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Rp-photo
Posts: 42711
Houston, Texas, US
One model I shot with flashed what looked like 1960's peace signs to this 47 year-old. I am sure they were probably some type of gang symbols. I have seen others do it in some of their portfolio images.
Is this something I should worry about, or is it just trendy? Could others that see the images possibly be offended?
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La Seine by the Hudson
Posts: 8587
New York, New York, US
I'm sure SOMEBODY thinks this is hot... *rolling eyes*
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Webspinner Studios
Posts: 6964
Ann Arbor, Michigan, US
Yeah, all the guys in nightclubs I photograph.
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photosbydmp
Posts: 3808
Shepparton-Mooroopna, Victoria, Australia
shaking my head, its kinda like the face shrapnel, trendy but bs.
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e-string
Posts: 24002
Kansas City, Missouri, US
Maybe it was the rock 'n' roll "horns".
Or maybe it was the shocker. lol
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Farenell Photography
Posts: 18832
Albany, New York, US
e-string wrote:
Maybe it was the rock 'n' roll "horns". ![https://redawg.myweb.uga.edu/images/coolspidey.jpg]()
I knew there was a reason why Spiderman was cool.
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Garry k
Posts: 30131
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
rp_photo wrote:
One model I shot with flashed what looked like 1960's peace signs to this 47 year-old. I am sure they were probably some type of gang symbols. I have seen others do it in some of their portfolio images.
Is this something I should worry about, or is it just trendy? Could others that see the images possibly be offended? Yeah , what happens if you have a multi model shoot with girls from the East Side, the West Side , the North Side , and the South SIde ( and maybe even the Wrong Side ) and they all start flashing their signs ...Could be trouble !
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ChristianBehr
Posts: 551
Miami Beach, Florida, US
It's simple - let them know you don't put up with that bullshit.
Once = Warning
Twice = Bye Bye
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Farenell Photography
Posts: 18832
Albany, New York, US
rp_photo wrote:
One model I shot with flashed what looked like 1960's peace signs to this 47 year-old. I am sure they were probably some type of gang symbols. I have seen others do it in some of their portfolio images.
Is this something I should worry about, or is it just trendy? Could others that see the images possibly be offended? I wouldn't worry about it. The "Peace" sign has been around a lot longer than the 60's & can be used in different connonations. Churchill used it to mean "Victory."
![https://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38358000/jpg/_38358057_churchill_victory.jpg]()
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Dudley Watson
Posts: 1737
Roseburg, Oregon, US
rp_photo wrote:
One model I shot with flashed what looked like 1960's peace signs to this 47 year-old. I am sure they were probably some type of gang symbols. I have seen others do it in some of their portfolio images.
Is this something I should worry about, or is it just trendy? Could others that see the images possibly be offended? Er, who is in charge here? You or the model? Simply ask her "What are you doing?"
If you don't like it, tell her! Let her know if she keeps it up, she is wasting your time, and stop the session. Give her only photos that are not "hand signed". If she never works with you again, what have you lost?
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mariecherie
Posts: 45
New York, New York, US
i think your a bit paranoid!!! let me guess after she threw up her signs there was a drive by??? LOL!! are u serious????
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mariecherie
Posts: 45
New York, New York, US
i think your a bit paranoid!!! let me guess after she threw up her signs there was a drive by??? LOL!! are u serious????
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Doug Lester
Posts: 10591
Atlanta, Georgia, US
OK, I give up. Why was the model doing something the photographer didn't direct her to do? Was the model of the photographer in charge of the shoot? Unless a model is paying me, then there wil be no 'gang signs' unless I direct them.
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FosbreStudios
Posts: 3607
Medford, New Jersey, US
And then that dreaded gangsta lip pucker comes in... .LOL....oh they look dumb! LOL!
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Sean Abel Photography
Posts: 318
Newburgh, New York, US
being a cop and a photographer I do not know of the peace sign as being any gang sign.
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Claire Elizabeth
Posts: 1550
Exton, Pennsylvania, US
Ah yes, another weird fad............kinda like the caution tape lol.
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Miles Chandler
Posts: 647
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Oh, for Crom's sake.. your model is not in a gang with a 47 year-old. Why didn't you just ASK her about it? It was a peace sign, or the finger, or L-for-Loser, or read-between-the-lines or some local variant her friends made up with her that nobody else knows. She waved it at the old guy because she felt he was staring at her while she was trying to model. It was the "fuck off, you're too old to look at me that way" response most teenage girls give to older ("ugly") guys they think are checking them out.
That's all:-)
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Boho Hobo
Posts: 25351
Santa Barbara, California, US
Doug Lester wrote:
OK, I give up. Why was the model doing something the photographer didn't direct her to do? Was the model of the photographer in charge of the shoot? Unless a model is paying me, then there wil be no 'gang signs' unless I direct them. You know, I was wondering about this....and maybe it's just that I'm a control freak, or maybe I'm old school without having gone to school, but do people just throw models in front of their camera and just say "hit it baby?" and whatever comes out is just a matter of luck?
