Forums > General Industry > Do nude shots scare off other models?

Photographer

Greg Christensen

Posts: 361

Orange, California, US

I know that there is probably a thread on this somewhere, but I couldn't find it and I'm looking for some advise and opinions.
  My portfolio is currently pretty all-american and I don't mind that all and those are the type of girls that I like shooting the most. But I recently did my first figure study shoot. I like some of the results, I think they are classy, but I'm wondering if putting a figure-study type nude on my site will scare off models from working with me. I certainly would never ask anybody to take their clothes off unless doing nudes was specifically discussed and agreed to before the shoot. I would like to do more figure studies, but I don't want to be known as a nude specialist. My reputation is very important to me and I since I'm just getting start doing fashion photography (I shoot stock work most of the time and I'm represented by Getty Images) I want to attract people to shoot with me, not scare people away. What do you think?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Greg

Oct 03 06 11:36 am Link

Photographer

TBJ Imaging

Posts: 2416

Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, US

I was thinking of taking the nudes off my site so I am interested in hearing what models have to say also. Good post!

Oct 03 06 11:40 am Link

Photographer

Halcyon 7174 NYC

Posts: 20109

New York, New York, US

Make a second web site. I don't think many people on MM care if you have a few nudes in your portfolio, but your personal web site should reflect what you want to shoot most.

Oct 03 06 11:41 am Link

Photographer

YeagerVision

Posts: 175

Los Angeles, California, US

Do you really want to work with someone who is so easily scared?

Oct 03 06 11:42 am Link

Model

MelissaLynnette LaDiva

Posts: 50816

Leawood, Kansas, US

I can't speak for the rest of us, but they don't scare me off if you have other well done images on your page.  And I usually read a person's profile, so if you mention that you do other types of photography, then I'm usually fine.  It's the photographers who state in their ports that they only work with models willing to get naked regardless of what the project entails that make me keep it moving.

Oct 03 06 11:43 am Link

Model

Rachel Steele

Posts: 17

Tampa, Florida, US

I rarely come across a photographer that doesn't have nude images. It doesn't bother me. The content is going to be discussed before the shoot so there should be no problem.

Oct 03 06 11:43 am Link

Model

MelissaLynnette LaDiva

Posts: 50816

Leawood, Kansas, US

I love how he asked for models' opinions and the first like 5 posts are from photographers.  smile

Oct 03 06 11:44 am Link

Photographer

Fluffytek

Posts: 558

So far, the nudes on my site have found me models.

If you shoot trash it will put them off, if you shoot art it wont, well excpet for those that are anally retentive about nudity.

Oct 03 06 11:45 am Link

Photographer

Tog

Posts: 55204

Birmingham, Alabama, US

Do nude shots scare off other models?

No.. That's what my bio pic is for.. wink

Oct 03 06 11:46 am Link

Photographer

TBJ Imaging

Posts: 2416

Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, US

YeagerVision wrote:
Do you really want to work with someone who is so easily scared?

I make my living as a photographer so yes....if a lot of clients are being scared off because of nudes I want to know it. If I were just shooting for fun then no....I would not want to shoot with people who were scared.....but since I want to be paid.....I want my clients to be comfortable and will do what I need to to make them feel that way

Oct 03 06 11:46 am Link

Photographer

Frank McAdam

Posts: 2222

New York, New York, US

I think the determining factor is the type of nude photo shown to models.  The greater part of my work is fine art nudes and I've never had any complaints from models I've shown them to, nor have any models run out the door in fear after having seen them.  Figure studies are legitimate and demonstrate your versatility.  I would consider a model who freaked after having looked at a true figure study to be immature or else overly conservative.  In either case, I'd probably be better off not working with her on any type of photos.  I think the only time most models would have second thoughts is if the photos shown were T&A or porn (and I'm not suggesting your work is that type), in which case she might very well have legitimate concerns as to the photographer's intentions.

