Ian Weintraub wrote:
what i want to know is why won't they have sex with me after the shoot... especially if I've paid them?? Hookers do it.  What makes models so special?

Yes. And they should also serve us a cold beer, poured in a glass

Looknsee Photography wrote:

Let's see...

What's the average age of a model on MM?  I'd say early 20s.

What percentage of MM models are full time models?  I'd guess less than 5%. 

That implies that we are talking about very young people who are probably working jobs close to minimum wage; many of these models are full time students, implying that they work part time, if at all.

So, my guess is ...

   >>>  They don't have a lot of disposable cash to spare.
   >>>  There's plenty of TFP/TFCD or paying jobs.
   >>>  Hiring a photographer isn't worth their time or money.

If you are a photographer, you won't make a living being hired by models.

Thank you, that is a very good point. If you are a good photographer you wont need to make money from charging models.

Malchow Photography wrote:
...I want to know why so many if not most models feel that they don't have to pay for anything...

Why should they? Most "models" don't have any money anyway. What makes our time any more or less valuable than their time, and vise versa?

Photographers and models should help each other. Most photographers don't have much money either. Good material and exposure to opportunities are far more valuable than paying $100 for a photo lap dance.

It's the customer who is supposed to pay, then it's shared between the photographer and model.

We should not be customers of each other. Not if we are in this for real.

Besides, I like my photo lap dances for free. It gladdens my heart.

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Iona Lynn wrote:
Just because I have sex with a man, does not mean he deserves to be poured a beer.

IONA!  ... I'm waiting for you!!

I'll pour the beer for you!

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Malchow Photography wrote:

Thanks for the laugh, but this is (at least to me) a very important, if genrealized question. It isn't about sex, or your sexual escapades...I want to know why so many if not most models feel that they don't have to pay for anything...

Because there are photographers out there that lead us to believe that is the case. There are many talented photographers who are willing to pay us or do TFCD, so why should we pay for a service if we dont have to? Now I am NOT saying that I do this. I have paid a couple of photographers for great work. However...models (and photographers) will do what they are already getting away with! People in general..if they can get something for nothing...they will!!!!!

craig wrote:
mac vs. pc

canon vs. nikon

model vs. photographer

yawn...

l.a. vs. new york

Eddie's vs. Nana's

EDIT: models vs. stylists

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elisaveta ♀ wrote:

l.a. vs. new york

Eddie's vs. Nana's

Elisaveta's vs. Elizaveta's

UdoR wrote:
Elisaveta's vs. Elizaveta's

To kick your A$$ vs. not to kick your A$$