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you know...in the late 1800s/early 1900s, it was quite in vogue for people to take photos of the dead to carry around with them...moms, dads, even babies were painted up to seem lifelke/sleeping, then photographed as mementoes. in this day and age, we would shudder at the idea (i think) of carrying around with us a snapshot of a dead infant...it's all a matter of perspective (no pun intended), i think. that being said, i would hope that if someone is shooting in a cemetery, that all respect would be paid, not just for the dead, but for the living mourners that are left behind. one man's background is another man's grief. Jun 17 05 08:12 am Link Petra, Great post. A great book on language that can tell much of how each of us may view the world differently is the book "That is not what I meant". I will have to find the author. but many societies and cultures even neighborhoods speak and act differently. There is rudeness, insensitivity, and worse but there is overly political correctness to handicap the world. Balance. My grandfather begged for photos of his wife as she was laid down. Begged. I have a cemetary joke that my father use to tell me but I am too tired to write in English. Maybe morrow. Jun 17 05 08:21 am Link Posted by Mary: Mary I was answering your question "how would you feel if you saw or knew that a photo shoot of any kind were taking place on your loved ones grave site while you slept?" Jun 17 05 08:41 am Link Posted by theda: Posted by Mary: Mary I was answering your question "how would you feel if you saw or knew that a photo shoot of any kind were taking place on your loved ones grave site while you slept?" More important question is "How would Mary know if she was really sleeping?" Jun 17 05 09:49 am Link Posted by *!photofashion!*: Guess what? Jun 17 05 01:58 pm Link Jun 17 05 02:00 pm Link Look, Either you believe in an afterlife or not. If you do, then you must believe in spirits, if you don't, then who cares anyway.... Back to the Do's If you beleive in spirits, (whether they be ghost or angels, etc..) then I guess it comes down to, do you truly believe. Because If They were shooting nudes on my grave, And I was a ghost, I would be all over the model.... Other Ghosts would screw up the shot or haunt the shooter etc..... :-P My point is this, There is no point. If you do not like it, Boycott it. Do not buy images of people in Cemetaries. Do not watch MJ's Thriller Video Do not watch and scary movie that has a cemetary in it Do not get brochures for cemetaries... Whatever. But please, Be decent and do not try to force your believes or views on others. Others think it is art, they have that right, no law broken, no harm, no foul! :-) Just my 8.5 cents worth (I know I am expensive!!!) Jun 17 05 02:20 pm Link When I die. You are all invited to dance on my grave. Hell... Bring a keg. I will have them install a beer bong on my casket! My headstone will have a Swiss Arca B1G head mounted on it so you guys won't have to haul tripods all the way there. Just remember your arca plates. ;-) ~~PC~~ Jun 17 05 02:28 pm Link when I die, My instructions are quite specific. I am to be cremated, Then My urn is to be buried in a hole and an evergreen tree is to be planted on top of it. (the lid is to be open) In this way, My body, and my spirit will reside in the tree forever (or until some freaking woodpecker or insects destroy my new home.... Or some idiot with a chain saw.) So, If you want to dance on my grave, have at, otherwise, I think I am going to have animals and such as companions..... Can you guess my religion? Jun 17 05 02:35 pm Link Posted by petra: My dad had my dead cat stuffed once... That was kind of weird... Jun 17 05 03:04 pm Link Posted by Ty Simone: I want to be cremated too... but I want my urn to sit on top of the TV so that I can weird people out even in death... Jun 17 05 03:05 pm Link Posted by Hugh Jorgen ?: My dad is kind of an in the closet perve... a couple of chicks wouldn't do it for him... he'd want at least five... Jun 17 05 03:09 pm Link OK, I'll admit I'm a bit twisted... But really if you want to look at it in an extreme, Everyplace is a grave yard, Over the millions of years lots of things have died where ever. Now the disrespect thing is coulturely based off an individuals localised coultures. To this day, Aboriginal tribes in Austrailia, Lay their dead in caves, the children play with the bone of the ancestors. The Catacombs under France that many teens and college students break into and play and party are The original catacombs, the clay is centuries of decomposed bodies. National Geographic, has a pictorial some year back where a dozen college kids where nude and did war paint with the clay. Sever Cathedrals in europe have been decorated with human Bones because the crypts were too full and the needed to make room. THese are very beautiful, National Geographic has both magazine and TV documentaries on them. I know people that have human bone decorative items, picked up where ever, these items where gifts from tribal peoples from various parts of the world. So to me shooting, partying, having sex/orgies in a grave yard is not disrespectful. Its a reminder of life. Now people carving up/breaking the tomb stone/markers yea thats a no-no... But then look at the indian burial grounds that have been bulldozed in the name of development comunity/hiway/shopping mall... Not saying its right just a reminder that it's been done and a lot of people don't care bout that, but god help them if some hot babe is gettin pictures of her boobies taken over uncle bubba's grave... Jun 17 05 09:50 am Link Posted by William Herbert: Jun 17 05 09:38 pm Link Posted by petra: Check out James Van Der Zee's "The Harlem Book of the Dead." Jun 17 05 11:16 pm Link I'm all for live and let live, but personally/artistically, I'm rather turned off by the whole goth/vamp thing and find black lipstick boring. So, I wouldn't shoot that kind of stuff in a cemetary or anywhere else, not even for pay. I think the disrespect issue comes down to a matter of interpretation based on the type of photos taken in a cemetary. I'd love to try some classy artistic nudes in one. Any willing models with cemetary connections out there? Jun 17 05 11:28 pm Link I ahve shot in a cemetary and the whole I was respectful and never turned over headstones and such. But when I die, I'm going to be cremated and my ashes will be with my love ones. But if a model ever wanted to do a shoot with my urn, I'd be cool with it. Jun 18 05 06:36 am Link Thatâs why living in America has its perks...freedom to do "whatever" you like. Sometimes there are limitations, but those can be wiggled through as well. I enjoy expressing myself and feel goth/vamp is another areas for those willing to venture and express them self. That's their choice. Yesterday I talked to this minister and we discussed religion. He was so set on making me believe he was right about Jesus Christ and God. Ironically, with over 6 billion people on the planet, are all those that do not believe in Christ going to Hell? I didn't think so. Com'on folks, this world is too big and folks are so sure that their beliefs are right. We all can't be wrong and no one is entirely right. Jun 18 05 07:00 am Link I have no problem with cemetaries, in fact I plan on shooting in one later on today. As long as a person respects the rules of the cemetary and respect the headstones then it is perfectly fine with me. If a cemetary is big try to make sure that you stay far away from a funeral as possible or just wait until they are finished. Just in case some people are wondering the cemetary I will be at for my photoshoot today is a really old one in Huntsville, AL. In fact I have been to that cemetary on many school fieldtrips years ago. Jun 18 05 07:18 am Link Talking about my side of the street, huh? LOL!! Since everyone doesn't have access to an old Victorian mansion or a Scottish castle, an old cemetery is the best access to Gothic-style architecture. Beautiful old mausoleums can add so much to the photo and become the central focus of the pic in some cases. But, agreeing with Theda's earlier post, the weeping vixen on the tombstone has been done-to-death, (pun intended). Let's try for a little creativity, people!!! hahaha And no, I take no offense as long as vandalism isn't involved. - CH Jun 18 05 07:47 am Link Posted by Eric Muss-Barnes: I wanna get to know your God too.....cus she sounds like she`s lot`s of fun and very Kool Jun 19 05 01:48 am Link |
