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 Jan 26 06 06:07 pm Link wow what in interesting picture! Kudos  Jan 26 06 06:08 pm Link IsabelAurora wrote: Thanks Isabel. It's nice to get my first response from a beautiful model. I like your photos too! Jan 26 06 06:09 pm Link  Jan 26 06 06:11 pm Link You told me once when we shared that Mad Dog, but I forgot. -Don (you called me "Dan") Jan 26 06 06:13 pm Link Didn't that guy play one of the DJ characters on WKRP in Cincinnati? Jan 26 06 06:16 pm Link D. Brian Nelson wrote: Hahaha ... I remember! Jan 26 06 06:18 pm Link Gary Davis wrote: I was thinking the guy who found Laura Palmer's body in Twin Peaks. Jan 26 06 06:42 pm Link Oh look, he is in San Diego. I thought that trolley looked familiar  Jan 26 06 06:46 pm Link OK, I'm serious. What is ART? When I try to think about it my brain expands faster than my ability to comprehend then I get lost in the abyss Please help me narrow this down Jan 26 06 06:47 pm Link  Sorry, but I swapped out a beautiful nude photo with this car seat because I think I'm not allowed to show pubic hair in forum posts. You can see the photo that was supposed to be in this slot by going here: http://www.pbase.com/click_hamilton/image/55007474 Jan 26 06 06:47 pm Link Art is: That which moves, embodied/contained/captured within a sensory medium. ...what moves you? Jan 26 06 06:53 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: Art is something worthy of critique. If you can look at it and, being honest with yourself (very big key), not turn away from it without making a judgment of it...it is art. Jan 26 06 06:56 pm Link ahh... I can't describe it, but I know it when I see it? Art: http://www.dievee.be/ http://www.pbase.com/maryduprie/root NOT Art: http://home.att.net/~gregstones/axhum.htm http://www.imarc.net/blog/42/freakish_z … _11_steps/ But, you know.. this comes with that standard internet disclaimer: IMHO. Cheers, Allen Jan 26 06 07:18 pm Link AllenA wrote: You're letting yourself, and artists, off way to easy Allen. Jan 26 06 07:21 pm Link Art is saying, as Marley said in A Christmas Carol, "Humanity is my business!" Jan 26 06 07:56 pm Link Art is shooting what you want and F*ck everyone's opinion! As long as your having fun. Jan 26 06 07:57 pm Link Captured Live wrote: No...that's fun...not art... Jan 26 06 08:09 pm Link raveneyes wrote: It could be both. Jan 26 06 08:10 pm Link Ched wrote: *could* be...but saying to yourself "Fuck everyone else's opinion" takes the person saying it out of the realm of artist. An artist's goal is to make people notice their work...make something worth critiquing...if you're not doing that then why would you be considered an artist? Jan 26 06 08:13 pm Link ART - It's an acronym for "Arbitrary Reality Transformation" Jan 26 06 08:14 pm Link A sculptor once explained to me the difference between art and craft. Craft is something you can pee in, Art is something you can pee on. Hope this help, every time I think I've created art, I remember this and chuckle. Jan 26 06 08:15 pm Link Digiography wrote: Lol...that's a good one. Jan 26 06 08:19 pm Link I think it is interesting. But I have to bring in a bit of sillyness Might this thread also qualify as a non bondage "photographer in distress shot" since you are on tracks and a train is coming? Jan 26 06 08:23 pm Link Ched wrote: ha! jack nance was great - 'there's a FISH....in the PERCOLATOR!" Jan 26 06 08:26 pm Link Ched wrote: Christopher Bush wrote: rofl Jan 26 06 08:49 pm Link SO many answers to the question what is art.... ESPECIALLY in response to Raveneyes assertion about the NEED to critique.... Mel Brooks....History of the World (Part I) Sorry I'm having to paraphrase here...BUT...."Not long after man walked upright, there was the birth of art. Followed, logically by the AFTERBIRTH of art-the art critic." "No artist needs criticism, just appreciation." Gertrude Stein And just for your edification...I was declared Artmaster General in college....Of course, I created not only the office, but also named myself to the post...NEVERTHELESS...The qualifications for art: 1. Art MUST be red. 2. Art CANNOT be eaten. 3. Art takes AT LEAST 15 minutes to create. 