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Photographer

Curt at photoworks

Posts: 31812

Riverside, California, US

Susi wrote:
If worse comes to worse we can always take over the "Does Bondage Photography Degrade Women" thread:-)

Hey, I guess we have a strategy then!

Sep 11 06 10:33 am Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

Dude! Some photographer in another thread, just said this....

C_W_PHOTO wrote:
haha I love this!   Anyhow, I'm signing a model exclusively today. A discovery of mine, new to the industry. Two things considered. #1 She is going to be huge, I'm going to be the photog all the way with her. #2 She is naive to the industry and I don't want GWC's getting a hold of her and taking cheesy perv pictures and claiming them to be "art"

As far as signing exclusively with an agency? I agree NEVER. I was always coerced when I modeling to sign an exclusive contract with an agency but when I asked for equal copy write to all my photographs they wouldn’t budge. Therefore I never signed. I give copies of [all] work to all my models and full rights to market/edit/sell their work. That's how I demanded it when I modeled, I pass it on to my models. I think it's only fair.

So, he's like, a signed exclusive Escort\Manager...WTF?!?!?


https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=74411

He later says, she can shoot with other photographers, with permission... But does he escort her?

Sep 11 06 10:48 am Link

Photographer

Curt at photoworks

Posts: 31812

Riverside, California, US

So over on General Mayhem > Should a photographer pay for a friend's travel?

karisaaa wrote:
This so called advertising agent wants to work with me. He is all the way in West Palm Beach, FL and I am in Ct, so I would have to take a 3 hour plane ride to see him. No problem.. because he said he would pay for my travel expenses, however, he won't cover my male friend's expenses. I can't afford it, and neither can he. Does he honestly expect me to go alone? Am I just expecting too much or should I somehow come up with the cash to cover all of my friend's expenses?

I replied: My god. This just illustrates how badly we need the escort Thread back!

I love the "so called advertising agent" touch. That's precious.

-- end of reply --

this is what happens without The Thread.  There is no central location for people (it was her first post too, btw) to post their questions.

Sep 11 06 10:50 am Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

Curt Burgess wrote:
So over on General Mayhem > Should a photographer pay for a friend's travel?


I replied: My god. This just illustrates how badly we need the escort Thread back!

I love the "so called advertising agent" touch. That's precious.

-- end of reply --

this is what happens without The Thread.  There is no central location for people (it was her first post too, btw) to post their questions.

Yet, would that really have been the place to ask? She might not have gotten all the good advice. And everyone actually agreed. That was crazy...

And he was a photog in the title but the "so called advertising agent" later...

Sep 11 06 10:55 am Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

I feel bad for these people, no one knows what's going on anymore...

Like one person who had been offered a contract with a top NYC agency, and wanted to know if they were a scam, because they wanted them to do another test....

People don't know anything, and are relying on the other people who don't know to tell them.

Sep 11 06 10:59 am Link

Photographer

Boho Hobo

Posts: 25351

Santa Barbara, California, US

Iris Swope wrote:
I feel bad for these people, no one knows what's going on anymore...

Like one person who had been offered a contract with a top NYC agency, and wanted to know if they were a scam, because they wanted them to do another test....

People don't know anything, and are relying on the other people who don't know to tell them.

that's why we make pate!

Sep 11 06 11:02 am Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

What the heck is pate?

I could look it up on dictionary.com  but I wouldn't want to waste a potential post

Sep 11 06 11:05 am Link

Photographer

RRCPhoto

Posts: 548

Bangkok, Bangkok, Thailand

Sigh too many chipper readied forum threads...so little time....

our thread was a great collective melting pot of photographers that date models....models that need escorts and post their home address on the internet.... biker photographers that need wired cameras throughout their studio - for that "special" shooting viewing....

Now it's all scattered..I'm losing track...

Sep 11 06 02:08 pm Link

Photographer

Boho Hobo

Posts: 25351

Santa Barbara, California, US

RRCPhoto wrote:
Sigh too many chipper readied forum threads...so little time....

our thread was a great collective melting pot of photographers that date models....models that need escorts and post their home address on the internet.... biker photographers that need wired cameras throughout their studio - for that "special" shooting viewing....

Now it's all scattered..I'm losing track...

We need to create a petition to get our Addie Juniper escort thread back soon!

Sep 11 06 02:22 pm Link

Photographer

eric krumm

Posts: 46

Athens, Georgia, US

Iris Swope wrote:
I feel bad for these people, no one knows what's going on anymore...

