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lll
Posts: 12295
Seattle, Washington, US
There has been a string of outing threads naming names on the forum lately from many newbies.
Please note that it is not allowed on Model Mayhem.
We don't allow this for the very simple reason that there are always two sides of the story and rarely either side presents the truth.
Also, please remember that this site is searchable by Google, anything you write here will effectively be public record.
Just a reminder.
Leo - Moderator
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Mikel Featherston
Posts: 11103
San Diego, California, US
You should make this a sticky thread.
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lll
Posts: 12295
Seattle, Washington, US
Mikel Featherston wrote:
You should make this a sticky thread. Only Tyler can make anything sticky...unfortunately.
You can all help keep this bumped. 
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Lighten Up Designs
Posts: 7
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
I was guilty of that. It was not my intention to "out" but rather to warn people in my area about a shifty person in our industry. This is a forum no? People's opinions will not always be recognized or appreciated i understand. My post was a fact.I was trying to protect my peers.
I'm dissapointed with M.M. in one of the most opinionated industries of all. If i was a member of Typhon Mayhem i would most certainly want to know when the next storm was coming. Catch my drift??? Pardon the pun.
T.
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Tony Lawrence
Posts: 21528
Chicago, Illinois, US
Lighten Up Designs wrote:
I was guilty of that. It was not my intention to "out" but rather to warn people in my area about a shifty person in our industry. This is a forum no? People's opinions will not always be recognized or appreciated i understand. My post was a fact.I was trying to protect my peers.
I'm dissapointed with M.M. in one of the most opinionated industries of all. If i was a member of Typhon Mayhem i would most certainly want to know when the next storm was coming. Catch my drift??? Pardon the pun.
T. As you may have recently seen some of our more outrageous members have
started some very controversial threads outing people. In two cases the
outed person responded and in one case the thread reached over 60 pages
of responses where the OP looked bad. Most of these types of threads only
serve to spread gossip and we never really know for sure what really happened.
If someone has committed a crime the first stop is the police. Then a report
to the mods so they can review whats going on.
Maybe the person is a problem but maybe the person reporting them has a
grudge or is being dishonest but that never happens on MM where members
are always truthful. Right?
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Veteres Vitri
Posts: 1994
MAYLENE, Alabama, US
Let's not turn this into a thread about niel patrick harris
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TBJ Imaging
Posts: 2416
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, US
Lance Bass was outed and now he and his boyfriend have split....see what outing causes
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RDawkins
Posts: 4532
Breckenridge, Colorado, US
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Renee Jacobs
Posts: 2923
Montpellier, Languedoc-Roussillon, France
what was the question? I'm just here because I like Leo's cool new avatar. :-)
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Mikel Featherston
Posts: 11103
San Diego, California, US
To quote a Monty Python movie: "Stayyyyyyy UP!"
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arianna77
Posts: 57
Germantown, Maryland, US
lll wrote:
Only Tyler can make anything sticky...unfortunately.
You can all help keep this bumped. Erm...that just sounds bad... LOL. Ewww, Tyler!
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lll
Posts: 12295
Seattle, Washington, US
Lighten Up Designs wrote:
My post was a fact.I was trying to protect my peers. Your post was YOUR alleged fact. We don't know the other person, couldn't get his/her story. It is unfair, unjust and unreasonable.
You may have the best intention, but we need to be fair.
Thanks. Also, you were not the only one guilty of doing this in the last week or so.
It's over.
Leo - Moderator.
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Mikel Featherston
Posts: 11103
San Diego, California, US
Get back to where you once belonged.
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DFWlens
Posts: 96
Dallas, Texas, US
Google, huh?
Colonel Mustard told me lll did it. In the Lounge. With the candlestick.
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Loretta Lightningbolt
Posts: 4127
DEVILS ELBOW, Missouri, US
Yup. When I search "SickShooter" in google...I get a bunch of MM posts I made
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Jay Bowman
Posts: 6511
Los Angeles, California, US
Bumped, eventhough the people who need to read this probably won't bother.
Rules are rules. Following them isn't that difficult. I didn't even bother to skim them until almost 6 months into my membership and found that I hadn't even broken a single one.
It's not that difficult...
