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Models how far would you travel for TFP/CD?
I usually look for models that are within a couple of hours or less from me. Figuring that most models don't want to travel for TFP/CD. I know that models will travel for pay. How far would you travel if you feel that you can get some terrific images? Would you drive up if your travel expenses were covered like gas, tolls and or food? Would that be half or all? Aug 20 05 02:21 pm Link I've had a model fly 1500 miles and pay her own travel expenses for a 3-day TFP. Did she think it was worth it? She is planning on doing it again! On the other hand, I once drove 400 miles and the model drove 150 miles for a 3-day TFP. And she was a highly paid model! I did pay for her hotel room. If you create a cool enough situation where the model is thrilled to be there, they will go the distance. Aug 20 05 02:33 pm Link depends on the photographer and how motivated I am to work with him. If he paid travel expenses, and I felt he could help my port, I would do it. The only way I would travel halfway across the country at my own expense would be to work with someone whose work I considered so valuable that the monetary price I was paying was worth what I was getting back in images/ prints. Top end gallery photographers, when they give signed prints, are basically giving the model money. So, she is paying less for the prints than if she got them off a wall. And, she can have some pictures of herself taken by this artist to treasure as well. Also, some artists, who do not have gallery work, have something that resonates with the model in a deep way. Depends on how much you want it, I guess. Aug 20 05 02:41 pm Link I just had a model fly from Fla to Philly to shoot with a photographer there and then drive across the state to shoot with me in Pittsburgh the next day. I'm planning to return the favor and fly down to work with her in a month or so. In the last few years, I've travelled to several states to work with people I thought were something special. It all depends on what you want and what you're willing to do to accomplish it. Aug 20 05 02:45 pm Link Which reminds me Melvin...about those prints.... Aug 20 05 02:48 pm Link A model from the Charlotte, NC. area once drove up to WV. at her own expense for a tfp bikini shoot for a calendar. But I ended up threatening legal action against the person who was suppose to produce the calendar to get the pics back. Aug 20 05 02:55 pm Link A couple of hours is about normal for me too. But I had a model come from Erie yesterday. That's about 4 hrs. Higher gas prices are going to affect this, I believe. Paul Aug 20 05 03:03 pm Link Wes Adam wrote: I'll drive a half hour...maybe 45 mins if she's extra special. I once worked with a model that was extra-extra-extra special. During a break, I opened a 3-pak of Reese's P'butter cups and offered her one. But she was extra-extra-extra special. Aug 20 05 04:03 pm Link I have plans to fly all over North America in 2006 for TFP of my choosing.  Aug 20 05 06:26 pm Link I'm in LA and there are so many great photographers, stylists, etc. to work with here. But Lapis said it well... Lapis wrote: I also move and travel often enough that traveling for a specific TFP/CD opportunity isn't often necessary - I happen to be in Texas, DC, New York, California, Brazil, Belize, etc. So catch me while I'm in town Josie Nutter wrote: I did a similar trip in March of this year, and overall it was a good experience, but there were a few problems that happen even without traveling but somehow seem more prone with travel (no show, planning difficulties) Aug 20 05 06:46 pm Link Josie Nutter wrote: I would love to do that. I am planning trips to certain places, but I don't know how many trips I can schedule. So I am looking for concentrations of good photogs! Aug 20 05 07:44 pm Link I had a model travel over 100 miles each way by train today.. WoooooooWhooooooo!!! Aug 20 05 07:56 pm Link Well Jacy Andrews went to Scotland with me for 11 days TFCD. bs Anybody else want to do SCOTLAND TFCD? bs Aug 20 05 09:19 pm Link Wes Adam wrote: I thought Wes was looking for input from 'Models'? Aug 20 05 10:11 pm Link EMG STUDIOS wrote: LOL.... It was only 1.5 hours away ( and I would do it again) Aug 20 05 10:19 pm Link I will travel if my time permits and expenses are paid!!! but if it only to a neighboring state like Jersy or Philly..then its not big deal!!!! The photograpghers work has to be worth it too!!! Aug 20 05 10:19 pm Link In my own area, about a 1/2 hr. I don't drive, and most of the places photogs around here want to shoot outdoors are often closer to my house than their's. Now, I do often travel all over the US (just went up to NYC in July and will probably be back that way in October), so if I can find a photog that I like that I can "get to" while out of town then I'm all for it. I actually lugged all my luggage from Newark, NJ where I was at during my trip all the way out to Brooklyn, NY to shoot with a photog, and my stuff was heavy because some costumes just aren't able to be built light!!! I'm actually considering right now going to school in either NYC or L.A. (NYC is seriously in the running, but L.A. might be a better move for me *shrug*) Aug 20 05 11:35 pm Link only to adams house Aug 21 05 05:38 am Link I'll go if my travel expenses are paid and its to a city I want to visit. Aug 21 05 09:17 am Link bobby sargent wrote: Do you pay travel costs?...Scotland has got to be a blast Aug 21 05 11:52 am Link I would think that it would be most equitable for the person proposing the TFCD to travel to the "propose-ee's" location. In other words, If I propose a TFCD to a distant model, I travel to them. If a distant model proposes a TFCD to me, they travel to me. Of course, this is only practical if a specific location is not involved. For example, a typical swimwear shoot could be most likely be done in either party's home town. If the location is specifically defined, then there is no question who has to travel. Aug 21 05 01:05 pm Link I would travel anywhere providing expenses are