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oldguysrule
Posts: 6129
rp_photo wrote:
One model I shot with flashed what looked like 1960's peace signs to this 47 year-old. I am sure they were probably some type of gang symbols. I have seen others do it in some of their portfolio images.
Is this something I should worry about, or is it just trendy? Could others that see the images possibly be offended? and you shot this model why?
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Michael Donovan
Posts: 1678
Chicago, Illinois, US
Peace sign: Index and middle finger
[Promotes peace] (Popular among the world)
Shocker: Thumb, Index, middle, and pinky finger extended
[Promotes two in the pink, one in the stink] (popular among sexually liberated youth)
The Bird: Middle finger *occasionaly the thumb is extended, sometimes retracted
SUFI: Middle finger and ring finger
[Super Fuck you] (Popular among Dane Cook Fans)
West Side: Pinky, middle and ring finger intertwined, index finger extended with fingers point toward the sky
[Was once a gang sign, now it denotes the place you call home](Popular among Californians, Washingtonians, Oregonians, and occasioanl Arizona and Idaho peeps)
East Side: Same as West Side, but with right hand pointed at the chest
[Similar to the West Side, but make sthe people on the East side much happier](Popular amonth New England people)
The MidWest: Two hands are used. Both use the West Coast symbol, but the bottim hand reches up and the middle points down
[Represents people from the MidWest, or MidCoast as some people refer to](Oddly, Yuppies use this a lot when we're having our chicken verde with bacon wrapped shrimp and drinking some Union Cherry)
The Trekkie: Pinky and ring touching and spread away from teh index and middle finger which are connected
[Live Longe and Prosper](Popular among trekkies)
Thumbs up.... do I have to explain?!
ANyway, I doubt they were throwing signs. We have gangs in Chicago, but they really are not looking to pay to have their pictures taken... in fact they tend to shy away from cameras!!!
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Miles Chandler
Posts: 647
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
okay, am I the only one who started trying some of those out while reading the above post?
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JazzyBelle
Posts: 101
Greenville, South Carolina, US
KM von Seidl wrote:
You know, I was wondering about this....and maybe it's just that I'm a control freak, or maybe I'm old school without having gone to school, but do people just throw models in front of their camera and just say "hit it baby?" and whatever comes out is just a matter of luck? I wouldn't ever do gang signs...(I don't think that's attractive)...but, yes...every photographer I've worked with (unless they needed to do a shot twice or specifically had something they were looking for) told me to free style it...I like being posed (sometimes) because it lets me know the photographer knows or is getting what he is looking for...but I also like photographers that don't mind the 'freestyle' thing...kinda lets me know they trust my creativity...
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Torrence Williams
Posts: 247
Dallas, Texas, US
rp_photo wrote:
One model I shot with flashed what looked like 1960's peace signs to this 47 year-old. I am sure they were probably some type of gang symbols. I have seen others do it in some of their portfolio images.
Is this something I should worry about, or is it just trendy? Could others that see the images possibly be offended? You have GOT to be kidding....
Why woul dyou automatically ASSUME that it was a gang sign?
If she was doing whatever to the 47yr old.. It definitely was not a gang sign. If what she did resembled the Peace sign, then what she was probably doing was "speaking" to the person, by what is termed as "shooting the deuces" or "two fingers, swinging"...Harmless...
NOW my question to you is, What ethnicity was this model, the reason you thought what you did? and should WE be worried about you????
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MinkyBlink
Posts: 1
Los Angeles, California, US
On a TFP I don't care if they pick their nose or scratch their arse, its all about expression and after all 'art is so subjective'.
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Boho Hobo
Posts: 25351
Santa Barbara, California, US
Minkyblink wrote:
On a TFP I don't care if they pick their nose or scratch their arse, its all about expression and after all 'art is so subjective'. what a wry sense of humour you have.
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Mortonovich
Posts: 6209
San Diego, California, US
rp_photo wrote:
One model I shot with flashed what looked like 1960's peace signs to this 47 year-old. I am sure they were probably some type of gang symbols. I have seen others do it in some of their portfolio images.
Is this something I should worry about, or is it just trendy? Could others that see the images possibly be offended? By the way, those sorts of people, unless they are hearing impaired, are referred to as booger flickers.
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Reverend D-Ray
Posts: 67
Richmond, Virginia, US
Miles Chandler wrote:
okay, am I the only one who started trying some of those out while reading the above post? Nope.
But seriously, I doubt from what you say it was a gang sign. And my question is.....Did she do it a lot of pictures or just one? I see models do silly stuff like that and it never crosses my mind. If it fits the shoot, great, if it doesn't I just don't print it. Holy cow what a simple idea. I guess with a simple mind comes simple ideas.