Oct 03 06 11:50 am Link

Photographer

YeagerVision

Posts: 175

Los Angeles, California, US

Melissa Lynnette wrote:
I love how he asked for models' opinions and the first like 5 posts are from photographers.  smile

He didn't ask models, he asked about models.  You're off topic....than again, so am I.

Oct 03 06 12:11 pm Link

Photographer

YeagerVision

Posts: 175

Los Angeles, California, US

I make my living as a photographer so yes....if a lot of clients are being scared off because of nudes I want to know it. If I were just shooting for fun then no....I would not want to shoot with people who were scared.....but since I want to be paid.....I want my clients to be comfortable and will do what I need to to make them feel that way

Fair enough.

Oct 03 06 12:12 pm Link

Photographer

Artistic Vision

Posts: 2207

Billings, Montana, US

Melissa Lynnette wrote:
I love how he asked for models' opinions and the first like 5 posts are from photographers.  smile

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.


He didn't ask any MODEL feedbacks, he's asking everyones general opinion on it.smile

Oct 03 06 12:16 pm Link

Photographer

RED Photographic

Posts: 1458

I don't give a damn.

But then I'm in the UK, where people don't worrry about these things, and you are in the land of the free, where they do.

Oct 03 06 12:18 pm Link

Photographer

TBJ Imaging

Posts: 2416

Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, US

RED Photographic wrote:
I don't give a damn.

But then I'm in the UK, where people don't worrry about these things, and you are in the land of the free, where they do.

I love the people who don't give a damn but still feel the need to comment. I guess you give a damn a little smile

Oct 03 06 12:21 pm Link

Photographer

American Glamour

Posts: 38813

Detroit, Michigan, US

Melissa Lynnette wrote:
I love how he asked for models' opinions and the first like 5 posts are from photographers.  smile

Why are you surprised?

Oct 03 06 12:24 pm Link

Model

o0ashleynicole0o

Posts: 20

Orlando, Florida, US

It doesn't bother me any. What bothers me is when there is pretty much nothing but nudes and they aren't tastefully done. But I think it shows the variety of your work and if you put something on your page saying what you do there shouldn't be a prolbem.

Oct 03 06 12:24 pm Link

Photographer

stan wigmore photograph

Posts: 2397

Long Beach, California, US

The answer is yes,and you should put nudes in your portfolio for just that reason.Just as you should not hide that you do nudes.You don't want to work with anyone who is that scared or paranoid about working with a photographer who does nudes.

Oct 03 06 12:26 pm Link

Photographer

d artiste provocateur

Posts: 457

Madison, Wisconsin, US

I hope so.

wink

Oct 03 06 12:28 pm Link

Photographer

RED Photographic

Posts: 1458

Thomas B wrote:

I love the people who don't give a damn but still feel the need to comment. I guess you give a damn a little smile

Well, the OP did ask what I thought.  And that's what I think.  Actually, you do guess wrong.  I give not a jot.  If I ask someone to do nudes then they can see in my portfolio the sort of nudes I do.  And if someone's going to be worried that I will in some way coerce them into posing nude when I said they wouldn't have to, then they're either not going to turn up, which is annoying, or be uneasy when they do, which will probably result in some rubbish photographs.

It weeds out the weeds.

Oct 03 06 12:29 pm Link

Model

Sweet Emotion 68

Posts: 456

Oldsmar, Florida, US

Greg Christensen wrote:
I know that there is probably a thread on this somewhere, but I couldn't find it and I'm looking for some advise and opinions.
  My portfolio is currently pretty all-american and I don't mind that all and those are the type of girls that I like shooting the most. But I recently did my first figure study shoot. I like some of the results, I think they are classy, but I'm wondering if putting a figure-study type nude on my site will scare off models from working with me. I certainly would never ask anybody to take their clothes off unless doing nudes was specifically discussed and agreed to before the shoot. I would like to do more figure studies, but I don't want to be known as a nude specialist. My reputation is very important to me and I since I'm just getting start doing fashion photography (I shoot stock work most of the time and I'm represented by Getty Images) I want to attract people to shoot with me, not scare possible clients away. What do you think?