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Christopher Hartman
Posts: 54196
Buena Park, California, US
Lighten Up Designs wrote:
I was guilty of that. It was not my intention to "out" but rather to warn people in my area about a shifty person in our industry. This is a forum no? People's opinions will not always be recognized or appreciated i understand. My post was a fact.I was trying to protect my peers.
I'm dissapointed with M.M. in one of the most opinionated industries of all. If i was a member of Typhon Mayhem i would most certainly want to know when the next storm was coming. Catch my drift??? Pardon the pun.
T. Yeah, but if you say a Typhoon is coming and it doesn't, do you get sued for being wrong? Have you hurt the Typhoon's Reputation?
I understand your point, but as Leo said, their are two sides to every story. How would you feel if a model you worked with turned out to be a nutcase and started talking about how you touched her (though true, you only move hair away from her face) and it made her feel uncomfortable. If you've been around here long enough, you'll find some members think that even moving a model's hair is unprofessional and you should NEVER EVER EVER EVER TOuch a model. Knowing this, do you really want people judged in MM forums?
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Christopher Hartman
Posts: 54196
Buena Park, California, US
Thomas B wrote:
Lance Bass was outed and now he and his boyfriend have split....see what outing causes Serious?! haha, maybe Lance started getting hit on by better looking dudes?
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Alex Davenport
Posts: 10215
Spokane, Missouri, US
arianna77 wrote:
Erm...that just sounds bad... LOL. Ewww, Tyler! Hehe. What does it mean to make a thread sticky anyway??
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Tony Lawrence
Posts: 21528
Chicago, Illinois, US
DigitalCMH wrote:
Yeah, but if you say a Typhoon is coming and it doesn't, do you get sued for being wrong? Have you hurt the Typhoon's Reputation?
I understand your point, but as Leo said, their are two sides to every story. How would you feel if a model you worked with turned out to be a nutcase and started talking about how you touched her (though true, you only move hair away from her face) and it made her feel uncomfortable. If you've been around here long enough, you'll find some members think that even moving a model's hair is unprofessional and you should NEVER EVER EVER EVER TOuch a model. Knowing this, do you really want people judged in MM forums? Chris has made a excellent post. Recently a model alleged something
very serious about a photographer. Her comments were full of holes and she
was largely discredited but some still came on to defend her. They didn't take
the time to really read her original complaint and responses but thought that
the photographer was wrong. If a model has a criminal complaint then her
first stop should be the police and not the court of MM.
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Mikel Featherston
Posts: 11103
San Diego, California, US
Alex Davenport wrote:
Hehe. What does it mean to make a thread sticky anyway?? It stays at the top of the forum, like the other two that are there now.
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Len Cook Photographer
Posts: 599
Fremont, California, US
OK, so how about FIELD TRIP threads?
Sorry -- couldn't resist -- teeny little mind.
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Christopher Hartman
Posts: 54196
Buena Park, California, US
Alex Davenport wrote:
Hehe. What does it mean to make a thread sticky anyway?? Means the thread topic will always stay at the top. No bumping required.
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Mikel Featherston
Posts: 11103
San Diego, California, US
Len Cook Photographer wrote:
OK, so how about FIELD TRIP threads?
Sorry -- couldn't resist -- teeny little mind. Almost but not quite entirely unlike clever. 
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Golden Light
Posts: 951
Miami, Florida, US
Okay even though we know it was all your fault and you pushed your ex over the edge. I'll take you up on your offer to be friends. Aside from being heartless and cruel, being extremely hot will push any one over the edge.
If you want to pay me for this most exhalant advise, I take beer by the six-pack and or 1/2 off Denneyâs coupons.
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Golden Light
Posts: 951
Miami, Florida, US
Sorry. What thread is this??
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Looknsee Photography
Posts: 26342
Portland, Oregon, US
I notice that Lighten Up Designs, an originator of one of these offending posts, is no longer a member of MM. He left (was kicked off?) after ~7 posts. Is that a record?
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Alix Andrea
Posts: 3035
Los Angeles, California, US
Looknsee Photography wrote:
I notice that Lighten Up Designs, an originator of one of these offending posts, is no longer a member of MM. He left (was kicked off?) after ~7 posts. Is that a record? That sucks! is the only way to get kicked off the site through the forums? If you post something against the rules *poof* thats it??? I have seen quite a few people post something sort of controversial, click on their avi and their port is gone. Scary...makes me want to watch very carefully what I say in here.