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Hadyn Lassiter
Posts: 2898
New Haven, Connecticut, US
Look there goes a chicken!!-?
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markEdwardPhoto
Posts: 1398
Trumbull, Connecticut, US
rp_photo wrote:
One model I shot with flashed what looked like 1960's peace signs to this 47 year-old. I am sure they were probably some type of gang symbols. I have seen others do it in some of their portfolio images.
Is this something I should worry about, or is it just trendy? Could others that see the images possibly be offended? Maybe you are talking about the "Shocker" hand gesture !!! -)
It looks like the Peace Sign but it is different and with a whole different message.
M
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Adrienne Aurora
Posts: 2745
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Peace up A-town down. ![https://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e247/xoxoadrienne22/havana_sm.jpg]()
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wishingtree photography
Posts: 1042
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
Adrienne Aurora wrote:
Peace up A-town down.
![https://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e247/xoxoadrienne22/havana_sm.jpg]() hey this is giving me ideas for poses....
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Adrienne Aurora
Posts: 2745
Atlanta, Georgia, US
wishingtreephotography wrote:
hey this is giving me ideas for poses.... Welcome to the gun show baby.
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Wayne M Photography
Posts: 145
Virginia Beach, Virginia, US
rp_photo wrote:
One model I shot with flashed what looked like 1960's peace signs to this 47 year-old. I am sure they were probably some type of gang symbols. I have seen others do it in some of their portfolio images.
Is this something I should worry about, or is it just trendy? Could others that see the images possibly be offended? Okay maybe I'm reading too much into this post. But I have a few questions.
1. How do you know the recipient of the peace sign was 47 years old? Did he come up and show you I.D.
Okay I only had that question but I read this post with the proverbial "Tongue in cheek" basically I thought the post was to be humorous. Maybe I read wrong. But if the OP is serious then again I question how he knew the age of the person?
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shotbytim
Posts: 1040
Baton Rouge, Louisiana, US
With the palm out, it's a peace or victory sign, with the back of the hand out, the US is the only place in the world where it's not considered the same as flipping the bird.
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Farenell Photography
Posts: 18832
Albany, New York, US
Miles Chandler wrote:
okay, am I the only one who started trying some of those out while reading the above post? Nope. 
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Farenell Photography
Posts: 18832
Albany, New York, US
Wayne M. wrote:
Okay I only had that question but I read this post with the proverbial "Tongue in cheek" basically I thought the post was to be humorous. Maybe I read wrong. But if the OP is serious then again I question how he knew the age of the person? One model I shot with flashed what looked like 1960's peace signs to this 47 year-old.
The OP was referring to himself. I'm presuming he knows how old he is.
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mariecherie
Posts: 45
New York, New York, US
hey to settle the whole gang sign issue POST THE DAMN picture!!!!! i know plenty gang members being that i grew up in the inner city and what u are describing doesn't sound like a gang sign. so please do us a big facor and put up the pic. i'll definitely let u know what SET she's claiming(gang talk!!! lol!).
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Doug Harvey
Posts: 1055
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Garry k wrote:
Yeah , what happens if you have a multi model shoot with girls from the East Side, the West Side , the North Side , and the South SIde ( and maybe even the Wrong Side ) and they all start flashing their signs ...Could be trouble ! But never let the ones from the good side come to the shoot...
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Rich Davis
Posts: 3136
Gulf Breeze, Florida, US
Michael Donovan wrote:
Peace sign: Index and middle finger
[Promotes peace] (Popular among the world)
Shocker: Thumb, Index, middle, and pinky finger extended
[Promotes two in the pink, one in the stink] (popular among sexually liberated youth)
The Bird: Middle finger *occasionaly the thumb is extended, sometimes retracted
SUFI: Middle finger and ring finger
[Super Fuck you] (Popular among Dane Cook Fans)
West Side: Pinky, middle and ring finger intertwined, index finger extended with fingers point toward the sky
[Was once a gang sign, now it denotes the place you call home](Popular among Californians, Washingtonians, Oregonians, and occasioanl Arizona and Idaho peeps)
East Side: Same as West Side, but with right hand pointed at the chest
[Similar to the West Side, but make sthe people on the East side much happier](Popular amonth New England people)
The MidWest: Two hands are used. Both use the West Coast symbol, but the bottim hand reches up and the middle points down
[Represents people from the MidWest, or MidCoast as some people refer to](Oddly, Yuppies use this a lot when we're having our chicken verde with bacon wrapped shrimp and drinking some Union Cherry)
The Trekkie: Pinky and ring touching and spread away from teh index and middle finger which are connected
[Live Longe and Prosper](Popular among trekkies)
Thumbs up.... do I have to explain?!
ANyway, I doubt they were throwing signs. We have gangs in Chicago, but they really are not looking to pay to have their pictures taken... in fact they tend to shy away from cameras!!! It's interesting to see how the signs have changed since my youth.
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