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MarkMarek wrote: Unless the Make Up ARTIST creates art and you photograph it? Jan 26 06 11:34 pm Link Art elicits an emotional response. Any emotional response. Jan 26 06 11:37 pm Link David Moyle wrote: That's correct. I totally agree. But I suppose you know what I meant. My bad though, I focused and limited my definition of art to photography art only. I somehow assumed that's the art we're talking about here. Jan 26 06 11:42 pm Link Mikel Featherston wrote: this is like saying 'everything that has four legs is a dog' Jan 26 06 11:44 pm Link The Art of CIP wrote: I snagged the following off a forum some years back. Sorry, I didn't note the author. I read it occasionally and ponder whether it's genius or bullshit. My answer changes frequently. Jan 26 06 11:47 pm Link ashfromdash wrote: ... or anyone on all fours is Art Jan 26 06 11:53 pm Link This question of art is just like the one about the meaning of life where there isn't really one answer. The answer tends to be quite personal and varied (although many times it feels to me like people reply to it just out of a if not desperate need to fill in the blank space of dialogue). Artists use their work to explore and create (the ones I take seriously). So to me art is a process of that more than whatever you can quantify as the result of that process. So the work result can be a failure. It can be a piece of shit. But as a result of the process, it is still art. It doesn't need to be successful or beautiful -- whatever those ideas mean to you. Jan 26 06 11:55 pm Link Art is highly NON-commercial but grabs ya by the cahones and make you look into its face and say AHHHHHHHH!!!!!  Jan 27 06 12:07 am Link Art is a shared emotionally perceived reality. It can be any kind of media that involves sensory stimuli, but since it must be shared in full by each participant, food can only be a medium if it used strictly for visual, touch, or odiforous effect. If you see it and all you get is a desire to go to another piece, the art was bad. If you are still talking about the item 2 days after you experienced it, the art was good. Jan 27 06 12:11 am Link The Art of CIP wrote: ***Danger Will Robinson! Danger!*** Jan 27 06 12:23 am Link Mikel Featherston wrote: Dog crap on the ground elicits an emotional response if I step in it. Jan 27 06 12:27 am Link David Moyle wrote: Ha ha... Sounds alot like the art school story I wrote about earlier in this thread...! Jan 27 06 12:29 am Link MarkMarek wrote: Just screwin with ya! Jan 27 06 12:29 am Link The Art of CIP wrote: Somehow I missed it the first time through! Good story! Jan 27 06 12:32 am Link David Moyle wrote: Yeah it was great - dude you woulda' been rolling on the floor... That was one of those moments that added to my views of art... i really don't care what art is - it'll define itself.. All I know is I have a blast making it!!! Jan 27 06 12:38 am Link I have to take off, soon. I thought I'd throw in my two cents before I leave. I hope I'm not echoing sombody else's idea on art. I didn't get to read all the posts. Click Hamilton wrote: I consider this quite easy. Art is anything created by man. Architecture, automobiles and even toilets were all created by some sort of artisan. Be it captured by camera, paint brush, pencil , pen clay, porcelin or mud, art is art. Not all art is to be appreciated by everybody and some art is just everyday useful stuff, as in a table on which we eat. There are just many different forms of art. Who would hang a chiar on a wall, well, other than the Amish. Jan 27 06 12:57 am Link Wow your work is really interesting! Jan 27 06 01:02 am Link MarkMarek wrote: David Moyle wrote: MarkMarek wrote: I honestly don't know what you meant. What you're saying is that a makeup artist can create art, but a photograph of a model in makeup is not art. Is that correct? Jan 27 06 01:49 am Link ART is a naked chick shot on film in black and while that does not look like an export car girl, or a stripper / porn star, that you can sell a print of for $1800 +. Jan 27 06 04:37 am Link Stacy wrote: Hey, thanks for having a look at my stuff. I really appreciate it. Jan 27 06 05:55 am Link John Pringle wrote: Art has Big Guts! Art takes Risks and it's not always in league with popular taste and is created and exhists without the primary need to turn a profit. Somewhere else here I saw the words organic and Believe at it best it's also that too,when a work becomes too measured or mechanical that often makes it staid or stiff. Jan 27 06 06:42 am Link Art provokes emotion: hate, lust, envy to name a few... Art is what drives a select few of us... Art balances the "normalcy" of a dayjob... Art gives life to my inner thoughts... Art is my addiction, my life... for examples of what i'm talking about check MM#23527 Jan 27 06 06:54 am Link For me art is a feeling, statement, or comparison. My art reflects my life. Not everyone gets the same feeling or the intended statement all the time. When I show, If people just walk by my images then I failed somewhere. If they stop and look, it doesn't really matter if they love it or hate it, it's the reaction. If it's somewhere in the middle, I've failed. Statements like "What was he thinking!" or "He must have been off his meds when he took that one" are just as successful for me as the statements "that rocks", or "that's