Hello...........it all depends on the model. I have browsed many Ports here and seen many models that want to be in Penthouse/Playboy and that ok.........I have also seen some bad nude figure studies and thats not ok..........to me I love doing artistic nudes and I know what to look for if i'm searching for that type of shoot.............just make them classy and artistic and you shouldn't scare anyone away!!............good luck

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Greg

Oct 03 06 12:31 pm Link

Photographer

studio36uk

Posts: 22898

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

YeagerVision wrote:
Do you really want to work with someone who is so easily scared?

Probably not. They can take it or leave it but they aren't going to control my work or what I care to exhibit of it... or not.

I shoot car accidents and occasionally dead bodies but if they think, because I do that kind of work too, that I want them to drive badly or die they are being just a bit foolish in the starting gate.

I don't play dat! Sounds just too much like that "He LOOK raped me" thread.

RED Photographic wrote:
I don't give a damn.

Teeee...Heeee Too right!

Studio36

Oct 03 06 12:43 pm Link

Model

MelissaLynnette LaDiva

Posts: 50816

Leawood, Kansas, US

TooCoolQueeniee wrote:

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.


He didn't ask any MODEL feedbacks, he's asking everyones general opinion on it.smile

My mistake, the second guy wanted to know what models think.  The first guy wasn't as picky.

Oct 03 06 12:47 pm Link

Model

Vera van Munster

Posts: 4095

Belmont, North Carolina, US

Personally,  I don't do nudes but I also see nothing wrong with those that shoot them or pose for them; but for me if I visit a photog's port and it is just plastered with nipple shots, models with their legs wide open and crack shots..then of course I won't contact them or work with them.Have nudes on hand upon request,and state that in your port.I find that's the best way to be available to whoever may have a problem with it or who actually wants it.

Oct 03 06 12:53 pm Link

Photographer

Greg Christensen

Posts: 361

Orange, California, US

opinions from models and photographes are welcomed!

Thanks

Greg

Oct 03 06 12:56 pm Link

Model

Jaketa Rae

Posts: 65

Chesapeake, Virginia, US

nudes dont scare me off, as long as they are tastefully done. personally, i won't shoot them, but i still like to admire good art

Oct 03 06 12:56 pm Link

Photographer

Webspinner Studios

Posts: 6964

Ann Arbor, Michigan, US

posting the kind of photos that I actually make gets me the models I actually want. No false advertising makes for less bad experiences.

Oct 03 06 12:58 pm Link

Photographer

RStephenT

Posts: 3105

Vacaville, California, US

RED Photographic wrote:
I don't give a damn.

But then I'm in the UK, where people don't worrry about these things, and you are in the land of the free, where they do.

Didn't I read somewhere recently where it was reported that the UK has the most surveilence cameras than any other country in the world?

Oct 03 06 01:23 pm Link

Photographer

Halcyon 7174 NYC

Posts: 20109

New York, New York, US

Jaketa Rae wrote:
nudes dont scare me off, as long as they are tastefully done. personally, i won't shoot them, but i still like to admire good art

You're topless in two of your portfolio pictures, including your avatar...

https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pid=1416764
https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pid=1412719

How did I know? I'm Batman.

Oct 03 06 01:29 pm Link

Photographer

studio36uk

Posts: 22898

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

RED Photographic wrote:
I don't give a damn.

But then I'm in the UK, where people don't worrry about these things, and you are in the land of the free, where they do.

RStephenT wrote:
Didn't I read somewhere recently where it was reported that the UK has the most surveilence cameras than any other country in the world?

Sure thats true... but we also have a largely UN-ARMED police too.

