks. But good luck Oct 26 06 07:06 am Link Kimberly R Walker wrote: I know how you feel Kim. I've been waiting for eight months with one photog and over a year from another to get my images back. I just hpe I can still use them. Oct 26 06 07:09 am Link I have a better solution. I give the cd or cd's at the end of the shoot. If she'd like a copy of edited photos I either give them within two weeks or mail them. NO PROBLEM! While she is waiting for the edited cd she has an original to look at. I just let her know that some photos will be edited and since I shoot continuously some will be garbage. Still no problem. Oct 26 06 07:09 am Link id get straight to the point with him!!!! i currently have the same thing happening to me and its now been just over 3 month! hes worked with 3 of my mates since then and they all have theirs... first he said his computer got stolen, then he was in hospital now hes broke his arm! im still waitin... keeps sayn its in the post but thats been 2 weeks now! if it doesnt show within a month im getting a solicitors letter sent out, cos i have a signed release form sayn i own copyright haha! but be tough, modeling isnt a nicey nicey game, u gotta have thick layers to get what you want, yes most photographers are lovely n wouldnt put a foot wrong, but others u have to make sure u get what u want! good luck x Oct 26 06 07:11 am Link By the way I had a shoot with a model 4 days ago and sent her home with 6 cd's. She loved the photos. I must have edited 25 of them before she even left. Even her boyfriend/escort loved them. IF YOU PROMISED THEM CD'S THEN GIVE THEM CD'S. Oct 26 06 07:15 am Link Cherie Bell wrote: Shit happens, we get busy, we get behind... but eight months to a year! That's just wrong! Oct 26 06 07:20 am Link Ruben Grolet wrote: Bravo, I always have and always will either burn the cds on site (Thx to new laptop) or with in a few days, Im doing a rather large photo project, but still gettin em out to the models Oct 26 06 07:21 am Link Ruben Grolet wrote: I will never hand over a disc of the unedited/unretouched images right after the shoot. Nope. But, we all have our own gig, I guess. Oct 26 06 07:23 am Link And Bravo to you Mac. IT IS ABOUT STANDING BY OUR WORD. It is about being professional. It is about your reputation. Rossi I respect your choice and do not disagree with you. All I say is that when a photographer promises cd's or photos GIVE THEM WHAT YOU PROMISED, WHEN YOU PROMISED!!! Edited, non-edited, finished, whatever you promise, keep it. It takes hours, days, weeks, to truly edit photos when you have many to go over and editing is time consuming. What I think the girls are talking about are the jerks who themselves have no intention of sending photos, keeping their word. I hear it all the time. You do great workRossi, so if you are upfront with your models and it seems that you are waiting a few weeks or so should not be a problem. As for giving unfinished, unedited photos I go over that in depth. I review the photos on my computer with the models. Sometimes we laugh because since I continuously shoot we get some funny photos or if she is moving and I am continuously shooting a photo may get blurred. One out of 600 big deal. Oct 26 06 07:49 am Link |