taken care of(either gas/tolls or flight, etc., hotel stay, etc.) for a TFP. If it was far away, I'd want the photographer to take care of my travel expenses for a TFP and I'd want to be out there for about a week and schedule other paid shoots. Aug 21 05 01:10 pm Link i live 6 hours from everyone close.. farthest a model has come for a tfp shoot is arizona.. think thats about 20 hours away.. Ya ima photographer so what,its still good info (:---- Aug 24 05 01:53 am Link I have been to MS, NC, SC, FL, etc...etc...I don't mind traveling if some expenses are helped with, if the photographers work is outstanding (or they are just really cool), or if they are shooting something that benefits both our portfolios. I am in this for me, but I DO ALWAYS wnat to give the photographer what they want/need as well. I have paid my expenses for many trips that benefitted my book (and yes, I am young, BUT I do have some money from a TV show I did and my momma don't have to "foot the bill"...LOL). I just really think there has to be a give and take, if you can get what you want, can offer the photographer something, and you can agree on any terms (# of images, CD's, travel), then it is all good! Peabo Aug 24 05 02:03 am Link If it's a good photographer, I'll go the distance. A good distance, maybe a few hours. Traveling to another state though? That'd be more dangerous then flattering. So id stay in California for now Aug 24 05 02:20 am Link If expenses are paid I will travel anywhere to work with a awesome photog... Aug 24 05 03:48 am Link bobby sargent wrote: Thats something to ponder. Aug 24 05 01:13 pm Link Let me hedge my answer. I used to say that I'd go anywhere to shoot with a truly awesome photographer and I meant it. That changed this year. In April of this year, for instance, I traveled on my own dime to Denver, CO to shoot with a photog who's portfolio I really loved. I live in Norman, OK, so that was a distance of 700 miles. I covered all expenses. We shot for 8 hours. Five months later, I have yet to receive a CD or any e-mailed images. Because he's so far away, I'm really not able to take any action but e-mail, so I'll probably never see those images. And from the attitudes most of (not all) the MM photogs showed when I asked for advice on how to get the images, this is a perfectly okay scenario to most of you. It seems that many photogs see no reason to actually provide the images from a TFP/TFCD. So, as they say, one bad apple spoils the whole bunch. Or rather, in this case, one bad apple led me to learn the attitudes of many of the apples. Now, unless the photographer had impeccable references, breathtaking images, would actually (and actively) do something for my career (read - tearsheets), and will sign a legally binding agreement that I'll get the images with 6 weeks time, I won't budge from this state for a TFP/TFCD. Aug 24 05 01:31 pm Link Christine 16 wrote: Sorry you had such a problem. That's not the attitude of most of the photographers here. You should have gotten your images. Aug 24 05 01:41 pm Link I doubt I'd ever travel more than 100 miles for a TFP. Actually, it's unusual for me to travel more than 100 miles for any shoot. Aug 24 05 03:33 pm Link Christine 16 wrote: My advice to you would be to save up your money and locate an established photographer in LA or New York and pay to have your book shot and your Zed Card designed and printed. If you continue to rely on fly-by-night OMP and MM guys with cameras, you'll never get what you are looking for. Aug 24 05 05:56 pm Link I'll travel as far as the photographer will get me, or other photographers. Usually I'll do one TFP per trip and get one or two paid assignments to cover traveling expenses. I did a TFP in Indiana (which is about an 8 hour drive without traffic and without getting lost). Aug 24 05 06:05 pm Link It really depends on the photographers work, if i really want to work with them I'd have no problem traveling for a TFP. I'd probably try to kill two birds with one stone by setting something else up while I was there. If travel expenses were completely paid for I still might not shoot if I don't like the photographers work. It really depends.... Aug 24 05 06:29 pm Link I wouldn't travel more than 40 miles for a TFP shoot, unless travel expenses were covered. Aug 24 05 08:12 pm Link models travel the country for tfp, i see that often. Aug 26 05 01:22 am Link I had tow models drive several hours in the Southern California freeways to come out to have me take their pictures. When I finished taking ones pictures and got the editted pictures to him he commented about my computer being in my kitchen. But he still has the pictures posted and uses them at an agency's site to promote himself. Gas wasn't as expensive back then either. Aug 26 05 02:28 am Link I had a model drive like 7 hours from MD to do a TFP with me without even mentioning travel expenses. Then I get the ones with webcam shots in their ports that are less than an hour away and want $$ for gas. I guess it depends on how serious they are about getting good photos. Attn MODS: I almost started a new thread about this but I was a good boy and used the search function - yay! Jan 21 06 07:49 am Link Actually every year I take a model to an island in the West Indies with me (TFP/CD art/nudes - all expenses paid). I'm just starting to plan for the next trip in April. I'll soon post an ad on MM about it. Any model interested in that adventure is welcome to contact me ... more to come. Jan 21 06 08:06 am Link Louis Braga wrote: Well then that sounds like the model is just doing the shoot in trade for a vacation - LOL! Jan 21 06 08:12 am Link It depends on the value from the session. I've had models travel from another state to shoot TFP and I have traveled to other states to do TFP. I evaluate it on a shoot by shoot basis as do most of the models I have worked with. And, although not asked for, I have kicked in for gas money at times as well as offered the model my guest room for her overnight stay. Again it all depends on value of the TFP shoot. 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