beautiful". On the technical side, there are very specific boundries that I won't go past. The last one being I don't shoot anything my x-wife or my children would be humiliated to have other people see. Those are simply my rules, no one elses. I am curious to see what history has to write about this period and art. Jan 27 06 08:19 am Link Tom Lezniak wrote: And this is why I've come to the conclusion I have about what is art and what is an artist. Nihilus wrote: Please don't say "I know it when I see it"...if you do that you're being wishy washy... Art is much more worthy of definition than that and so are artists. Jan 27 06 08:43 am Link Click Hamilton wrote: super FREEKIN' cooool! Jan 27 06 08:48 am Link Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep. Scott Adams Jan 27 06 08:51 am Link Art is the intercourse between artist and audience. Jan 27 06 09:14 am Link "a visual object or experience consciously created through an expression of skill or imagination." Encyclopedia Britannica says it better than I could. Eric Foltz Jan 27 06 09:43 am Link ashfromdash wrote: Far more than a cliché Jan 27 06 09:46 am Link blon wrote: Michelangelo said "It's a sorry Artist who once you return all the parts of his work to the original owners you are left with nothing of the artist himself." I have also long held the view that what makes Art Great is not how the artist adopts all his strengths but how he deals with his weaknesses! Art is about making a Statement/Antagonizm not all this wish wash banter here saying the same things I said a different way right after me without concurrence or with an echo. Jan 27 06 09:46 am Link David Moyle wrote: .... and some people stick a crucifix in it to find deeper artistic meaning. Jan 27 06 09:51 am Link Stacy wrote: AllenA wrote: Haha .. Allen. That was a nice diversionary plug of shameless self promotion. Jan 27 06 09:56 am Link GOTHICHANGMAN STUDIOS wrote: awwwww .... shucks. Jan 27 06 10:07 am Link AllenA wrote: The second one that was mentioned not art reminds me of something I did two years ago Jan 27 06 10:09 am Link I go with, in its most basic form, art is fundamentally unneccessary. Any action that doesn't stem from the simple logistical requirements of the situation. If I'm making an Excel spreadsheet for work, and I use fonts and colors to make the sheet more readable, that's craft. If I use fonts and colors because I just feel like it, that's art. If I manage to do that in a way that does not detract from the readability of the document, that's aesthetic. Or, another way, anything that can't be traced back to the basic instinct for survival. If I do it because I'm getting paid, it's not art. The extent to which I modify it to make it more likely that I will get paid, or get paid more, makes it less art. The extent that I modify it to either ignore the fact that I am getting paid, or make it less likely that I would get paid, makes it more art. That's a simplification and watered-down version. But the more something is done in order to provide income, shelter, protection, sex, respect, reputation, etc., the less 'artistic' it is. The more something is done for its own sake, regardless of the externals, the more 'artistic' it is. Skipping down the street instead of walking, for example. When people talk about the 'art and science' of a given subject, it tends to imply that many things are governed by rules (science) but also improved by intangibles (art). Or perhaps, the science aspect governs rules that are metric, objective, written and understood, while the art aspect governs rules that are abstract, subjective, unwritten and felt. But rules, nonetheless. Jan 27 06 10:23 am Link ashfromdash wrote: Good point. Let me modify... Art is something intended to elicit some emotional response. There has to be some desire on the part of the creator. Jan 27 06 02:52 pm Link Art is pretty much anything. "Art photography" is pretty much anything not done for a client. Your personal opinion of what is art may vary, and there is little consensus. In the lead photo, what that photographer was taking a picture of, was not art, most likely. The _picture_ of the photographer taking the picture in the train station is art. BTW: We shot a model in the #1 IRT up and down broadway 20+ years ago. About a year or two before the Prince did the same thing in London (?). It was published, and I'm looking for the negs to put one or two in my portfolio here. The story of how that shoot came about is even more interesting than the shoot. But in 1983, it was pretty "shocking" and came close to getting a few of us kicked out of school .... Up tight administration, rather than anything to do with anything else. Even the cops were cool  Nothing brightens up a NYPD's night than a nekkid lady making "art" on the subway And, actually, it was legal, sort of, by the letter of the law, since we weren't disturbing anyone. Memories...... Jan 27 06 03:01 pm Link I love art, but I love his brother better. (this is a canned line...) Jan 27 06 03:03 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: Hey, if that's their thing, who am I to judge! Jan 27 06 03:07 pm Link Digiography wrote: I now judge my images by observing which one my cat would pee on. Thanks Digiography. It may take a while for me to make art... Jan 27 06 03:11 pm Link |
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