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JSouthworth

Posts: 2099

Kingston upon Hull, England, United Kingdom

Here's a link to the sixth, definitive version of my photo book produced using the Bonusprint (now Photobox) online photo book printing service. The book has now reached the standard I was aiming for when I started this project about four months ago.

https://www.photobox.co.uk/view-online- … e7f30eb959

There are now 120 pages, up from 102 in the fourth version and many of the original images have been re-edited. The additional pictures give the photo book more range and depth, the design has been altered to reduce wasted space, the whole thing is a very big improvement overall.

Many of the new pictures are actually from photo shoots that took place 5 to 10 years ago. I find that with the additional practice in editing that I've had since starting this project, I can now get better results from editing these images, hence their inclusion.

As I mentioned earlier, there are a few limitations to the Bonusprint/Photobox app which have necessitated some minor compromises in design and arrangement, a small price for the convenience and value they offer. You could pay a subscription for professional publishing software, send your book to a printing service provider in PDF format (some allow you to do that) and you'd probably end up paying about two or three times as much, spending a lot more time and ending up with a similar or inferior end result, judging from my own online research.

The cost of printing Girls on Film 6.0 was just over £60.00 including shipping with a special offer of free extra pages, saving £99.00 on the regular price. The book was delivered within a week of the order being placed, despite it's coming from the Netherlands which is impressively fast service. The quality of the printing and binding? Good to very good, and you get a free link to an e-book version.

As previously noted the image of Belle Noir on page 5 took multiple re-edits, the final edit looks good both on screen and on paper, deserving it's position opposite the contents page. Also quite difficult was the image of Katrina Oceana on page 10, which did not look good in the early books. Overall the images are denser than would be normal in glamour photography, there are a lot of black backdrops, the whole thing has a kind of darkness to it really. At the same time it borrows selectively from magazine photography as well as other things.

Introducing the models (by the first pages on which they appear);

1.    Katrina Oceana
2.    Hannah Riby
3.    Jayne
5.    Belle Noir
9.    Linziebelle
12.  Morganlee (now Curvymorgan)
24.  Jazz4 (left) and Chloejade (right)
30   Penny Dreadful
55   Lesley the Cat (now Lesleymiaowcat)
98   Lucy 21


Someone was saying in another thread that the creases in the backdrops on pages 12, 13 and 23 constituted a fault. I don't agree; the vertical lines formed by the creases in combine with the horizontal stripes to create a grid pattern which contrasts very effectively with the curved body lines of the model, more effectively than the stripes alone would. And the lines do not go completely through the pictures, which is bad news in composition because it leads the eye out of the picture.

Talking about composition, all the pictures in the book are full length or virtually so, another difference from men's magazine photography in which a full length standing shot is fairly rare. Full length pictures just look more elegant I think, more natural.
It's also worth noting that plus size models usually look better in standing poses. I was lucky to find 6ft 4in Hannah Riby whose images are a mainstay of the book as a whole I think.

Jul 19 24 04:08 am Link

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Dan Howell

Posts: 3671

Kerhonkson, New York, US

JSouthworth wrote:
Someone was saying in another thread that the creases in the backdrops on pages 12, 13 and 23 constituted a fault. I don't agree; the vertical lines formed by the creases in combine with the horizontal stripes to create a grid pattern which contrasts very effectively with the curved body lines of the model, more effectively than the stripes alone would. And the lines do not go completely through the pictures, which is bad news in composition because it leads the eye out of the picture.

While I strongly and absolutely disagree and think they are a glaring flaw, your explanation is weak and sound more like defensiveness. I have absolutely no question that the creases were not something you intended or even noticed until people pointed it out. I further believe that you have no idea of what that shows about your capability as a photographer or 'publisher'.

Jul 19 24 04:42 am Link

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JSouthworth

Posts: 2099

Kingston upon Hull, England, United Kingdom

Dan Howell wrote:
While I strongly and absolutely disagree and think they are a glaring flaw, your explanation is weak and sound more like defensiveness. I have absolutely no question that the creases were not something you intended or even noticed until people pointed it out. I further believe that you have no idea of what that shows about your capability as a photographer or 'publisher'.

I did not intend it at the time I took the pictures, but it doesn't matter. There are always accidents and it makes sense to capitalise them where possible.

Jul 19 24 05:13 am Link

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Mark Salo

Posts: 11956

Olney, Maryland, US

I love grid patterns.

Jul 21 24 03:00 pm Link

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JSouthworth

Posts: 2099

Kingston upon Hull, England, United Kingdom

Mark Salo wrote:
I love grid patterns.

If you can imagine those pictures without the vertical lines, not easy I know, you'll see that they do improve the images. When I first edited those pictures, I started editing out the creases using the clone tool, but quickly came to realise that I wasn't improving the pictures that way.

As I say, I didn't intend the grid pattern effect at the time I took the pictures, but then again, if I'd thought the creases in the backdrops were that much of a problem I COULD have ironed them out. That's a lot of ironing, and once the creases are gone, they're gone. In time they disappear by themselves.

Cloth backdrops are better than paper rolls I think, more interesting to look at at easier to store when not in use, I have quite a collection now.

Jul 22 24 02:16 am Link

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New York, New York, US

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Jul 22 24 03:58 am Link

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Frank Lewis Photography

Posts: 14585

Boquete, Chiriquí, Panama

New and different. I think the images challenge the viewer to accept that there are different ideas of what defines beauty. Over all, I like what you have done here.

Jul 22 24 06:27 am Link

Photographer

JSouthworth

Posts: 2099

Kingston upon Hull, England, United Kingdom

Frank Lewis Photography wrote:
New and different. I think the images challenge the viewer to accept that there are different ideas of what defines beauty. Over all, I like what you have done here.

Thanks, I try to be original.

Jul 22 24 08:18 am Link