4. Art CANNOT be plaid (see costume exception below) [This was a theatre design school, so costuming was of concern] In case of confusion--check for breast exposure. If one breast is exposed, the object is PROBABLY art. If two or more breasts are in full view, the object in question is MOST DEFINITELY art. Plaid may be used in costuming art, but ONLY if it is VERY carefully matched. Tassels also contribute greatly to "art factor" in costume pieces. I hope this was some help. The original photo was DEFINITELY art...I was liking it a lot. Jan 26 06 09:09 pm Link raveneyes wrote: Well.. I'm definitely quoting a simplified answer to this ancient question. Jan 26 06 09:10 pm Link I couldn't describe it too you logically, but I know it when I see it.... There's a great James Thurber cartoon of a guy peering at the Mona Lisa. A woman off ot the side is saying to another one, "He knows ALL ABOUT art, he just doesn't know what he likes." Absolutely one of my favorites. Jan 26 06 09:12 pm Link here is a cliché art is a state of mind Jan 26 06 09:16 pm Link If you are really interested in a discussion of the definiton of Art--how it has been defined historically and in contemporary society, and whether a definiton is even possible, read "The Art Question". Most good bookstores have it. . Jan 26 06 09:32 pm Link I think it's in the eye of the beholder. Jan 26 06 09:34 pm Link Double post. Jan 26 06 09:35 pm Link Something about the "i know it when I see it" answers don't sit well with me. Perhaps because it is the same mentality that draws the imaginary line between what is porn and what is art...what is evil and what is good...what is right and what is wrong... I understand that the nucleus of art resides in its ability to engorge the emotions, but that's no excuse for not more aptly defining it, at least to one's self. Jan 26 06 10:46 pm Link I remember when I was at my first art school over a decade ago - one of my professors ask the question to the class "What is art" my friend responded "what is shit?" Everytime I hear that question that moment pops into my head.. Jan 26 06 10:48 pm Link I love this topic. At once it seems like a purely academic discussion, but in reality it's the very heart of the existence of so many photographers. The definition that has come closest (but not exactly, perhaps) to my own concept of "art" is thus: "The existence of art is predicated on one principle, that it is created exclusively for the edification and appreciation of the senses - be it sight, sound, taste, touch or smell." By this definition, art cannot be functional. For instance, food might be visually magnificent and cause you to salivate, but since it's purpose is also nutrition, it cannot be art. It can be artistic, but cannot be art. As well, an exceptional piece of architecture might be a sight to behold, and take your breath away and play sweet music as the wind blows through the cornices. But it is also designed for people to live or work in - It can be artistic, but cannot be art. A photograph can be created with such staggering expertise, and is so disturbing as to elicit tears, but if it's created to illustrate a news article about war, it can be artistic, but cannot be art. Now, before I catch flak from all sides, I also believe in the fluidity of art. Something that was created, originally, with a practical purpose in mind might later be considered art because of it's inspired design, and be appreciated purely for its creativity since it is no longer of practical use. Perhaps the key is to remove the functional element, and it can be art. I'm not yet sure what I think of "decorative art" - those paintings and framed posters that you buy purely to decorate your house. I'm still mulling that one over. But a friend of mine contends that if you buy it in the parking lot of a gas station, it cannot be art. I'm not too sure if I agree, though. Jan 26 06 11:04 pm Link raveneyes wrote: The idea that Art might be the self expression of an Artist might enter into this discussion Jan 26 06 11:20 pm Link art is easily defined as everyone here already has there own definition of it... We seem to have all of the usual suspects in here (and a few new ones) - so does anyone wanna answer the question - "What is good and art & what is bad art?" *goes to grab beer and waits for the fireworks..*  ~Jan 26 06 11:23 pm Link The Art of CIP wrote: Good art makes you feel good, and bad art makes you feel bad. Jan 26 06 11:25 pm Link If you need a MUA to make a photograph, it's not art. Jan 26 06 11:32 pm Link |
