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I won't pose nude but...........
All feminist indignation and claptrap aside it would probably be a good idea to actually read the original post. Some points that for some reason seemingly must be swept aside are - The photographer is not the one who instigated the interaction. The photographer who has nudes in his port is sent an email containing nudes from a model asking to work together. I really don't see how this is so hard to understand. Someone who comes to me for a paying job does not dictate what the duties of that job will be. If you know what I am hiring for, why on earth would you want to be hired if you don't want to do what the job entails? I don't call my electerician to come out and fix a plugged drain. And then get pissy with him to boot when he won't and wants to know why I wasted his time. It comes down to models who think they have more rights than the rights that come in the normal business world. That or they think they are doing some kind of missionary work by modeling and accepting pay for it. Or as someone put it - Michael Longeneker wrote: Saying one thing and acting in another is at the very least dishonesty in my book. Mar 05 06 01:46 pm Link Kristin Anne wrote: I have been snickered. Mar 06 06 08:57 am Link SKPhoto wins the award for Most Times I Slapped My Hand To My Forehead In Disbelief In A Single Post for this week. Mar 06 06 09:41 am Link This is so ridiculous. The only important and relevant responses to the ORIGINAL posting have been stated. 1) They mean "I'll pose nude when I want to, but not with you." 2) Model's don't OWE you anything based on what they may or may not already have in their port. All the other side comments analogies and arguments presented are off base and venturing off topic. Sure it might be a misnomer of sorts to state plainly "I don't do nudes" when there's nudes already in a person's port. However, is it really that difficult to understand that most likely they left out the word 'anymore'? Sure they could say "I do nudes selectively, and that would be perfectly stated. But come one man, act like you have half a brain. Regardless of how it's stated, you know what they mean, and if they're WANT to do them with you, they will. Sounds like a whole lotta people are catching feelings over the fact that a model won't do nudes with them specifically, in which case my only response can be... step your game up. lol Mar 07 06 07:54 am Link wow. "i pay, i own your ass" LOL i see that's worked wonders for you so far... maybe if some of you photographers wouldn't treat models like prostitutes "i pay i own your ass" then some models would think you actually respected them...and then maybe they'll respect you as a photographer...do you see where this is going? and i do find it disturbing that some of you guys get pissed when a model, who has nudes in her port, says "i don't do nudes" so what?!? or maybe it's just an ego thing? like she posed nude for some other dude and now won't do it for you? like she's obligated?!? Mar 07 06 10:17 am Link Sean Armenta wrote: word. that is everything I was trying to say. all of this kinda reminds me of photographers who say they don't TFP...yet will shoot certain girls they like for free?? ho hum.... Mar 07 06 10:23 am Link Holy cow, threads like this make me glad I only do porn, where everything is upfront and this kind of nonsense dosen't ever happen. I really don't know how the rest of you get anything accomplished with flakes who think it's their right to say one thing and do another while actually meaning something else. Sheesh. Mar 07 06 11:15 am Link Sean Armenta wrote: too funny... JH wrote: Exactly my thoughts, I'm starting a thread on this topic. Mar 07 06 01:16 pm Link I won't pose nude but...........I would pose with Yanni. Mar 07 06 01:34 pm Link Melvin Moten Jr wrote: You took it from my tongue, Melvin. WTF... Mar 07 06 01:38 pm Link I have run into the same situation..where on their profile they say no nudes but I ended up doing nudes. I dont assume anything before a shoot, but I can tell you that minds do change once they are comfortable with the situation. Firstly I respect wishes and am flattered when they express that they have no problem doing partial or full nudes. Many models that will do nudes choose not to post this on their profiles, but rather save that decision when they shoot. At the same time the photographer must understand dont expect nudes because she has shown some on her profile... Mar 07 06 01:52 pm Link Sean Armenta wrote: Just to tell the truth bro- thats all. Mar 07 06 01:52 pm Link MONEY TALKS. BS Mar 07 06 01:55 pm Link Mar 07 06 01:56 pm Link I feel your pain.... This is very similar to my recent MM forum post of models asking for work then not responding to emails?! WHAT GIVES?! For those that say...."No nudes!" yet have nudes in their portfolio.....I recommend that you elect to post other images.... ones consistent with the type of work you are looking for in a photo shoot. THAT won't cause any confusion. If they do....we might be the fools for wanting to use these models. They are obviously flakes! I had an hour long chat session with a model yesterday. I asked her if she wanted to shoot today. She said YES but only if it was a paid shoot. It was! I spent an hour showing her sample ideas for the shoot, discussing location, time frame, set-up, etc. THEN she proceeds to tell me that she has already taken Mon. and Tues. off from work and promised them that she would be at work today and that she probably should go to work instead. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! Ugh! Just be honest or not misleading.....that's all. Simple common sense...... Mar 08 06 09:29 am Link bottom line a model will shoot anything she wants with you, as long as she WANTS to. matters not what images she has up already. it's just that simple. Mar 10 06 09:49 am Link I was just asking myself this question while lookin at a model's profile Mar 11 06 10:10 pm Link Palm Coast Photography wrote: Hey Eric, Mar 20 06 11:10 am Link Michaela wrote: Spoken from the heart...our blog comments will stay online forever...heaven help any of the MM'ers (us) who speak their minds, then look for a corporate gig...on the other hand, I have my own company...life's good. 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