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There is a thread in Photography Talk forum on "Any photographers over age 40 in here": https://www.modelmayhem.com/forums/post/976077 - it appears that were infact a number of photographers over 60. I myself am approaching 70. I was wondering what part the photographers age the model takes into consideration in the decision making process. Do models go for the quality of the images in the photographer's portfolio and other sources of the photographers ability or do some consider the more "aged" or "senior" photographers to be more "creepy". From my own experience I have had numerous shoots with the models I have shot with and my age has not been a problem to them - in fact I have become friendly with many of them and have been asked to be the photographer for some of their special events. But many of their friends have told them it is rather creepy having a senior person photographing them. Jun 28 19 03:01 am Link I'm 72 Phil. Age seems to be the last consideration, if at all. Although, I notice there are more hugs than handshakes these days. :-) I think it is much more how they are treated from the get go. I think most can tell by the way you say hello exactly what you have in mind. Professionalism is ageless. Jun 28 19 05:03 am Link Now that I am 76 years old and unable to financially compensate models my MM contribution is down to almost zero. Also it has become physically more challenging to go up and down a step ladder to set up backdrop lights etc..... I worked from the dinning area of my apartment.....That being said, I never felt that any models had any problems with my age gap (Average 45 to 50 years gap!!) and my nonprofessional shooting environment. Jun 28 19 05:05 am Link A photographers career is long lived. A model's career, in general, is very short lived. Drink it up while you can. I have gone to many meets and always see photographers in their 60's and even 70's. We all end up there some day. Jun 28 19 04:25 pm Link Phil_I wrote: Hello, Jun 28 19 06:39 pm Link Before a first shoot, communications between photographer and model usually take place through messages and texts, so a model probably wouldn't know the photographer's age until they actually meet. As a result, at least for an initial shoot, it seems that a model couldn't take the photographer's age into account. Jun 29 19 04:26 am Link I find it interesting, perhaps even telling, that no model thus far has responded to the OP question. Or perhaps the silence is the answer. Jun 29 19 09:14 am Link Weldphoto wrote: Do you wish to change your post ? Jun 29 19 09:53 am Link PHP-Photography wrote: He was off by one. The point still stands. It's all too common in this part of the forum for photographers to chime in overwhelmingly on questions directed specifically to models. It's why the models now have their own models-only colloquy. Jun 29 19 11:33 am Link I've never asked for a photographer's age before working with them - whoever is on the other side of the camera is a complete surprise to me when I show up, unless we've connected on other social media and I've happened across a photo of them or something. I've had good and bad experiences with people of all ages, but I will say that the few younger people I worked with seemed a bit more humble/afraid of looking like they didnt know what they were doing. I've never had a younger male photographer act like a complete ass trying to talk down to me and make himself look like some bigshot, it's always been the "I've been doing this since before you were born" guys. Jun 29 19 12:56 pm Link Orca Bay Images wrote: Disagree. Jun 30 19 12:28 am Link I'm 82 and in my experience and observation, it's a problem only with the most inexperienced models, as is the unreasonable fear of male photographers generally. I submit that much of that fear is sparked by those outside the industry who see us all, models and photographers, as depraved oversexed monsters, augmented by a cadre of white knights among our ranks. Although I have no statistics to back it, it seems to me that this problem has been much reduced here with the creation of the models only forum, to which most of the white knights are forbidden. If so it may be the biggest benefit of that forum. Jun 30 19 05:56 am Link PHP-Photography wrote: There used to be tons of models in the forums. Jul 02 19 08:08 pm Link Orca Bay Images wrote: Trust me, you are not missing anything at all. I started to look and actually post in there recently. It is as dead as the rest of the place, (and I suspect caused a huge part of the last level of demise here but, that is just my opinion.) Jul 02 19 09:23 pm Link G Reese wrote: This. In my experience, the only photographers who have ever lacked professionalism