B Ellis Photography wrote:

How about, "I know the difference between good work and bad work and you, my friend, have sucky work.  Sorry!"  I think that would work.  Sort of like garlic to a vampire!  Now go get 'em killer!

Man, I laughed loud, thanks bro )

Cretia Cre-Shuh wrote:
what do all these abbreviations mean..tf whatever..please enlighten me

try www.checkthefaqsectioninmminsteadofpost … eforum.com

rp_photo wrote:
Another good example is the grocery store that has membership cards. Isn't it more stressful to most to have to respond "no" to the "do you have a card" question vs. being able to just provide the card if desired?

Um...no....

rp_photo wrote:
But what if something happened and "Duck" needed that job two months later?

Had he said nothing, his chances might be good.

Had he said "No, No a frazillion times no", he would be dead duck.

you don't laugh at anything, do you?

damn, I thought NYC/NEasterners were uptight....

Yuriy wrote:

Nothing ever requires a response... Just because it doesn't require a response doesn't mean that one should not be given.

Nothing is required of anyone, but its better to be polite and courteous by giving a response.  If its a hassle, make the effort to create a customizable standard response you can send with minimum effort in the future.  The difference in how you treat professional contacts is potential gained or lost customers and alliances.

DarioImpiniPhotography wrote:

Nothing is required of anyone, but its better to be polite and courteous by giving a response.  If its a hassle, make the effort to create a customizable standard response you can send with minimum effort in the future.  The difference in how you treat professional contacts is potential gained or lost customers and alliances.

Yes, that is what I said...

Daniela V wrote:
you don't laugh at anything, do you?

damn, I thought NYC/NEasterners were uptight....

And the pot called the kettle black...

Beach wrote:
Tell them your day rate is $1240.00

dont forget about the $500 deposit.

eyelight wrote:
I could send you copies of the many that turned me down.  They were all better answers than those that didn't respond at all...

Funny... cause there are a lot of photogs that don't respond at all...

Maya Lei wrote:

Funny... cause there are a lot of photogs that don't respond at all...

I explained this already.

Ransom J wrote:
I explained this already.

Haha... I wasn't talkin bout you!  But that made me laugh

P.S. And that's only cause I thought you were mad at me Otherwise I woulda let it go...

PLASMA DONOR wrote:

thats precisely what was going through my head.  hahaha

OH Please, blowing off factor is not in a female's genetic code, but otherwise in the ones who is blown off.

Jay Bowman wrote:
"Thanks but no thanks.  And additionally, though you didn't ask, the photos you have presently are bullshit.  I think your look is tired and you might want to firm up that butt a bit before it starts dragging the floor.  While you're at it, get a nose job and paint your nails.  And if you add another photo to your book with the roots of your hair visible, then you're ugly and an idiot. 

But maybe we can... y'know... work together some other time..."

......
Jay, now, honestly - do you have the access to by inbox or something...?

Julia wrote:
......
Jay, now, honestly - do you have the access to my inbox or something...?

I do...

Oh, wait, did you say your inbox? My bad...

Maya Lei wrote:
Funny... cause there are a lot of photogs that don't respond at all...

Hey now , I contacted you because I wanted to work with you but couldn't at the SM shoot and you said you were "pretty booked for the trip." Unfortunately, my schedule was tight at that time too...  However, if you're coming back, let's talk...

ED Edmonds wrote:
Most photographers know each other in many towns.

Many times I have been asked to recommend a llama..

If you are polite and nice even if you did not shoot with me. I am might recommend you.

There is one llama here who stood up a photographer and she can pretty much kiss 1/2 of the state good bye.

fye - I have never lived in Oregon

Daniela V wrote:

I agree with that. Be as polite as possible.

And on the flip side, if someone turns you down, don't keep approaching them month after month after month.

Ok, ok, after so many months, I finally get the point, you can lift the restraining order now, I'l stop the stalking...

Fedora El Morro wrote:
When I first started llamaing online, I was a little wigged out by photographers wanting me to call them. I think it is a lack of experience thing.....but now, I refuse to waste time. Time is money. Time is something I want to use to my (and your) benefit. I want to reply to the photographers that I dont want to work with, tell them why, wish them a wonderful day, and delete the message. I want to schedule shoots with people that have perspective and personality. I think a lot of people really need attention or something.

I hate phones...

JODI LEVIN wrote:
OK -
so what if you get this opportunity of tfcd of a lifetime... the best photographer you have ever seen: but have to procrastinate, like for additional wardrobe. (you dont want to look like a poverty stricken idiot)
Would he instantly think you are blowing him off ?

Nobody can function in a state of complete ignorance.



Tell him or her you need time to scrounge up some clothing (assuming it isn't provided for you) and give him/her a reasonable assessment off when you might be able to follow through, if possible.  Say that up front and there will be no doubt as to what the photographer is thinking.  More clearly, you won't have to wonder if he thinks you're blowing him off.  He'll know that you're broke and need to get your finances together.  Procrastinating makes you look really flakey.


There's this misconception that photographers don't know the depths of broke-dom in which some llamas live.  We do.  We completely understand.  We even expect it.

For what it's worth...

Jay Bowman wrote:
Nobody can function in a state of complete ignorance.



Tell him or her you need time to scrounge up some clothing (assuming it isn't provided for you) and give him/her a reasonable assessment off when you might be able to follow through, if possible.  Say that up front and there will be no doubt as to what the photographer is thinking.  More clearly, you won't have to wonder if he thinks you're blowing him off.  He'll know that you're broke and need to get your finances together.  Procrastinating makes you look really flakey.


There's this misconception that photographers don't know the depths of broke-dom in which some llamas live.  We do.  We completely understand.  We even expect it.

For what it's worth...

just lookin' for some lovin' -

Adrienne J wrote:
Hey MM!

As a model I know the diff between quality photos and not so good ones...how do you refuse a TF/CD offer with a not-so-good photographer????

how do you know there not good ?  i only put up pictures i want opinions on , not my best work.    i have no trouble finding my own models so no need to impress models with my port.  i put up things im playing with  , right now im shooting in the dark with 1 light source.   i suggest you ask if they have a printed portfolio you can see.    you may find a photog with a not so great port is a wedding photog with 25 years experience that only posts images from side projects he is ( playing  ) with.