Like one person who had been offered a contract with a top NYC agency, and wanted to know if they were a scam, because they wanted them to do another test....

People don't know anything, and are relying on the other people who don't know to tell them.

yes.

Sep 11 06 02:34 pm Link

Model

Susi

Posts: 3083

Atlanta, Georgia, US

I'm thinking about starting an agency and hitting up hot young model boys to send me web cam auditions of them in their underwear.  If our beloved thread doesn't come back soon I just might start spamming naive 18 year olds.

Sep 11 06 02:54 pm Link

Photographer

RRCPhoto

Posts: 548

Bangkok, Bangkok, Thailand

Susi wrote:
I'm thinking about starting an agency and hitting up hot young model boys to send me web cam auditions of them in their underwear.  If our beloved thread doesn't come back soon I just might start spamming naive 18 year olds.

Oh to be 18 again...and somehow change to be in the "hot" category tongue

Sep 11 06 03:30 pm Link

Photographer

ShadowCrafter

Posts: 1523

Pike Road, Alabama, US

Susi wrote:
If worse comes to worse we can always take over the "Does Bondage Photography Degrade Women" thread:-)

Been there,     Done that.

They are not to be persuaded.

It is clear in that thread that we are all pervs
and sad excuses for
human beans

We are overall   sick and unable to think for ourselves or for others
I personally have been attacked and advised that my photos are in fact degrading.

It is true, my shots have some bondage.

It is true,  I've shot photos of naked women.
They may have to advise me that they feel degraded.

I know I am terribly  sad that I have personally degraded women through what I had thougt was art.

Perhaps I should repent.

Perhaps I should turn over a new leaf.

Naaaaaaaaa.
I love chipping.
I love being a perv. 
I am proud of being a photographer of artistic entanglement.
I am pleased to have artistic imagery that shows erotic photos of people who enjoy their time together with shared moments with keeping each other close in bindings and also close with gags to mute their ability to speak.

Maybe this thread can bring back  THE THREAD.   so that this preposterous imposter can be closed while we all return to THE THREAD. 

No new leaf,   No repentance. 
I am pleased that we have all agreed that an escort is not needed for a model whether shooting glamour, or fetish or being bound and gagged.

Ya'll keep up the pressure.
THE THREAD WILL RETURN

Waiting for 2007

Sep 11 06 09:40 pm Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

Susi wrote:
I'm thinking about starting an agency and hitting up hot young model boys to send me web cam auditions of them in their underwear.  If our beloved thread doesn't come back soon I just might start spamming naive 18 year olds.

Keep a copy for me please smile Well, just the blonde ones...

I have a list for you to audition....

I really am turning into a perv

Sep 11 06 10:27 pm Link

Photographer

ShadowCrafter

Posts: 1523

Pike Road, Alabama, US

Iris Swope wrote:
What the heck is pate?

I could look it up on dictionary.com  but I wouldn't want to waste a potential post

OverFed  Goose Liver  which now has grown in immense popularity due to the concept of contraband in Chicago. 

Always the governmental Prohibition causes a Proliferation which is perhaps unintended.

AHHHhhhhhh  longing for the roaring   20s  or 00s   or whatever seems to be roaring.

Look out you gagglers.  Geese everywhere take flight.

Sep 11 06 11:11 pm Link

Photographer

oldguysrule

Posts: 6129

Iris Swope wrote:
Dude! Some photographer in another thread, just said this....

C_W_PHOTO wrote:
haha I love this!   Anyhow, I'm signing a model exclusively today. A discovery of mine, new to the industry. Two things considered. #1 She is going to be huge, I'm going to be the photog all the way with her. #2 She is naive to the industry and I don't want GWC's getting a hold of her and taking cheesy perv pictures and claiming them to be "art"

As far as signing exclusively with an agency? I agree NEVER. I was always coerced when I modeling to sign an exclusive contract with an agency but when I asked for equal copy write to all my photographs they wouldn’t budge. Therefore I never signed. I give copies of [all] work to all my models and full rights to market/edit/sell their work. That's how I demanded it when I modeled, I pass it on to my models. I think it's only fair.

