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I have recently gotten into a lil heated confrontation with another model on MM...seems kinda cocky to me in all the ways possible.... So opinion time....let me know your aspects...whats the difference between someone being COCKY and someone with CONFIDENCE... Funny thing is ...someone told me to get the chip off my shoulder ..but when i looked nothing was there  Feb 20 06 10:00 pm Link well i was always of the opinion that male models can be cocky, while female models can get cocky Feb 20 06 10:05 pm Link CristinaLex wrote: How the person on the other end interprets your actions/conversation. Feb 20 06 10:08 pm Link Just me, but a cocky individual has to tell you how wonderful they are... A confident person knows they good at what they do and lets their work speak for them, not their mouth.. Or, cocky is about bringing people down to their level, confidence is helping people rise to your level... Feb 20 06 10:10 pm Link DeBoer Photography wrote: In a sense of saying something that i felt about and typing it in a way that i talk...home gurl comes in and tried to act classy as if she is better than every normal person tha types on MM...basically saying "i have no class because thats not how professional models talk or act.." hello wench ...we are in a forum people have more hostile personalities than i do...it really ticked me off... Feb 20 06 10:11 pm Link Chili wrote: Damn, you beat me to the punchline... oh well... *smirk*... now where are those cocky models at... i mean, um... *cough*... Feb 20 06 10:12 pm Link Girls get Bitchy Guys get Cocky. So it was when my Mama told me bout Confident Birds and Bees. E L Feb 20 06 10:15 pm Link Those with confidence demonstrate their abilities, those who are cocky run their mouths about what they perceive as their abilities. Feb 20 06 10:17 pm Link Since you asked all of us. . .I'll add my two cents and pick up my dollar in change (y'all will get that later on. . .don't let it bug you right now). From what you said here: CristinaLex wrote: It seems like she may be somewhat of a snob. Not necessarily "cocky". . .unless you are equating the two which happen to be two different things. What she said in my opinion, in essence made you feel like she was calling you low class. . .which is snobbish. If she had said something like "you ain't shit" or "your work ain't half as good as mine so you're no competition for me" or something like that. . .that would have been cocky. Feb 20 06 11:09 pm Link Confidence to me its not letting people know you are confident, but for them to see it without you even needing to say a word. Keeping a casual confident silence to you will you will make you more interesting and want people to know more about you. The "I know I am confident but dont need to bring it up" silence is a lot more intimidating. :-) Feb 20 06 11:16 pm Link REMEMBER! We are on the computer - unless emoticons ;>) are being used or lingo like LMAO, then what is interpreted as being cocky (MMMMM - I always found that to be a good thing - tee hee - see what I mean ` depending on who that is of course)) can really be confidence. Just a thought. Best wishes Cassone Feb 20 06 11:18 pm Link Bill Cosby said something to the effect of "Little dogs will yap non-stop trying to convince you they are tough.....Big dogs just go "grrrrrrrrr".." Feb 20 06 11:30 pm Link Feb 20 06 11:33 pm Link for me, cocky is a model that is starting out, has no tearsheets in their book and is giving me attitude or wanting to 'charge me" for a photoshoot (yeah this happens here) Confident is a model who wants photos and is willing to work hard and together with the photographer to work on a concept or a shoot, they no what they want, no what their book is missing and isn't just talking about it, but actually doing something about it. Feb 21 06 12:27 am Link To me... there's a BIG difference between being a 'confident' model and a 'cocky' model... I've dealt with 100's of models... believe me when I tell you that I can DEFINITELY see the difference. If a model comes off with a major tude and is overly cocky to me... SHE'S HISTORY! I hire models for our events that are friendly, sincere, punctual, unique, cordial, dependable, talented and genuine... all traits that DONT jive with being cocky...  