Studio36

Oct 03 06 01:32 pm Link

Photographer

j-shooter

Posts: 1912

San Francisco, California, US

yes

Oct 03 06 01:33 pm Link

Model

Model D Nic

Posts: 92

Phoenix, Arizona, US

It all depends on the degree of your work..is it tastefully done? artistic? the caliber of your work is what makes me want to shoot with a photographer....if their images are bad whether they are nude or not, it deters most models. I recently shot my first nude shoot and I thought it turned out amazing, the part that is uncomfortable for models is not seeing the nude shots, it's the process that is takes to create those images is what used to make me nervous...now I see things from a different perspective since I've tried nude.


So, don't knock it til you try it right?

Danielle Henry

Oct 03 06 01:41 pm Link

Photographer

Sy

Posts: 66

Morris Plains, New Jersey, US

I put up all of my work, Fine Art Nudes included on both my MM page and on my personal webiste (which needs an update, I KNOW) because I shoot such a variety of things, I like to give a little taste of it all. I know I shoot Fine Art Nudes tastefully, so I never worry. If a model doesnt like it, they dont have to look at it. It shouldnt scare them, though. Not in my portfolio, atleast. 99% of the time I never ask a model to do any Fine Art Nude work. I let them come to ME if they are comfortable and are looking to shoot that sort of art. The 1% of the time I DO ask anyone for Fine Art Work (if Im looking for an update), they have it listed on their page as something they do, enjoy doing, are comfortable with, and the photos in their portfolio under this catagory are also tastefully done. I enjoy shooting Fine Art Nudes because one of my (double) majors in college was illustration, and sometimes I dont feel like picking up a pencil or charcoal at the moment, Id rather capture it on film, 1-2-3. Then maybe later go back and turn it into another medium. However, its not the ONLY thing I shoot, nor is it the only thing I ENJOY shooting. Im up for lots of stuff...dont be scared, models!! Thats my 2 cents.

Oct 03 06 01:53 pm Link

Model

Manda Mercure

Posts: 506

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

Ched wrote:

You're topless in two of your portfolio pictures, including your avatar...

https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pid=1416764
https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pid=1412719

How did I know? I'm Batman.

exactly when did topless implied become nude?

Oct 03 06 01:59 pm Link

Photographer

joe duerr

Posts: 4227

Santa Ana, California, US

Melissa Lynnette wrote:
I love how he asked for models' opinions and the first like 5 posts are from photographers.  smile

Excuse me... but where exactly did he ask for models opinions? I have read the post several times and it is possible you see something I missed.

Oct 03 06 02:49 pm Link

Model

Erika Mayshawn Harbin

Posts: 18

Atlanta, Georgia, US

for models, if you shoot nude, but do not wish to have them posted, it's easy to just post "nude photos available for serious inquiries"

Oct 03 06 02:51 pm Link

Photographer

joe duerr

Posts: 4227

Santa Ana, California, US

Mandy McKeating wrote:

exactly when did topless implied become nude?

"Topless implied" means that the model is wearing something that covers all the important parts but is posed in such a manner that would IMPLY that she is not.
Those images are topless but covered.

Oct 03 06 02:56 pm Link

Model

Amanda Rose

Posts: 67

Orlando, Florida, US

I think Implied is ok on there and nude but not all of them or on the avi. It does scare some models away from working with that photographer bc they think that they would expect alot out of a shoot! But that's just my opinion!

Oct 03 06 02:58 pm Link

Photographer

Henri3

Posts: 7392

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

I'm in the very conservative midwest...do lots of nudework...and still find no shortage of models who want to work with me, in all genres.
    But I make it very clear in my profile... that nudework is only an option, and certainly not expected of any model.
    If I was courting commercial clients,advertisers.... I sure as hell wouldn't include anything remotely erotic,nude,suggestive... no matter how beautiful. Model agencies in this area are VERY conservative, and they certainly understand the market.

Oct 03 06 03:31 pm Link