Ransom J wrote:
because men and most women like bewbs.  or ass. or both.

and I stand with camera in hand to capture them.

Then why pictures? Why not the actual "bewbs.  or ass. or both" ?

W.G. Rowland wrote:
Clothes cost money. I spent all mine on camera gear and cheap lights..

This is my excuse, too.  Except I spent all of my money on tofu and Halloween decorations..

W.G. Rowland wrote:
Clothes cost money. I spent all mine on camera gear and cheap lights..

I thought it's all about nude models... Do you whip-round to buy all that need staff ?

TroisCouleurs wrote:

Then why pictures? Why not the actual "bewbs.  or ass. or both" ) ?

same reason fashion photographers shoot the clothes on the model instead of just sending out samples for people the wear in a pretty vogue package.

ChristianBehr wrote:
Well... because boobs, who-who's and bums are like " Beggin Strips " for men.  Did you see that commercial with the dog?  That's men.

Are you drinking again?

TroisCouleurs wrote:

I thought it's all about nude models... Do you whip-round to buy all that need staff ?

Look at my port..

I make women take their clothes off so I can shoot headshots of them..

The Infamous Lapis wrote:

Are you drinking again?

No... did you read my deep thought?  I think both are accurate... and there's nothing fogging my brain this evening.

ChristianBehr wrote:
Deep Thought:

A nude figure is a person most "disarmed."  It's honest.  No hiding this or that - it's as real as one can get.  The physical manifestation of a person's soul.  I think people like to see nude - due to visual association.  When we see nude people in real life - they're giving themselves in the purest form to us.  So like Pavlov's dog...

Whew... that was too deep for me.

there you are wrong my friend...I've never seen more conscious women (so far) before. they are absolutely not disarmed and professional hiders...its honest, and beautiful but not as you describe

TroisCouleurs wrote:
Just got 2 polar opinions on the subject ...

Opinion 1:
Because female beauty is first of all in sexuality, in the beauty of the female body ...

Opinion 2:
Because there so many guys out there suffering from spermotoxicosis ...
Profit will be there forever

So where do you stand at as a photographer, model, stylist, publisher, etc.?

two polar opinions, bi-polar?

people look at faces before they meet someone, 'oh he looks cute, i think i'd like to meet him'


when you get close you get a waft of pheromones that seals the deal

mechanism behind this is mixing up the gene-pool, some folks are wired to stay in the group they were born into, some other folks roam.. but some guys at stanford found out that folks will look at a face and then put themselves in a position to check the chemistry

the phrase,

our chemistry is so right -it was love at first sight

is a pretty accurate

Koray wrote:

there you are wrong my friend...I've never seen more conscious women (so far) before. they are absolutely not disarmed and professional hiders...its honest, and beautiful but not as you describe

Well... what can I say?  I'm not known for shooting nudes - so I did my best to pull a deep though from where all my deep thoughts come from.  Now I guess I'll just wipe my thought center and go to bed.

Koray wrote:

there you are wrong my friend...I've never seen more conscious women (so far) before. they are absolutely not disarmed and professional hiders...its honest, and beautiful but not as you describe

I am with Christian on this one.  A model who is willing to shoot nude and trusts the photographer is often alive and open.  There's a special dance that can happen with the right chemistry.  It's exhilarating and free.

TroisCouleurs wrote:
Just got 2 polar opinions on the subject ...

Opinion 1:
Because female beauty is first of all in sexuality, in the beauty of the female body ...

Opinion 2:
Because there so many guys out there suffering from spermotoxicosis ...
Profit will be there forever

So where do you stand at as a photographer, model, stylist, publisher, etc.?

I don't really understand what you wrote in "Opinion 1."  I've read the sentence several times, and nothing has come of it.

I also wanted to clarify what you've hypothesized in "Opinion 2."  Are you suggesting that nudes are popular because there are lot of men suffering from a largely ficitonal medical condition, which, logically, if I'm up to speed here, would be caused by the nude photos rather than causing the nude photos themselves.

In either case, I find that most nudes are wholly contrived.  I rarely find them sexy, which is the basis of both of your conjectures, and more often than not it seems like an arbitrary condition that is neither necessary for the value of the photo itself or logical in any way, shape or form.

