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Models Offering Favors for Shoots! What the F--- ?
Just recently I contacted a model here on MM to shoot for one of my projects, I was even willing to compensate her for her time, but then I get a responce asking if she can do any "favors" for me so that I can shoot her port, and by "favors" I mean, sexual favors. Of course I was taken by surpise, and told her that the only favor I'd need is for her to work with me on my project, in exchange, I would shoot her project for her port. Long story short, She supposedly got "wierded out" because apparently, the other photographers she has worked with either asked for payment or favors. I was like what the F---? I've worked with over 30 models from here and this is definitely my wierdest experience yet. I tend to give people the benefit of a doubt, especially here on MM, but seriously, how many low lives are out there giving other photogs a bad name? and how many models out there are 'selling themselves' short? This is definitely going to be an interesting thread. please share your comments as well as experiences, because I still can't really figure out what the hell that was about. May 03 06 10:46 am Link She wasn't "wearded out". ..she was ashamed..you're too good for that...don't pay attention to it..indeed, I'm sure, as in any industry there are alot of "characters"..sooner or later..you'll be able to hone in on the people who are and have a mutual vision and aspiration as to yours whether it be in photography as a whole or a specific project. I'm so sorry to hear about that, It makes models look bad too. Who knows what might be expected of an unsuspecting model for that matter..one who doesn't do such "favors". Oh well..I'm finding myself less and less surprised of hearing such things hear..sad..but so! May 03 06 10:52 am Link Ok, Send her my way, I will accept favors in lieu of ..... Nevermind. People will take me seriously! - I know they are already lining up to take pop shots at me! May 03 06 10:52 am Link Very Sad ! ! ! May 03 06 10:57 am Link Lorna Bailey wrote: You're right, I mean, I've heard of some disgusting stories about photographers from models I've work with, but this is definitely a first. May 03 06 10:59 am Link DJ wrote: I agree! May 03 06 10:59 am Link And Lorna, Thanks for the kind words. May 03 06 11:00 am Link SE Photo wrote: Maybe she just wanted to paint your house? May 03 06 11:00 am Link or wash your car. Which, if she did it in a nice white T-shirt and a G-string, could make for some awesome pics.... May 03 06 11:02 am Link I got told by a photographer that some models do that. i reckon he was fishing for some favours though.. i may be blonde (and now a fake red) but i ain't f*cking stupid K!!! May 03 06 11:02 am Link All I can say is you did the right thing by not accepting her "favors" as payment. There's no way I would, either. Professionalism is something I try to maintain at all times, and there is simply no reason for a model to feel she needs to offer "favors" in the first place. I'd like to know who these photographers are so they can be dealt with somehow. They certainly do their best to make all of us look bad... -P- May 03 06 11:03 am Link Ty Simone wrote: LOL, you can have her! May 03 06 11:04 am Link UdoR wrote: LOLOL, damn, guees I missed my chance for renovations May 03 06 11:05 am Link Hmmmm. wonder if in leiu of payment I could get some of my photographers to do my dishes, wash my floors, clean and fold laundry, make the bed, cook some dinner...oh, I am looking for a wife, not a photographer..... May 03 06 11:05 am Link shelly1982 wrote: yeah, according to her, it was actually "wierd" for me not to want "favors" May 03 06 11:06 am Link send her to this photographer, they are on the barter system! http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/ers/156362811.html very soon there will be no need for rates May 03 06 11:08 am Link Lapis wrote: you need a butler! May 03 06 11:08 am Link Pat Thielen wrote: Seriously, I constantly find myself having to make up for all these losers. MM is not an escort service!!!! May 03 06 11:09 am Link SE Photo wrote: You are a super-freak! lol. I have NEVER had this experience of either expecting or offering 'favors'. (Other than...make sure I get my coffee! before we shoot) I may not be a full time model, but I am way more professional than that. May 03 06 11:09 am Link I actually feel sorry for her. Sounds like she's prob gone thru life having noone do anything for her w/out wanting something in return. Caroline May 03 06 11:10 am Link What kind of favors? Like helping with the lighting or styling? May 03 06 11:12 am Link Wait, so you're complaining? lol. All kidding aside, I really hope people do not actually do that. Maybe she mixed you up with another person she had been corresponding with? May 03 06 11:12 am Link Eric S. wrote: didn't think I had to spell it out, but sexual favors, messing around, etc... May 03 06 11:15 am Link Claire Elizabeth wrote: Unfortunately, people do really do that, but cream always rises to the top. May 03 06 11:16 am Link I gotta say that I am totally amazed. "Favors" bad choice of words. What the hell are people thinking. Look before I even consider taking a shot of someone I interview them in person first. I want them to know that I am professional about the craft and that I'm not doing this job to get dates or extra "favors". If a model is interested in "favors" you are asking for a world of trouble and you need to move on to a model that is more serious about the craft. If you are a Photographer with a "favor" clause then you need to get serious about what you expect. In short never use the word "FAVOR". Regards Richard May 03 06 11:17 am Link Claire Elizabeth wrote: Nope, 100% no mix up because she asked for my screen name to "discuss." And she was even persistant in offering. May 03 06 11:17 am Link Lapis wrote: LOL May 03 06 11:19 am Link SE Photo wrote: No way! You mean Trix 4 Pix ? May 03 06 11:20 am Link Richard Cleveland wrote: Totally understandable Richard, I was simply quoting the model. May 03 06 11:21 am Link Eric S. wrote: Shocking! isn't it. May 03 06 11:21 am Link Eric S. wrote: Nah... I think she wanted to help with his Light meter or fix the backdrop May 03 06 11:22 am Link SE Photo wrote: Wow. That is wrong on so many levels. May 03 06 11:23 am Link Eric S. wrote: exactly my point, MM is the last place I expected to find this, although I've seen some other wierd things here, but for the most part, the moderators are doing their job. May 03 06 11:24 am Link I'm often offered free yoga classes or makeup lessons or Croatian grappa for shooting. I sometimes offer freshly baked pie. May 03 06 11:24 am Link Seriously though, for any models that want to do that, I suggest they diversify a little bit. Photographers are notoriously cheap/poor, so they should put out an ad in their local alternative paper, earn 3-500 dollars a pop, and then PAY a good photographer to give them a portfolio. By my calculations, they will still come out ahead. May 03 06 11:25 am Link Brian Diaz wrote: yeah, I've gotten the yoga classes before, but pies? Maybe we all need to come to your place, lol May 03 06 11:26 am Link Lapis wrote: All things considered...... Nahhhh. May 03 06 11:26 am Link Brian Diaz wrote: Yes, Brian has shot me and theda TFS....time for spaghetti...home cooked no less! May 03 06 11:26 am Link SE Photo wrote: Wow thats pretty sad... May 03 06 11:27 am Link Last time a model did me a "favor" for helping with her port I got crabs..... No seriously, she took me to the Red Lobster for an all you can eat crab fest May 03 06 11:28 am Link |