Lorna Bailey wrote:
She wasn't "wearded out". ..she was ashamed..you're too good for that...don't pay attention to it..indeed, I'm sure, as in any industry there are alot of "characters"..sooner or later..you'll be able to hone in on the people who are and have a mutual vision and aspiration as to yours whether it be in photography as a whole or a specific project.

I'm so sorry to hear about that, It makes models look bad too. Who knows what might be expected of an unsuspecting model for that matter..one who doesn't do such "favors". Oh well..I'm finding myself less and less surprised of hearing such things hear..sad..but so!

You're right, I mean, I've heard of some disgusting stories about photographers from models I've work with, but this is definitely a first.

DJ wrote:
Very Sad ! ! !

I agree!

SE Photo wrote:
Just recently I contacted a model here on MM to shoot for one of my projects, I was even willing to compensate her for her time, but then I get a responce asking if she can do any "favors" for me so that I can shoot her port.

Maybe she just wanted to paint your house?

Ty Simone wrote:
Ok, Send her my way, I will accept favors in lieu of ..... Nevermind. People will take me seriously! - I know they are already lining up to take pop shots at me!

LOL, you can have her!

UdoR wrote:

Maybe she just wanted to paint your house?

LOLOL, damn, guees I missed my chance for renovations

shelly1982 wrote:
I got told by a photographer that some models do that. i reckon he was fishing for some favours though..

i may be blonde (and now a fake red) but i ain't f*cking stupid K!!!

yeah, according to her, it was actually "wierd" for me not to want "favors"

Lapis wrote:
Hmmmm. wonder if in leiu of payment I could get some of my photographers to do my dishes, wash my floors, clean and fold laundry, make the bed, cook some dinner...oh, I am looking for a wife, not a photographer.....

you need a butler!

Pat Thielen wrote:
All I can say is you did the right thing by not accepting her "favors" as payment. There's no way I would, either. Professionalism is something I try to maintain at all times, and there is simply no reason for a model to feel she needs to offer "favors" in the first place. I'd like to know who these photographers are so they can be dealt with somehow. They certainly do their best to make all of us look bad...

  -P-

Seriously, I constantly find myself having to make up for all these losers. MM is not an escort service!!!!

SE Photo wrote:

yeah, according to her, it was actually "wierd" for me not to want "favors"

You are a super-freak! lol. I have NEVER had this experience of either expecting or offering 'favors'. (Other than...make sure I get my coffee! before we shoot) I may not be a full time model, but I am way more professional than that.

Eric S. wrote:
What kind of favors? Like helping with the lighting or styling?

didn't think I had to spell it out, but sexual favors, messing around, etc...

Claire Elizabeth wrote:
Wait, so you're complaining? lol. All kidding aside, I really hope people do not actually do that. Maybe she mixed you up with another person she had been corresponding with?

Unfortunately, people do really do that, but cream always rises to the top.

Act professional, and expect nothing less from your photographers.

BTW, being professional in your behaviour has nothing to do with how you earn your money. Even the amateur photographers should maintain a code of conduct.

Ironically, I have heard more horror stories about 'professional' photographers for cheesecake mags pulling a 'casting couch' scenerio on the models...who are then afraid to press charges for the sake of their careers.

Of course, it goes both ways. There are models that once turned down become psychotic and press untrue charges against the photographer.

That is why all the smart photographers date the stylists.

Claire Elizabeth wrote:
Wait, so you're complaining? lol. All kidding aside, I really hope people do not actually do that. Maybe she mixed you up with another person she had been corresponding with?

Nope, 100% no mix up because she asked for my screen name to "discuss." And she was even persistant in offering.

Good thing I back up my IMs, lol

Lapis wrote:

Unfortunately, people do really do that, but cream always rises to the top.

Act professional, and expect nothing less from your photographers.

BTW, being professional in your behaviour has nothing to do with how you earn your money. Even the amateur photographers should maintain a code of conduct.

Ironically, I have heard more horror stories about 'professional' photographers for cheesecake mags pulling a 'casting couch' scenerio on the models...who are then afraid to press charges for the sake of their careers.

Of course, it goes both ways. There are models that once turned down become psychotic and press untrue charges against the photographer.

That is why all the smart photographers date the stylists.

LOL

SE Photo wrote:
didn't think I had to spell it out, but sexual favors, messing around, etc...

No way! You mean Trix 4 Pix ?
That goes on here?

Richard Cleveland wrote:
I gotta say that I am totally amazed.  "Favors"  bad choice of words.  What the hell are people thinking.  Look before I even consider taking a shot of someone I interview them in person first.  I want them to know that I am professional about the craft and that I'm not doing this job to get dates or extra "favors".  If a model is interested in "favors" you are asking for a world of trouble and you need to move on to a model that is more serious about the craft.  If you are a Photographer with a "favor" clause then you need to get serious about what you expect.  In short never use the word "FAVOR".

Regards
Richard

Totally understandable Richard, I was simply quoting the model.

Eric S. wrote:

No way! You mean Trix 4 Pix ?
That goes on here?

Shocking! isn't it.

Eric S. wrote:
What kind of favors? Like helping with the lighting or styling?

Nah... I think she wanted to help with his Light meter or fix the backdrop

SE Photo wrote:

Nope, 100% no mix up because she asked for my screen name to "discuss." And she was even persistant in offering.

Good thing I back up my IMs, lol

Wow. That is wrong on so many levels.

Eric S. wrote:

No way! You mean Trix 4 Pix ?
That goes on here?

exactly my point, MM is the last place I expected to find this, although I've seen some other wierd things here, but for the most part, the moderators are doing their job.

Brian Diaz wrote:
I'm often offered free yoga classes or makeup lessons or Croatian grappa for shooting.  I sometimes offer freshly baked pie.

yeah, I've gotten the yoga classes before, but pies? Maybe we all need to come to your place, lol

Lapis wrote:
Shocking! isn't it.

All things considered...... Nahhhh.
Now if she didn't show up for the session, now that's another story.

Brian Diaz wrote:
I'm often offered free yoga classes or makeup lessons or Croatian grappa for shooting.  I sometimes offer freshly baked pie.

Yes, Brian has shot me and theda TFS....time for spaghetti...home cooked no less!

SE Photo wrote:

didn't think I had to spell it out, but sexual favors, messing around, etc...

Wow thats pretty sad...

I know there are some horrid photogs out there , but she should never lower herself like that...*shakes head*