tended to be the younger ones. Older photographers know their stuff and know how to behave with professionalism and good manners. Jul 03 19 08:57 pm Link Creepy has never been associated with the age of a photographer or artist. From my experience some of the younger to middle age ones are more likely to have that problem, not the older ones. I pick who to work with by quality of their work, which is also not age related. I also work with a lot of students, particularly college students in art or photography classes. Over the 30+ years I have been modelling, I have posed for student artists as young as 14 or 15 in life drawing groups (who were there with permission of their parents and the director of the group) and I have also posed for photographers and artists well over age 80. Jul 04 19 05:31 am Link Michelle Genevieve wrote: This is a good point! I don't think that anyone has mentioned it before. Jul 04 19 05:33 am Link Jul 07 19 03:27 pm Link G Reese wrote: I'm 73 and could not agree more! Jul 07 19 03:28 pm Link We are not old we are vintage. And there are some models that are modeling into the 60's Jul 18 19 02:06 pm Link Old Photographers Don't Disappear . . . We Just Fade Away . . . . . Jul 18 19 04:41 pm Link Ken Marcus Studios wrote: Like in here? Jul 18 19 10:18 pm Link Models even clients who will not work with me due to some flaw in me that has nothing to do with my work have saved myself any further trouble. I am grateful for any superficial filters. Jul 19 19 01:39 pm Link I’m nearly 69 and I think a male photographer’s age is certainly a factor when shooting much younger female models. I think this is perfectly understandable. But it does depend on the model and the circumstances of the shoot. The more experienced and professional the model, the less it’s likely to be a factor. And with fashion models not at all, in my experience. Jul 23 19 04:04 am Link Laura UnBound wrote: I don’t know what happened but I do know there are so few people posting on these forums now that it doesn’t seem worth me checking in here any more. Jul 23 19 04:12 am Link Derek Ridgers wrote: Shooting with an older photographer is safer for the model, they can outrun us Jul 23 19 07:12 am Link PHP-Photography wrote: Kinda agree! Jul 25 19 12:05 pm Link From what I have read in other threads on the subject and in my personal experience, most models don't consider the age gap to be important, far fewer than the older photographers fear. And most of those that do have a preference on the subject actually feel more comfortable with the photographer in their dad's age range or older. Aug 11 19 02:33 pm Link Ken Marcus Studios wrote: Like our "C" prints. Oct 15 19 09:12 pm Link https://www.modelmayhem.com/forums/post/841542/1 Ancient record shows that there indeed are models who have difficulty emoting for a camera if it’s handled by an elderly gentleman!😉 Oct 17 19 12:23 am Link Personally i do not care about the age of the photogrpaher, but I care about their level of health. If the shoot gets cut short because dearie needs to lay down it generally sucks. Manners should be present in young and old alike. On a sidenote, I've done some of my best work with senior photographers. Oct 18 19 01:03 pm Link G Reese wrote: 100% Oct 26 19 07:47 am Link An interesting thread that is pertinent to me. I recently worked with a 35 year old model/photographer. We took it turns to model (nude) out in the desert. We were very comfortable with each other despite having never met before. Yes. I do still model at the age of 68 and have posted a few images of myself on my photographer profile. Do you think it's a good idea to include those images of myself or should I start another profile as a sixty something model? Thanks Richard Sep 20 20 02:09 pm Link Seems there was a quote I heard many Years ago, something about Models getting old while Photographers get better. Sep 20 20 03:52 pm Link Am I the only one who thought this headline was in regards to school yearbook photos...lol Sep 21 20 01:28 am Link Photographers should be forced to retire at 47 Sep 21 20 04:10 pm Link veypurr wrote: agree, then maybe zombie threads like this one wouldnt get bumped so much, and the models' forum wouldnt have gotten overran. Sep 21 20 09:49 pm Link Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote: Nope. :-D Oct 03 20 07:09 pm Link Phil_I wrote: Honestly, age DOES tend to be a yellow flag for me and the "creepy" factor DOES cross my mind--but I try to just ignore that, because no one deserves judgement straight out of the gate without even knowing them personally. Oct 15 20 12:14 pm Link Angel House Portraits wrote: Most of the workshops I've been to, or any event with other photographers, most were thrice my age. Oct 15 20 02:34 pm Link |