Iris Swope wrote:
So, he's like, a signed exclusive Escort\Manager...WTF?!?!?


https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=74411

He later says, she can shoot with other photographers, with permission... But does he escort her?

where are the escorts with class? man this is like a bad jeff foxworthy joke.

ok... so who is starting the 'you know he's a sluggo when' thread

fuck this, we were safer when paul snider was lurking

Sep 11 06 11:16 pm Link

Photographer

Boho Hobo

Posts: 25351

Santa Barbara, California, US

oldguysrule wrote:

Iris Swope wrote:
Dude! Some photographer in another thread, just said this....

C_W_PHOTO wrote:
haha I love this!   Anyhow, I'm signing a model exclusively today. A discovery of mine, new to the industry. Two things considered. #1 She is going to be huge, I'm going to be the photog all the way with her. #2 She is naive to the industry and I don't want GWC's getting a hold of her and taking cheesy perv pictures and claiming them to be "art"

As far as signing exclusively with an agency? I agree NEVER. I was always coerced when I modeling to sign an exclusive contract with an agency but when I asked for equal copy write to all my photographs they wouldn’t budge. Therefore I never signed. I give copies of [all] work to all my models and full rights to market/edit/sell their work. That's how I demanded it when I modeled, I pass it on to my models. I think it's only fair.

where are the escorts with class? man this is like a bad jeff foxworthy joke.

ok... so who is starting the 'you know he's a sluggo when' thread

fuck this, we were safer when paul snider was lurking

This should be our safe zone thread until addie returns, IF she returns.  This line we're being fed, that "it's just being edited" might be a sick joke on the part of the mods, trying to keep the escort thread from dethroning the Audrey thread...

I started an Addie poetry and verse thread...if any are so inclined to wax rhapsodic.

Until then we must hold the line, and continue recruiting.  We have some valuable new additions but must not rest.  Addie Juniper and Alton are  counting on us!

Sep 11 06 11:32 pm Link

Photographer

ShadowCrafter

Posts: 1523

Pike Road, Alabama, US

Yes RECRUIT ON my friends,  Once More into the Breach  Dear friends,  Once more.
I think thats a line from something, although I can't quite remember what.

..... o yeah,   I remember   THE FANTASTICKS.....

a well.    EEEEeeeeee gypt  I'm Dying for you EEEEEeeeee gypt.

but then,  ya gotta load a bit of theatrics to get this thead bumped up over 100.

BUMP BUMP

Sep 12 06 05:58 pm Link

Photographer

ShadowCrafter

Posts: 1523

Pike Road, Alabama, US

two

Sep 12 06 11:49 pm Link

Photographer

ShadowCrafter

Posts: 1523

Pike Road, Alabama, US

three

Sep 12 06 11:50 pm Link

Photographer

ShadowCrafter

Posts: 1523

Pike Road, Alabama, US

four

Sep 12 06 11:50 pm Link

Photographer

ShadowCrafter

Posts: 1523

Pike Road, Alabama, US

Ok,  Hooray,  confetti and balloons fly a flutter.   We broke 100 two three four

Sep 12 06 11:51 pm Link

Photographer

oldguysrule

Posts: 6129

Sep 13 06 12:40 am Link

Photographer

Boho Hobo

Posts: 25351

Santa Barbara, California, US

How long does it take to edit a thread?

Even with one hand tied behind back.

And blind.



Is the thread gone for good?

Sep 13 06 12:44 am Link

Model

Iris

Posts: 950

Dallas, Texas, US

KM von Seidl wrote:
How long does it take to edit a thread?

Even with one hand tied behind back.

And blind.



Is the thread gone for good?

I think it's gone for good. They're probably hoping we'll forget about it.

Sep 13 06 12:45 am Link

Photographer

Boho Hobo

Posts: 25351

Santa Barbara, California, US

Kalene wrote:

I think it's gone for good. They're probably hoping we'll forget about it.

K.  I'm momentarily forgetting about the thread and focusing on you.

You're a babe.   Where did you come from?   And welcome to the thread of pervs.  (said with leering look).

Sep 13 06 01:18 am Link

Photographer

oldguysrule

Posts: 6129

KM von Seidl wrote:
K.  I'm momentarily forgetting about the thread and focusing on you.

You're a babe.   Where did you come from?   And welcome to the thread of pervs.  (said with leering look).

lol... you ovulating again?

Sep 13 06 01:20 am Link

Photographer

Boho Hobo

Posts: 25351

Santa Barbara, California, US

oldguysrule wrote:

lol... you ovulating again?

I had to abandon my efforts on the other thread once you and your hawt stuff showed up, with pocket pussy and all.   Besides, I can't be a full-perv on the other threads, they just don't understand and aren't as accepting.