Feb 21 06 12:47 am Link A cocky person on the Internet..... SAY It AIN'T SOOOOOO! Sorry... but we find cocky people everywhere we go. Sometimes cocky works in a persons advantage, sometimes it hurts... it's more of... knowing of when cockiness is appropriate. Alright... all of this talk of... well.... nevermind.... Sincerely and respectfully, Peter J. Foster Feb 21 06 12:54 am Link im cocky but in a good way. Feb 21 06 12:56 am Link Confidence is attractive. Psychosis is more attractive. Cockiness as you've defined it is ugly. -Don Feb 21 06 01:19 am Link CristinaLex wrote: You see THIS underneath is arrogant in my book..not cocky. Look ms..boogie... dont get beside yourself and get it ...I have more class than u do in ur whole malnutritioned body...have a nice nite pe@ce Feb 21 06 02:40 am Link Aspects... Cocky: Bragging about how many shoots a model's done, ranting non-stop about personal beauty and that he/she should get the highest pay for shoots (regardless of experience), not showing up for photo shoots (motive behind this, not exactly sure, but still a cocky move nonetheless), models that show up to shoots (heard this from plenty of photographers) and appearing as though they ate about 20 pans of lasagna over the past few days, that sort of thing, basically not being at your best or not being presentable. Confident: Being humble about shoots, discussing pros and cons, being helpful to other models with questions, understanding one's beauty and yet not rubbing it in everyone's face, understanding that a large majority of models don't make a lot of money in the beginning, but willing to work for little if any money at all to get somewhere in the industry, and being presentable for every shoot, as well as actually showing up, and/or calling at least 24 hours prior to let the photographer know they cannot make it, and then of course, simply having a nice personality, rather than someone who comes off as uncaring and unconcerned with anyone, save for themselves. I guess that's just my opinion, I may or may not be right, but it's just what I think. Have a lovely day! Stacey Leigh~ Feb 21 06 02:52 am Link D. Brian Nelson wrote: Yes, I love you too....in that unhealthy stalkerish kind of way....oh, this is about COCKY models, not CREEPY models... Feb 21 06 02:56 am Link if you got the work, pix, agent, bookings, etc. to back up what you have to say....it's confidence. Feb 21 06 03:15 am Link Dear Cristina; I don't think that this post is quite fair to her. Don't forget, you were the first one becoming offensive and continued it throughout the post, even your last post in that thread is very condescending. You have to remember, "keeping it real" doesn't mean that you have to drop all social conventions and just type as you want, expecting others not to react. Toodles Udo Feb 21 06 05:11 am Link UdoR wrote: yes, and to those of you who want to know, she is talking about me and referring to this thread: CristinaLex wrote: p.s. before you start trying to get people to talk about me without them knowing, maybe you should let them know what is really going on, k? Feb 21 06 06:20 am Link Maybe the OP would have a better handle on who was cocky if they had met said models/photographers in person first. Whining in another forum doesn't change anything. If you don't like someones attitude, just walk away from them, don't keep pointing fingers it makes you look bad. Feb 21 06 09:30 am Link Tawny is totally correct. Feb 21 06 09:39 am Link But great PR for the two of you!!! MEOW!!! HISS!!! CAT FIGHT!!! (i'll throw the chairs) crazyisabela youre cute Feb 21 06 09:42 am Link D. Brian Nelson wrote: counterintelligence w grandkids in new jersey and old tank parts are magnetic. Feb 21 06 09:43 am Link i'm really disappointed. i thought this was going to be a sex related thread. Feb 21 06 09:43 am Link Keith aka Wolfie wrote: Well said!!! Feb 21 06 09:44 am Link Feb 21 06 09:44 am Link Lapis wrote: come on over and do the twist, boys n girls Feb 21 06 09:44 am Link UdoR wrote: the dangers of keep'n it real Feb 21 06 09:45 am Link Oh gosh there are loads of characters like that on here we have: cocky bitchy opinionated annoying shy stupid confident outragous thats just to name a few.. maybe she did not mean it in the way you took it but then again i did not see the conversation so i don't know how i would take it. Probably with a pinch of salt. remember hun no one really knows you here and all could be a front to hide their inner own insecurities. You never know it could be somebody completly different to what you see before you someone who has been bullied at school and likes to moan about other people because deep down secretly she wishes to have your class style body looks everything about and the way you talk... don't worry about it and be you hehehe **salutes** xx shelly Feb 21 06 09:47 am Link Bruce Caines wrote: *Dashed visions of Bruce being the Enlightened One...* Feb 21 06 09:48 am Link Mayanlee wrote: lmao Feb 21 06 09:49 am Link CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT...*runs to get camcorder* Feb 21 06 09:51 am Link shelly1982 wrote: i'll be "stupid"! :-) Feb 21 06 09:52 am Link hahaha nahh hun you are outragous!! Feb 21 06 09:55 am Link BCG wrote: I saw that one a long time ago... it's really funny... love it... thanks for the link! Feb 21 06 10:01 am Link |
