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Who pays when both parties refuse to do tfcd/tfp?
This is a question for you models and photographers out there who refuse to do tfcd/tfp. I see some portfolios that have the saying NO TFP/TFCD.....NO EXCEPTIONS (PAID SHOOTS ONLY). But they are shooting with people who also say NO TFP/TFCD....NO EXCEPTIONS(PAID SHOOTS ONLY). I was just wondering who was paying who  Dec 08 06 06:00 pm Link It's quite possible that neither pays. They both just say "no TFP" to keep out the riff raff. Dec 08 06 06:07 pm Link haha good point. I list NO TFCD in my profile and still get emails asking for TFCD for some reason. I know I certainly do not yield to their requests...do you? O.o Dec 08 06 06:09 pm Link The forum readers pay, because it ends up being discussed here. Again. And Again. Dec 08 06 06:10 pm Link C David Stephens wrote: that's what I do, which is also why I still ask photogs who list that just incase they are doing the same thing. Dec 08 06 06:13 pm Link Who pays if I decide I don't want to pay for a Starbuck's coffee and they decide they don't want to give me one? Fairly simple...no sale. Dec 08 06 06:13 pm Link Mikel Featherston wrote: And yet you feel the need to read it....and then take the time to respond to it Dec 08 06 06:16 pm Link Thomas B wrote: Well yes. We're all here for the t-shirt right? You don't get it for keeping your opinion to yourself. Dec 08 06 06:19 pm Link Thomes I often wonder that same thing. Both parties say NO TFP yet they both work together. Maybe its all hype LOL !! Dec 08 06 06:19 pm Link alot of times, its put up there to eliminate the strays who randomly look for anybody with a "popular" port and it helps prevent them from contacting them with foolishness "i like your work and want to do TFP" messages or emails, although it depends on if the person actually reads the profile before contacting. but alot of time, both of them shot TFP, just on some mutual respect-your-work-and-you-respect-mines type arrangement. Dec 08 06 06:22 pm Link Chuck Holliday wrote: Dec 08 06 06:23 pm Link well said Chuck!!! Dec 08 06 06:23 pm Link Thomas B wrote: I like to add value when I can. Dec 08 06 06:24 pm Link Bill each other, write each other a check, be done with it. Dec 08 06 06:24 pm Link Is this business about TFP shoots or making money. In order to make money you have to spend money. I never do TFP. I hire models. Dec 08 06 06:24 pm Link Dec 08 06 06:29 pm Link Some people think their look is so amazing, that you would be willing to break that rule just for them? Dec 08 06 10:51 pm Link They call it a "test shoot" and it just ends up going into an MM port to collect useless comments like "WOW, great shot" "You are beautiful" "Great use of light" and every other cliche. This site has to be the biggest waste of time I have ever seen. Dec 08 06 10:55 pm Link Thomas B wrote: Simple; The people who pay are those who ask. Since you asked ... Dec 08 06 11:09 pm Link MrE Creations wrote: If that is true, then what are you doing here? Dec 08 06 11:12 pm Link MrE Creations wrote: and when two people who are mediocre refuse to work together, no-one pays.. Dec 08 06 11:14 pm Link Thomas B wrote: Maybe some photographers actually shoot paying advertising work.....imagine that.....a novel concept.....in which case both photographer and model (if needed for the shoot) are paid by a company which needs to advertise their product or service. Dec 08 06 11:19 pm Link Patrick Walberg wrote: New here and about to leave actually. I didnt know his place was full of amateurs and hobbyists. Thought I might actually meet some real professionals to work with, guess not. Dec 08 06 11:22 pm Link The muses! Dec 08 06 11:24 pm Link Everybody- The photographer hires the model and the model pays for prints or usage. Dec 08 06 11:36 pm Link re- photography wrote: someone that gets it. Dec 08 06 11:40 pm Link Thomas B wrote: Umm . like two trains passing in the nite I guess Dec 10 06 12:01 am Link MrE Creations wrote: To be one - is to know one. Dec 10 06 12:10 am Link Bruce Talbot wrote: I do concur Mr. Talbot! Dec 10 06 12:20 am Link MrE Creations wrote: Guess you didn't have better things to do tonight! Dec 10 06 12:22 am Link No one because no shoot takes place? Dec 10 06 12:26 am Link 00siris wrote: no Dec 10 06 12:28 am Link It is a secret... Dec 10 06 03:06 am Link I pay... Dec 10 06 03:08 am Link MrE Creations wrote: Your work is good. I'm sorry that you are not with a good attitude towards networking with others here. There are photographers and models who are certainly your equal here if you give it a chance. Dec 10 06 03:14 am Link Bruce Talbot wrote: Sorry man but I have been published in several magazines, work for a few agencies, shot some album covers and calendars. Nothing top notch millions of people would know, but I am not an amateur or a hobbyist, far from it Dec 10 06 10:56 am Link MrE Creations wrote: Check his port. Looks pretty ordinary to me. Dec 10 06 11:03 am Link Creative Image wrote: Yes, and yours is just soooo spectacular. Fuck off please Dec 10 06 11:08 am Link MrE Creations wrote: WOW...you have done a lot of stuff.......let's some of these tearsheets, calendars and album covers. Well you said you were leaving the site.......so whatcha waiting for? Leave us amateurs to our sad little site. It says in your profile that as of Dec 6th you are leaving the business.....but it's Dec. 10th and your still here....guess you missed us Dec 10 06 11:09 am Link MrE Creations wrote: Geez, your professionalism just astounds me. *rolls eyes* MrE Creations wrote: You know, for the life of me, I can't figure out why you'd have any problems with models showing up to a shoot with you. Couldn't be your attitude, could it? Or do you reserve your pithy comments especially for us here on this board? Dec 10 06 11:17 am Link |
