Kelly Kooper wrote:
Hi guys,

Now the obvious answer to this is no and how ridiculous for someone to assume that because you take on a sexy persona in photos, you also have little to no morals. Because I've recently done a topless shoot and been very proud of the photos, I'm obviously against this idea but I'm of a few in my group of friends unfortunately. Although they say they don't feel that way about me, I've shown them other models who have done similar work to mine and they're first thoughts were 'Yeah, she looks like the type to sleep around'. I have a few questions on this. The first being to the togs - In your personal life, would you think twice about dating a model that shot nude images? And to the models - do you, in any way, look down on girls that have done topless/nude photos? Please be honest, I won't be offended. I'm genuinely curious about where people stand on this.

  Kelly

Ok, my reply got eaten...
I said "Yes, it's ridiculous.
Your work is great & nothing to be ashamed of.  If the other models have done similar work & are trashing you, it's likely jealousy.
I find Onxy's comments that glamour=porn amusing.  It reminds me of people I've run in to at art shows who say B&Ws are art & color isn't.
I agree with the other folks who say get new friends.
And as far as dating models who pose nude, my only second thought would be 'What the hell is SHE doing with ME??'
So go on with your life & don't sweat the haters & idioits  "

Kelly Kooper wrote:
Now the obvious answer to this is no and how ridiculous for someone to assume that because you take on a sexy persona in photos, you also have little to no morals...

...The first being to the togs - In your personal life, would you think twice about dating a model that shot nude images?

I don't care one bit about whether a model has posed nude, but I will never date someone with morals.  I am sick to death of morals.  Everyone's are different and they are all based on a lot of self-righteous BS to make some people feel superior to others.

-Dave

Christopher Wright  wrote:

LOL. I didn't realize I knew so many bitches.

Me either! :-p

mphot wrote:
We live in a world here in the US where we  have many  open minded individuals and  a minority of those with closed puritan,  narrow minded ethics.  The latter see see things differently because of their miserable guilt ridden lives. They are to be pitied and often need psychiatric help. They don't see beauty in the naked  female form, but lust and fear of  being led astray. That big ruckus about entertainer Janet Jackson showing a nipple on stage& TV  for 2 seconds was  an evidence of a ridiculous happening. It is a very sick society that feels it has to protest over such a minor incident.   If you have a beautiful, youthful body...thank your lucky stars...flaunt it .... and if your friends still think you are a slut..you are in the wrong company. Let them grovel in their pitiful obsessions of envy and guilt.

Well said.

theresa bailey wrote:
i woudn't say that that topless is a "sexy persona," because thats past sexy, thats something else. At the same time a woman should think before she takes a topless or nude picture because a picture does say a thousand words and when people don't know you and are exposed to images of you either topless or nude they jump to conclusions based on the ideas this society has about nudity and woman who are willing to expose their private parts in public places. th fact is that a great majority are going to see you as a slut when you take those types of pictures, and if you're ok with taking that type of heat, go for it. if you're concerned people might get the wrong message, which some undoubtedly will, abstain from that type of work. also, it's the atmosphere in which the pic was taken, situationally, etc., for example, i saw nerlande's online portfolio and was amazed at how gracefully she pulls nudity off and having showed it to my conservative, church going mom, she sang nerlande praises. at the same time there are others who are just naked for the sake of "here's my great boobs, or boob job," and we'll be like what a slut!

Here is the big question I have. Why give a SHIT what ANYONE else ESPECIALLY those who you will probably NEVER meet think about you? Shit for that matter why care at all what ANYONE thinks of you who doesn't take the time to get to know you?

Why care at ALL about what someone else thinks about you period. If you are not doing anything to them they can go do obscene things to themselves. Not worth your time worrying about it. Get your money, do your job, and have fun.

Theresa it is exactly that type of thinking that makes people like you and your conservative church going mom part of the problem of this country. You want to judge someone without getting the facts. Maybe the models you mentioned that you call sluts are showing their breasts because they actually have nice breasts. Or maybe they are doing certain types of photos because it fullfills something inside of them. Or maybe they're doing it just because they WANT to do it. But here's the question for you. Did you ever stop to think that there are those who would look at your profile here and say the SAME thing about YOU even though you aren't nude? Because they are out there.

It is really time that the US grows the hell up and stops putting stigmas on everything that steps outside their imposed religious thinking. And actually THINK for themselves for once. And if they can't do that then simply accept that there are people with a different way of doing things. And different viewpoints (THANKFULLY) and move on.

