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What makes it art?
...the fact that you call it that as the creator of the image or when it's deemed as such by someone else? Who judges, really? You? Someone else? Need the judge have some sort of artistic qualification? Must the judge be an artist to deem something art? What's the determining factor in the decision? The look? The intent? The method? Your post count? The fact that it's nude and/or B&W? Alternatively, what makes one an artist? Self-proclimation? Choosing to shoot in B&W? Your creative methods? Your style? Must you have a style? Thoughts? Oct 26 06 08:21 pm Link After much research and online debate.. I've come to the following conclusion: Don't know. Don't care. Oct 26 06 08:29 pm Link W.G., I believe that is the answer to the question 'what is the difference between ignorance and apathy'. that being said, it is art if I think it is. So if you have any questions, just ask me. Oct 26 06 08:31 pm Link art is the marriage of a particular kind of ATTENTION to a vehicle of transference of that particular kind of attention... That attention includes things like the miriad workings of a craft (both photographers, as well as poest, mimes etc.. have CRAFT skills which should be developed... BUT art is NOT the craft... it's what DRIVES the craft...) For better ansers to this question, please google the rest of your life. The Artist Formaly known as Noah Oct 26 06 08:38 pm Link I don't mind the debates.. In fact I enjoy the debates.. But I'm tired of caring enough to let it get in the way of me learning.. The semantics of what we're doing only matter if I'm trying to convince you I'm doing something special.. I'm trying to convince myself and all this blather gets in the way. You all have fun.. I've got pictures to work on.. Oct 26 06 08:39 pm Link I could list some of the qualities that get most people (gallery owners and the like) to consider a photographer's work "art" but I'm going to sound insulting. (If there is any market more seriously closed-minded and set in its ways and extremely snobbish about the look or style of anything else than the fashion market, it's definitely the fine art market.) Oct 26 06 08:42 pm Link Before this takes a wrong turn in Albuquerque, I want make this clear: I DO NOT ask these questions because I don't already have my own answers. Rather, I'm interested in knowing what you think. Or not. Gags and one liners are to be expected (and are always appreciated)... Oct 26 06 08:43 pm Link this is a question that i really wish would be done away with.......i mean, i know why you're asking.......lots of people do......but i just don't think its a valid distinction - art/not-art.......its all art if somebody is willing to say it..........its slightly more useful to ask if its good art or bad art.....and while i wish more people were willing to make a stand on that, its still a problematic way to look at things............what i generally try to do is ask myself if its art that's worth my time or not.......it might be crap, but i could still learn something from it...i could still love it.........or it could be work that's a product of incredible skill, but i find that it bores me to death and if anybody asks this "what makes it art" question as a kind of shorthand for "will my work be taken seriously"......don't worry......we operate in a "pluralistic" art world.......if you make it, there's an audience for it.....just a matter of finding the people that want to see your work Oct 26 06 08:47 pm Link Marko Cecic-Karuzic wrote: Marco - there are always OTHER galleries... Oct 26 06 08:49 pm Link W.G. Rowland wrote: Truth. Oct 26 06 08:49 pm Link "ART IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER"... I have no idea who said it. So I thought I'd put it in quotations anyway... Perc Oct 26 06 08:50 pm Link I'll go with Krista's answer. It's art if she says it is. Or at least I'll go look again to see if I can find what she's seeing that I missed. There are a few others here who can get my attention that way as well. And I'll concede that something's probably art if the New York Times says it is. Or if any of a dozen galleries or museums show it. Or if it's featured as art in any of three photo magazines or a half dozen art magazines. -Don Oct 26 06 09:25 pm Link Art is an expression of a thought , action , idea or feeling ... There doesnt need to be an ability , or talent involved ... If you can convey a message through a medium , you are an artist ... If other people understand your message , youre a good artist .... this is my deffinition ... Oct 26 06 09:32 pm Link sorry Oct 26 06 09:34 pm Link sorry double post ... Oct 26 06 09:34 pm Link What makes it art? Easy. It is deemed so by the creator who is an artist? WHat makes an artist? Easy. It is a person who creates with the intention of creating art? Art, in this context, is a visual work that attempts to present a question, comment, or point of view in the form of an image. Now...what makes GOOD art? What makes WORTHY art? What makes MEANINGFUL art? Things get tricky and sticky pretty quickly. Oct 27 06 12:24 am Link - if somebody else other than the creator likes it, its art. - if everybody likes it its art. - if nobody likes it but shows a reaction to it its art. - if noone sees it its art. - if its black and white its art. - if its a little unusual its art. - pure white aka blank canvas is art. - people you see everyday is art. thats why its so much fun. Oct 27 06 12:34 am Link We've been over this a few times and have never found an answer we could agree on. To me, it's like pornography, I can't tell you what it is, but I know it when I see it. Then again, you might not agree with me. Oct 27 06 01:15 am Link Art is determined either by the intent of the creator, or the perception of the viewer. The value of art is placed on its ability to move someone, to illicit some deep emotive response. Artists are rarely self defined, very few people will claim to be an artist unless they have been told by people who have viewed their work that they are artists. Oct 27 06 07:41 am Link *bump* for unrelated reasons. Oct 27 06 09:28 am Link Jay Bowman wrote: I think it's like what's been said about porn, "You know it when you see it." And just like porn, it's subject to interpretation. Oct 27 06 12:40 pm Link Picasso. "...taste is the enemy of art." Stop judging, start enjoying. Live, Love, Laugh and be Happy. Oct 27 06 12:43 pm Link Yerkes Photography wrote: Even if it is an elephant holding a paintbrush? Oct 27 06 01:27 pm Link Doug Sampson wrote: if the elephant is capable of conveying a message ... yes Oct 27 06 02:47 pm Link passion is what makes an image art, if it implores or evokes passion it is a work of art and to the degree of passion is followed by the degree of quality of art, thus a masterpiece should make you tremble Oct 27 06 05:42 pm Link Webspinner wrote: You know, after reading through all the answers and thinking about it [at least for the time it took the kettle to boil] I have to say that I don't care anymore either. My personal take is that "art" is one of those words like "friendship," "pornography," "morality," or "family" -- words that have been so thoroughly irradiated with postmodern media cynicism that they no longer hold any meaning at all...So they can mean whatever you want. Oct 27 06 06:33 pm Link |
