Greg Kolack wrote:
If you are a nw model to the site and list some experience than post this in your profile:

i'm a very open-minded model and i'm willing to discuss any type of assignment. however i am on this site to find paying shoots only, no TFP. my rates vary depending on the type of shoot that it is, with a minimum of 3 hours shooting time. i normally charge around $100 per hour, but that can be left open for discussion. i do have experience and i'm looking to broaden my horizons. i travel with an escort and only shoot in studios (not out of a home). i will consider 'on location' shoots.

HA! There are so many fun reasons to lurk around MM but reading crap like this? Oh yeah. They could charge admission for stuff like this.

Chu Toi wrote:

HA! There are so many fun reasons to lurk around MM but reading crap like this? Oh yeah. They could charge admission for stuff like this.

Gotta love the cut-throat unprofessionalism from some people

majoy wrote:

let's hope she's not a bunnyboiler on top of fug!!

I thought is was "fugly"

Tony Culture Photoz wrote:

I thought is was "fugly"

It is fugly.  At least, that's how I always said it.

gsvb wrote:
Very interesting that everyone who has so far posted on here has "digital" images
And also that models who have done nothing are poking fun at other models who have done nothing..
This thread had the potential to bring some much needed humour to this site ,like a David Letterman " top10 list".
But of course it got shot down very quickly by people who felt the need to self promote themselves etc etc.
I think this site is closer to myspace than it is to the Modeling or Photographic Industry
Good luck with the rest of the thread..
Like i said, I thought it started great.

i agree with gary. quit hatin.

MadamePsychosis wrote:
i agree with gary. quit hatin.

i also find the premise and contents of this thread offensive.

Greg Kolack wrote:
Check this one out - this model is looking for photographer to do very specific ideas of hers, some of which will obviously be a very complex shoot, yet is demanding she is paid by the photographer. Then later on in her forum posting, she complains that no one has contaced her to pay her to do this shoot! Completely clueless.

At this time I am currently looking for any photographers in my area that would be interested in doing any kind of dark/morbid/horror & macabre/death related type of PAID shoots(No nudity. No sexually explicit acts). Although I really do love to shoot for TFP/TFCD and I normally dont mind, I cant at this time. I'm in need of some serious money so if you want to work with me you'd be better prepared to do a PAID SHOOT with me. (If I really like your work, I may shoot for TFP/TFCD). If this is you and you're totally serious about this, please contact me with your schedule and any other info that you think may be important. If you have any specific ideas for any of these catagories, please discuss them with me before hand. (Gas expense may be required no matter the compansation of the shoot)

MUA/Hairstylist wanted for the following:

Current Shoot Ideas:
'Anime' This would be one where I and the photographer come up with a unique anime character and create a story with photographys. (No nudity. No sexually explicit acts)

'Gender Bender' This would be one where I would change my physical appearance to that of an androgenous man and a male model would chance his physical appearance to that of a beautiful woman. Then I, the male model and the photographer would create a story with photographs. I beleive this could be very erotic. (No nudity. No sexually explicit acts)

If you would like to work with me using any of the above ideas please contact me about doing so. I would like these shoots to be paid (I may make some acceptions, depending on the photographer's location and wether or not I may have to provide props and/or costumes. Gas expense may be required not matter the compansation of a shoot)

You gotta be kidding me!

pamela mars wrote:
also-what about bands that do a lot online.......does that make them "internet bands"?

Only if they have a manager who is actually their model girlfriend, held in tandem. And they refuse to perform nude.

Star

John Chainz wrote:
okay to reply to the person that replied to me...... You never know maybe just MAYBE the model has some phobias about being nude. I have a friend who has no problem showing off her body but she refuses to ever be nude around anyone at all because of her past (which i will not indulge the world in)


and secondly....isnt MIME those non funny well rather annoying people with jsut whit emakeup on thatdont talk and make believe they are in a box? lol

as this may be off the topic..

I'm one of those models ;o) just because I do lingerie does not mean I will do nude- for my own personal reasons nude is just not for me- i have a hard time with that in my personal life as well (took me about 2years 2 let my bf see) so if i'm not comfortable showing myself naked to someone i love why would i do it for total strangers?

lingerei and nude are two COMLETELY different categories...

iceblueeyedgirl wrote:
Sign you are an internet photographer... you are on this site.

and this is one of the better ones

ChristerArt wrote:
Did anyone do this one?:

I demand a CD of all the images from the shoot before I leave!

Okay, one thing about that though.  There is something that some photographers do and I wish that all photographers would do this...after the shoot they'll give the model a CD of all the raw images (a "proof CD") before she leaves the studio.  Then the photog. will ask the model to choose some of her favorite shots from each look, and the photog. will edit those and send them to her via email or photo CD.  I like it when it's done that way.  The whole "waiting to see my pics" thing sucks...especially when you've already paid the photog. and have to leave the studio empty-handed. 

I think the only exception should be when a model is shooting with a photog. travelling from out-of-state, and he couldn't have his computer/CD burner equipment with him to make the CD.