Kelly Kooper wrote:
Hi guys,

Now the obvious answer to this is no and how ridiculous for someone to assume that because you take on a sexy persona in photos, you also have little to no morals. Because I've recently done a topless shoot and been very proud of the photos, I'm obviously against this idea but I'm of a few in my group of friends unfortunately. Although they say they don't feel that way about me, I've shown them other models who have done similar work to mine and they're first thoughts were 'Yeah, she looks like the type to sleep around'. I have a few questions on this. The first being to the togs - In your personal life, would you think twice about dating a model that shot nude images? And to the models - do you, in any way, look down on girls that have done topless/nude photos? Please be honest, I won't be offended. I'm genuinely curious about where people stand on this.

  Kelly

Well, first, we're not 'togs', we're photographers, a tog is a piece of clothing.

Posing nude/topless does not = slut.  If your friends think you are, though they don't say, they're not your friends.  My ex-wife was a nude model when we first started dating.  Then we go married and she posed a few more times, I had no problem with it, but she felt guilty doing it and being married, so she stopped.  If your friends pass judgement and say (or think) you're a slut for posing topless or nude, they're not really your friends then.

msonyxorb wrote:

to who? a man like that is a freaking loser , an std infested skank, and undatable in my book

double standards only exist to the people who think them and judge in that manner

Exactly and on the male end, guys may joke and laugh about their buddies being a real stud for doing that crap, in reality, we think they're nothing more than dogs.

Jeff Marsh wrote:
Indecisive, you are right on the money!
By the way, has that park been turned into a shrine yet?

No No not yet, I will be making a visit this summer though, care to be the photog?

Ched wrote:
Depends on the slut, I guess. There are many levels of sluttiness.




/reaching for trashcan lid to use as a shield....

LOL... *fires an arrow*

Kelly Kooper wrote:
In your personal life, would you think twice about dating a model that shot nude images? And to the models - do you, in any way, look down on girls that have done topless/nude photos? Please be honest, I won't be offended. I'm genuinely curious about where people stand on this.

  Kelly

I would, and have, dated women who have done topless/nude images.  Honestly, I applaud any woman who can break out of the repressed mode of thought society has driven into us over the years, and show how beautiful they are.  Not to mention the sheer courage it takes for some to do such a thing.

Hell, here in canada, (or at least in ontario) it's actually legal for a woman to go topless in public if she wants.  I've only ever met one woman who was brave enough to do it (and I married her).  Being proud of, and comfortable with your  body is a thing to aspire to, not look down on.

aeislugh wrote:

Kelly Kooper wrote:
In your personal life, would you think twice about dating a model that shot nude images? And to the models - do you, in any way, look down on girls that have done topless/nude photos? Please be honest, I won't be offended. I'm genuinely curious about where people stand on this.

  Kelly

I have dated a few guys - all in which don't want to be with someone who does "nudes"....
Never would I look down upon anyone that does nudes, topless - anything of that sort.. If anything i'd look up higher.

Jeff Marsh wrote:
Sign me up Indecisive!!!
to me a slut shows her true colors after the shoot, NOT by virture of having done the shoot.

I'm not even sure I know what a slut is - to someone, somewhere - i'm sure I am one... To the 'slut' I am probably not...  Silly thinking processes I hope I have better things to think about than that...

And umm - yes I will sign you up.. YOu'll have to come up to Winnipeg though (it's hot in the summer, no snow!) lol

Shyly wrote:
I think people are willfully ignoring the grain of truth that gets turned into the slut accusation.  While I don't believe that posing nude or semi-nude means someone is a slut, it commonly does indicate a certain level of sexual and bodily confidence.  That can be awkward to look at for people who aren't as self-assured.  Hence the finger pointing.

You're right Shyly, and part of the reason for the use of hurtful & demeaning terms like "slut," especially as directed at women, is to try & supress & destroy that confidence out of a fear of the woman's sexuality.
Sad.

Anthony Wallace wrote:
without reading anyones responses, and only going off the question... in most cases.. yes

Well, you know what they say about opinions...Does this mean the models you've shot & reference in your profile who've posed nude, as well as the lady you have a shot of who's topless but for a hand, are all sluts?

Nemi wrote:
I got called a slut yesterday for my pictures...Soon followed by another person in the same car calling me a whore.

This is how we deal with them....ready?

Oh cool, you own a cluehammer!