Moreover, your opinions presuppose that men, in general, are prone to tripping over their own tongues at the sight of a nude woman, and that women, in general, are sexy.  Neither are factual.  In fact, I think that most nude bodies look a bit silly.  Kudos to those who've gone ones that don't.

Aussie Guevara wrote:
Are you serious?

you must mean me, i'm always serious

lotusphoto wrote:

you must mean me, i'm always serious

Ok, Shirley.

The Infamous Lapis wrote:
the whole thing does not have to be about sex. Nudity is different than sexuality.

I'll never understand why we spend [ie: waste] so much time trying to divorce the human body from human sexuality.  The last time I looked, human sexuality was a pretty amazing and powerful form of energy.  Why do we always try to discount it in the name of "art"?

What do you think Michelangelo  was thinking about while he was sculpting David...baseball?

Ransom J wrote:
because men and most women like bewbs.  or ass. or both.
and I stand with camera in hand to capture them.

TroisCouleurs wrote:
Then why pictures? Why not the actual "bewbs.  or ass. or both" ?

Pictures are cheaper for most people to procure than actual bewbs
and are far easier to hide from their spouse or mother.

The Infamous Lapis wrote:
The nude body is beautiful, male or female. The way it reflects light, makes the poses clear, the whole thing does not have to be about sex. Nudity is different than sexuality. You can have a photo where both people are wearing clothes, the guys zipper is open, the girls hand is going in there, and he has his hand up her skirt...everything is implied, but sexual. Or you could have a nude laying on a beach or in the mountains or on the chair in a studio and it is much less sexual than the picture I described above. So, why nude? Because we were born that way, nude, and because there is a certain honesty to the bare body. Not that nudity cannot be erotic. I probably have some of the most erotic photos on mm, and I am nude, but nothing is shown explicitly. To me, what makes a photograph an erotic photograph is the way the model is 'acting' or not acting towards the camera. A sexual come hither look on a bathing suit model is more sexual than a bodyscape. The look on my face when I am in ecstacy says much more than explicit nudity.

Could not have said it better.

W.G. Rowland wrote:
Clothes cost money. I spent all mine on camera gear and cheap lights..

  Clothes!  (wink)  I'd rather just wear the accessories ...

W.G. Rowland wrote:

Look at my port..

I make women take their clothes off so I can shoot headshots of them..

HAHA!

TroisCouleurs wrote:

Then why pictures? Why not the actual "bewbs.  or ass. or both" ?

Have you ever heard the phrase, "Take a picture! It'll last longer!" 

That's especially true of bewbs and ass.   

-- rick

Melvin Moten Jr wrote:

I'll never understand why we spend [ie: waste] so much time trying to divorce the human body from human sexuality.  The last time I looked, human sexuality was a pretty amazing and powerful form of energy.  Why do we always try to discount it in the name of "art"?

What do you think Michelangelo  was thinking about while he was sculpting David...baseball?

ain't nothing wrong with sexuality.  i am all about it, whether clothed or des'habille.  but no, i dont think michaelangelo was thinking about sex while sculpting David.  the thing probably took him the better part of a year, and he was probably thinking about accuracy, form, texture, and the rigatoni he was going to have for supper during a lot of it.

Wynd Mulysa wrote:

This is my excuse, too.  Except I spent all of my money on tofu and Halloween decorations..

Well, at least you've got the Tofu to eat and if any trick or treaters asked why you answered the door nude you could have just told them you are dressed as Eve and waiting for Adam to come back

Melvin Moten Jr wrote:
I'll never understand why we spend [ie: waste] so much time trying to divorce the human body from human sexuality.  The last time I looked, human sexuality was a pretty amazing and powerful form of energy.  Why do we always try to discount it in the name of "art"?

What do you think Michelangelo  was thinking about while he was sculpting David...baseball?

MadamePsychosis wrote:
ain't nothing wrong with sexuality.  i am all about it, whether clothed or des'habille.  but no, i dont think michaelangelo was thinking about sex while sculpting David.  the thing probably took him the better part of a year, and he was probably thinking about accuracy, form, texture, and the rigatoni he was going to have for supper during a lot of it.

What are you?  His press agent?