But my point was, the forums are the ony way people get kicked off?
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Jay Bowman
Posts: 6511
Los Angeles, California, US
Alix Andrea wrote:
But my point was, the forums are the ony way people get kicked off? In the info tab under the header they have a link to the rules here. I'm under the impression that people have indeed been banned for other things than forum-related issues.
Forum posting seems to be the attention-getter because one second you see the person posting and the next you click on the avatar and they're no longer a member...
Just my thought...
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Christopher Hartman
Posts: 54196
Buena Park, California, US
Alix Andrea wrote:
That sucks! is the only way to get kicked off the site through the forums? If you post something against the rules *poof* thats it??? I have seen quite a few people post something sort of controversial, click on their avi and their port is gone. Scary...makes me want to watch very carefully what I say in here.
But my point was, the forums are the ony way people get kicked off? If you model for me and wear my Angels jersey, you are protected from the BanStick. Check my gallery of Angels and you'll see that NONE of them have ever been banned. Tyler and I have this agreement. So if you're really worried, just come over and put my jersey on for a few pics.
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Christopher Hartman
Posts: 54196
Buena Park, California, US
Jay Bowman wrote:
In the info tab under the header they have a link to the rules here. I'm under the impression that people have indeed been banned for other things than forum-related issues.
Forum posting seems to be the attention-getter because one second you see the person posting and the next you click on the avatar and they're no longer a member...
Just my thought... Posting in the forums brings your profile to their attention. If you never post, you can probably get away with a lot of things before getting caught, if ever. There are too many profiles to police everything.
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Alix Andrea
Posts: 3035
Los Angeles, California, US
DigitalCMH wrote:
If you model for me and wear my Angels jersey, you are protected from the BanStick. Check my gallery of Angels and you'll see that NONE of them have ever been banned. Tyler and I have this agreement. So if you're really worried, just come over and put my jersey on for a few pics. Hahaha....Hmm, I see, none of them have been banned. Well, I do want to be protected from the BanStick
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Christopher Hartman
Posts: 54196
Buena Park, California, US
Alix Andrea wrote:
Hahaha....Hmm, I see, none of them have been banned. Well, I do want to be protected from the BanStick 
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Stephen Bodi
Posts: 848
East Northport, New York, US
I am upset. I was going to out Tony Lawrence as a good photographer.
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Nihilus
Posts: 10888
Nashville, Tennessee, US
I DIDN'T DO IT!!!!! ...wait... *skims over thread* ...oh...nobody's mentioned me. Right, then. Carry on.
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Mikel Featherston
Posts: 11103
San Diego, California, US
This thread makes sense. It is fun to post in threads that make sense.
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lll
Posts: 12295
Seattle, Washington, US
Looknsee Photography wrote:
I notice that Lighten Up Designs, an originator of one of these offending posts, is no longer a member of MM. He left (was kicked off?) after ~7 posts. Is that a record? Just to be clear, he left himself. He didn't want to follow a simple, reasonable rule, so he decided that MM isn't for him. Good riddance.
And bump for this.
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Looknsee Photography
Posts: 26342
Portland, Oregon, US
Looknsee Photography wrote:
I notice that Lighten Up Designs, an originator of one of these offending posts, is no longer a member of MM. He left (was kicked off?) after ~7 posts. Is that a record? lll wrote:
Just to be clear, he left himself. He didn't want to follow a simple, reasonable rule, so he decided that MM isn't for him. Good riddance.
And bump for this. When he posted something that I thought was inappropriate, I posted a reply (that I thought was direct but polite) asking him to modify his original post, and I explained why such posts were inappropriate. He sent me a message, claiming that he was acting for the better good; let's say that he was a little less than polite. He refused to change his post. So, I asked the moderators to take a look.
I also notice that he posted on this thread, above. In that post, he still demonstrated that he didn't get it.
If he left, that's fine. He did send me a second e-mail message, entitled "Thanks", but I couldn't read it once he left. I suspect that he blamed me for his troubles.
Ah, well. People with clogged ears have a learning disability.
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