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Are There Any Photogs Who Would Never Shoot Porn?
SLE Photography wrote: Hahahahaheheheh Mar 12 06 07:48 pm Link Geez- what a bunch of phonies. Cmon people- lets not lie. Multi Billion dollar industry and Im the only one who has seen one. Uh huh, sure. I would do it- no problem. Mar 12 06 07:55 pm Link As the OP I defined porn as Hustler or Blue Boy. Can we leave it at that for this thread? Time to start another. Mar 12 06 07:55 pm Link My definition of porn - just my 2 cents on it. Any image containing nudity showing a simulated or actual sex act. (except kissing, hugging, non-sex organ touching) Example, an image similar to the sculpture "The Lovers" would not be porn. Any image containing penetrations, insertions, spreads (where the genitalia is manipulated for better viewing), or masturbation. A penis or vagina that is the focal point of an image is not necessarily porn. Any image where an actual crime is being committed. And my own personal sub-definitions - Any true bondage image containing nudity or puttng a woman in harms way. A woman tied with rope, yes. A woman tied with wet spaghetti, no. I don't really consider fetish work to be porn unless it includes one of the above. I know some here would consider for example foot fetish to be porn. I might call it damn silly but not porn, unless it included any of the above. But these are just my own personal definitions, your mileage may vary. Mar 12 06 07:57 pm Link Aaron Cantu wrote: Your first reply said nothing about YOUR morality nor being a hypocrite or even mentioned your daughter... Mar 12 06 07:59 pm Link FabioTovar wrote: Exactly. Mar 12 06 08:09 pm Link SLE Photography wrote: MarkMarek wrote: Uh, it wasn't a joke Mar 12 06 08:24 pm Link Sure, I do it 2-3 days a week. The wife even joined me on set today, though I think she was more bored than anything. It's still photography: you have to put a set together, pick what the model(s) will be wearing, set up lighting, do a few test shots to be sure it's right, shoot it (the actual shortest amount of time of the work) and do it all over again till the day is done. I do other work as well that has nothing to do with porn. Keep professional about your bussiness and where's the problem? All those that say they won't, send me the work, I like getting paid. Mike Mar 12 06 08:25 pm Link DeBoer Photography wrote: hahahahahahaha. I'm really trying not to laugh. San Francisco Bay Area here (and an artist). Enough said. Mar 12 06 08:32 pm Link No offense... absolutely not. I make a very good living with fashion. Nudity is not my thing. Mar 12 06 08:35 pm Link Um, I already do. That's how I pay my bills, LOL. Mar 12 06 08:36 pm Link The fact that it's even a question says a lot about the internet modeling world. In other areas of business modeling and porn and photographry are seen as separate industries, as they are. yes, porn requrires actors and photographers, but to assume that any photographer or actor would be willing to participate is ludicrous. I personally would not shoot porn. I already work at a retail store in addition to making money off photography. Until I can pay the bills with the I consider respectable (MY opinion here so don't bother telling me why you think I'm wrong on this) I will find other ways to make up the difference. I would rather shoot weddings (which I enjoy even though some photographers think it's not a respectable option) and work a job part time than do something I don't feel ok about. Mar 12 06 08:37 pm Link There are some very refreshing, well thought out, responses in this thread  Thanks!Mar 12 06 08:42 pm Link so we have a couple guys not needing the money two backsliding republicans pretending ... and only two brave souls who said they have done it. I did it. Did not like it! Wont do it again! Had nothing to do with sex, it was the producers, pimps and nasty attitude of the people making the movie. The guys looked like pimps behaved like assholes! Now I photograph escorts all the time - different environment - I love them, they pay cash. Once in a while they are accompanied by a 'manager' with a lot of gold teeth but that are remarkably well behaved. Funny, real pimps behave themselves, porno scumbags piss me off! Mar 12 06 08:44 pm Link It all depends on ones definition... but for me I would not shoot it. YET, I have had some people go to my OMP site and say its PORN? To be more specific, I am not interested in shooting something involving sex, bondage or dehuminizing. Do I shoot naked people, most of the time! Its more about the message than the definition of porn. I even have some people in my church that love my work and the see the art and others that think its porn. I guess it boils down to a personal boundery I have set up as to what I get involved with... sometimes that boundery may even blur so I then go to my motive in the work. For example, I may do something that for a theme on depression have a model tied-up to show depression as opposed to all tied up and ready for sex? I may shoot something I consider sensual yet other may be very sexually turned onto it? Does that make it porn? Mar 12 06 08:47 pm Link I guess I would need to know what your definition of porn was, to be able to answer your question....To some, fully clothed but with their groin area fully exposed is porn...to some...even their faces showing....ever heard of the Taliban? Mar 12 06 08:51 pm Link I am a republican... but what does that have to do with it? Sounds like a cheap shot. Are people not allowed to modify or clarify their responses? Rest assured that after almost 11 years of marriage, and five years before that, that I am happily married and looking forward to many many more years. I am not going to apologize if you're offended at my choice to be a better father and husband than a photographer, and if that includes choosing not to photograph pornography. Mr. D: I apologize that my reasons were not completely clarified through my original posting... I am only human. Mar 12 06 08:53 pm Link Stephen Dawson wrote: Would boring be a good enough reason? Mar 12 06 08:55 pm Link Craig Thomson wrote: I second that. its not a real "turn-on" for me creativly. I mean