Sep 13 06 01:27 am Link

Model

Iris

Posts: 950

Dallas, Texas, US

KM von Seidl wrote:
K.  I'm momentarily forgetting about the thread and focusing on you.

You're a babe.   Where did you come from?   And welcome to the thread of pervs.  (said with leering look).

Umm, what, do I need an escort to be in the thread ???
Pervs.... *walks off*

lol

p.s. (I have the mind of a 12 year old boy, I'm a perv too)

Sep 13 06 01:28 am Link

Photographer

oldguysrule

Posts: 6129

Kalene wrote:
Umm, what, do I need an escort to be in the thread ???
Pervs.... *walks off*

Touche!

Sep 13 06 01:47 am Link

Photographer

Boho Hobo

Posts: 25351

Santa Barbara, California, US

Kalene wrote:

Umm, what, do I need an escort to be in the thread ???
Pervs.... *walks off*

lol

p.s. (I have the mind of a 12 year old boy, I'm a perv too)

Yeah get your escort we have a special machine for him!

Sep 13 06 02:12 am Link

Model

Iris

Posts: 950

Dallas, Texas, US

KM von Seidl wrote:

Yeah get your escort we have a special machine for him!

My escort will be a female in 5 inch heels....

Wait, that didn't sound right....

Sep 13 06 02:16 am Link

Photographer

oldguysrule

Posts: 6129

Kalene wrote:

My escort will be a female in 5 inch heels....

Wait, that didn't sound right....

lol mind of a 12-year old boy, indeed! dunno any 12-year-olds with truly curly tails.

Sep 13 06 02:30 am Link

Model

Iris

Posts: 950

Dallas, Texas, US

oldguysrule wrote:
lol mind of a 12-year old boy, indeed! dunno any 12-year-olds with truly curly tails.

I totally didn't understand the "with truly curly tails"

But... anyhoo....

Edited...She'll come after me for posting that...

I'll bring her as my escort, to protect me from pervy men...but then, the perv was a female... so...hmmm...

I'll have to think about that...

No, I'll only shoot with the type of photographer that I don't feel that I need an escort for....fabulous idea. If only everyone would do that, then "THE THREAD" never would have been made....

I'm bored...

Sep 13 06 02:39 am Link

Photographer

oldguysrule

Posts: 6129

kinky

nice boots

Sep 13 06 02:46 am Link

Photographer

Boho Hobo

Posts: 25351

Santa Barbara, California, US

Kalene wrote:

My escort will be a female in 5 inch heels....

Wait, that didn't sound right....

Yeah, you want to rethink that.

Female escort in 5 inch heels is hardly a scary thing.  (resuming leering look now that I'm back on the thread).

Sep 13 06 02:53 am Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

KM von Seidl wrote:

Yeah, you want to rethink that.

Female escort in 5 inch heels is hardly a scary thing.  (resuming leering look now that I'm back on the thread).

True, but Kalene won't make a scary escort either...and she functions as one, more often than as a model....

Sep 13 06 02:58 am Link

Photographer

Boho Hobo

Posts: 25351

Santa Barbara, California, US

Iris Swope wrote:

True, but Kalene won't make a scary escort either...and she functions as one, more often than as a model....

Too bad we don't get to see Kalene here much.   I hope she gets to work with some fun photographers.

Maybe you should work with her!  Tell her to leave her escorts at home though.

Sep 13 06 03:02 am Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

KM von Seidl wrote:
Too bad we don't get to see Kalene here much.   I hope she gets to work with some fun photographers.

Maybe you should work with her!  Tell her to leave her escorts at home though.

Yeah..would be nice...but I don't have a remote control shutter release yet...lol

She's probably too fat to be modeling though... *snicker* or m&m's....

hahaha...oh, so bored...

(she's got a fat roll in the pic with the camera!)

Sep 13 06 03:05 am Link

Wardrobe Stylist

Karen Garlick

Posts: 64

New Haven, Connecticut, US

Curt Burgess wrote:

I do hope little Tara is ok.  She seems so troubled. I hope she senses our love!

Why do they always have to come from Ct.?
This one contacted Hadyn on myspace about a year ago to do a porn shoot? He doesnt do porn anymore.
But said she only had 15 minutes after work in which to do it. He thanked her blocked her and called the suicide hotline or suicide girls I cant recall which. I believe this little girl needs alot of help,just doesnt know quite how to ask.

Sep 13 06 07:38 am Link