Tikeya wrote:

ChristerArt wrote:
Did anyone do this one?:


I think the only exception should be when a model is shooting with a photog. travelling from out-of-state, and he couldn't have his computer/CD burner equipment with him to make the CD.

or they do internet proof galleries like I do

Tikeya wrote:
Okay, one thing about that though.  There is something that some photographers do and I wish that all photographers would do this...after the shoot they'll give the model a CD of all the raw images (a "proof CD") before she leaves the studio.  Then the photog. will ask the model to choose some of her favorite shots from each look, and the photog. will edit those and send them to her via email or photo CD.  I like it when it's done that way.  The whole "waiting to see my pics" thing sucks...especially when you've already paid the photog. and have to leave the studio empty-handed. 

I think the only exception should be when a model is shooting with a photog. travelling from out-of-state, and he couldn't have his computer/CD burner equipment with him to make the CD.

Beg your pardon,  but this shows how little you understand of the way professional photographers work - and what it means to the photographer if he should give away the RAW images from a shoot:

1 - the RAW images are just that - RAW - think of them as NEGATIVES - the images are NOT FINISHED.

2 - most professional photogs shoot a file format called appropriately "RAW". This means those images will have to be PROCESSED into a file format you can work with - and these images are HUGE - from 50 - 100 MEGABYTE EACH when processed - and the processing takes LOTS of TIME - even on the most powerful computers.

3 - most amateurs shoot Jpg - this is a file format pros don't use much because it is a file format that when saved discards information in the file - it compresses the file - this means the integrety and the quality of the image is compromised - and so you get a lesser quality file. Now - some photogs may use this fileformat for a test shoot - but then he/she knows that if he/she should produce a dynamite image at that particulas shoot it will never be as good as it could have been - and most pros won't compromise on quality..

4 - and this is the most important thing - if I should give you a copy of all the RAW my images, I stand a very good chance of losing my COPYRIGHT to those images - and speaking for myself - I will never give up my copyright - and constantly turn down professional work because the client demands the copyright or the sharing of it.

5 - and why would I release a number of unfinishd images? I care about my work - no way would I give RAW images to someone - even if I shot Jpgs so I could give away a fileformat that the model actually could see.

6 - and as I mentioned earlier - even after processing into a format I can work with, the images are still not finished - I will after the processing - which normally takes a day - select the images to finish and print - and that usually takes another week or two. I will then give the model a cd with all the FINISHED images so she can use those for her personal promotion. They will low rez and she will not be allowed to print from this cd and all images will have my copoyright on and inside the images - this way I protect my copyright and can search the internet for copyright violations.

Those images are images I am comfortable to show to the world, because I know they are up to MY standards - and I know they will show the model at her best. I am a very good judge of how a particular model looks at her best - that's why I am paid thousands of dollars to photograph women.

At the same time I deliver the CD I will also give the model a number of prints -and every one of those have take much time to prepare for and actually print - I am not talking of Walgreen quickie prints here - I am talking about high quality LARGE archival prints that are printed to the same standards as the prints my collectors pay large sums of money for - on very expensive printers. If the model wants prints for her portfolio she can have those as well. I normally do not include those as most models I work with much prefer larger prints.

Now do you understand why every time a pro sees this demand they know they are dealing with someone who is not a professional? And that when a photog is offering that a payment it means he/she does not care enough - or have the equipment  - to finish the images. He/she in effect gives you a half finished product.

That last sentence will probably result in me getting lots of angry denounciations from a number of photogs. But the truth is - the TFCD thing is something that has only happened after digital made it more or less possible for anyone to call him/herself a photographer. All one need is a digital camera - and presto - he/she is now a photographer. That the resulting image is still only the half of the finished product is something easily overlooked.

Star wrote:

Tikeya wrote:

ChristerArt wrote:
Did anyone do this one?:

Tikea wrote this:

I think the only exception should be when a model is shooting with a photog. travelling from out-of-state, and he couldn't have his computer/CD burner equipment with him to make the CD.

Ok, I am answering this one:

or they do internet proof galleries like I do

Yes, I do internet "proof" galleries for my commercial clients to choose from - but the images are still FINISHED images - no way would I put up a number of unfinished images for a client to choose from.

John Jebbia wrote:

Yeah. But you are on my short list of models to shoot in '06. But WARNING:

If I buy you a plane ticket and you fail to show. I will hunt you down and give you the worst nipple twister in the history of nipple twisting!

hey why dont  you fly me out ill show...lol

Tikeya wrote:
No, I beg YOUR pardon, but I'm very much aware of the definition of raw, thank you.    And yes I do know of PROFESSIONAL photographers who give the model a proof CD as well as the edited photos, but obviously not every photographer is going to do the same thing.

I bet you if they give the model a "proof" CD it is still edited and every image is copyrighted and has the photog's name imprinted on it. I don't know ANY pro photog who would ever give away a CD full of raw and unedited images - unless they decided the whole shoot was going to be a wash and had so little faith in the outcome of the shoot that they decided to shoot in Jpg.