the formula is boobs, penis, do I make you randy!... lol Mar 12 06 09:12 pm Link not even playboy Mar 12 06 09:17 pm Link Pornography? As in lurid material used to get someone off yet commonly considered obscene pornography? Sorry, but no, I don't do weddings and I thought I clarified that long ago... There are things I've shot which I don't show off. What I add to my book has to fall in line with my personal direction as a photographer. And though I've shot plenty of things I won't end up in my book, I've never shot any porn. I mean, I'm a well-respected pillar of the community who mentors teens in his spare time and all... ...but I can still be had. We all have a price. And mine might not even be all that high, either. With a reasonable amount of liquid assets, I'll shoot. Mar 12 06 09:17 pm Link No... Mar 12 06 09:18 pm Link Desert Winds Digital Ph wrote: How come no one has asked me to shoot porn? Mar 12 06 09:35 pm Link Aaron Cantu wrote: Aaron, Mar 12 06 09:36 pm Link KARLOS MATTHEWS wrote: Jonny Longlense Mar 12 06 09:40 pm Link Aaron Cantu wrote: Its not a faithfulness issue, its a respect issue he has for his family. Mar 12 06 09:40 pm Link Indifferent either way............ Mar 12 06 09:40 pm Link its terrible , disgusting , immoral, oh wait ...were talking about porn.... i thought this was the wedding section....in that case.... sure Mar 12 06 09:46 pm Link Brandon Cordon wrote: lol, Brandon, re-read what you wrote above and tell me this is not saying that he and his wife have TRUST issues... Mar 12 06 09:49 pm Link DeBoer Photography wrote: haha, yeah yeah. Mar 12 06 10:01 pm Link Not interested in shooting porn. I would draw the line at Playboy-style, but I've never made an attempt to get close to Playboy-style either. But it's true that people disagree over what porn is. What Melvin is showing here, for example, isn't porn in my book, but he keeps saying over and over he shoots porn. I don't see it. Mar 12 06 10:12 pm Link I wouldn't shoot porn. I would do porn. No one's asked me, though. Mar 12 06 10:17 pm Link Anyutik69 wrote: Shit, anything goes in San Francisco. All of the freaks there. Both male and female. I knew of one who did still photography nude. It started out as boudoir and then went from that to were and another female were Crunchy and Munching at the Y. And I'm not talking about the YMCA. Funny, she was on Craig's List hoping that someone will pay her to shoot this. Oh? Mar 12 06 10:19 pm Link As I said above, I'm not really interested in shooting porn. Perhaps I should have added that I wouldn't have any compunctions about it and I don't assign any moral significance to porn. The only reason I might tend to shy away from it, assuming I were interested in doing it, is because of the suffocating legal burdens they impose in the U.S. Mar 12 06 10:26 pm Link Every industry has its sleazy side. Soon after photography was invented, someone in France started churning out porn. What was offered back then is ridiculous by todays standards. There will always be people willing - even eager - to compromise their personal ethics in order to make a buck. If you shoot porn, where do you draw the line. Kiddie porn? Bestiality? I think that once you cross that line, and snuff out your personal integrity, there will be no more lines left for you to cross. You'll do it all, and find none of it objectionable. Mar 12 06 10:30 pm Link DeBoer: I appreciate the conversation... it made me think about a few things but alas I must clarify a few points... You wrote: I'm just giving you a hard time. It is just funny to me because the reasons you stated on your second entry would be valid ones and do not have anything to do with trust issues with regards to your wife. The first posting, however, definitely points to trust issues... Response: Please accept my apologies for not seeing the sarcasm...I am working on finishing grades for my students and it has been a long day. Trust would be more on my part Brandon clarified it much better... I don't ever want to go near "that line". You wrote: BTW, would you approve of your daughter living with (and most likely having sex with) someone before marriage? How about if she did this numerous times until she found the "right" one? Response: NO, I would not approve. Her mother and I waited until our wedding night. You wrote: You, yourself, said you lived with your wife for five years before getting married. Would you approve of your daughter "trying" out various guys over and over until she found "Mr. Right?" Reponse: Again, let me claritfy... we dated but did not live together until after we were married. You wrote: I do the best that I can to teach my daughter not to be judgemental/prejudiced and to accept that people are different...and to respect the differences that others may have. Response: How old is she? I love it when my little girl runs to the door to hug me when I get home. Anyway... I will teach her to be understanding and respectful of other people's opinions/beliefs, but she doesn't have to agree with them and she also needs to understand that just because they have that opinion does not mean that it is right. You wrote: The "Republican" bit has to do with all the stories that have change within the current Administration...ranging from the "War on Terror" to the "War being Over" to "Weapons of Mass Distruction" to "Katrina..we had no way of knowing..." to ....well, "Not having trust issues with your wife." Response: Too political for tonight... and this thread. So I will pass. Photographing people is indeed more exciting than bugs or water (my next project) but pornography is not my cup of tea. BTW...Brandon thanks for clarifying my position for me, almost like Dick Cheney - hahahahaha Cantu Mar 12 06 10:34 pm Link Aaron Cantu wrote: Just don't ever go huntin' with him. Mar 12 06 10:50 pm Link Not me Jack. Not a prude by any streatch of the imagination but if I cant capture the beauty or sensuality of a woman with her legs closed then I probably wont do any better with them open. Lohkee Mar 12 06 11:49 pm Link KARLOS MATTHEWS wrote: UdoR wrote: How 'bout "Willie Heater" for a credit line? Mar 13 06 07:43 am Link Not unless I needed it to survive. Mar 13 06 07:51 am Link |
